Re: [python-committers] Changing commiter status

2018-06-19 Thread Brett Cannon
On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 at 12:41 M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 18.06.2018 21:07, Guido van Rossum wrote: > > Hm, unless I misunderstood, MAL's > > > >> Being a core developer of Python is a status > > > > suggests that core devs might want to keep this status since it confers > > "status" on their person

Re: [python-committers] Changing commiter status

2018-06-19 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 10:12 PM Tal Einat wrote: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:54 AM, Guido van Rossum > wrote: > > > > If we currently have a list of core devs we should by default change > people's status to emeritus core dev when they choose (c). They may also > choose to be removed from such

Re: [python-committers] Changing commiter status

2018-06-19 Thread Victor Stinner
2018-06-19 2:54 GMT+02:00 Guido van Rossum : > I'd do it as follows. This basically makes withdrawal voluntary unless they > don't respond at all. > > 1. Make a list of people who've not shown any sign of activity (on the > b.p.o. or GitHub, as reviewer or committer) for at least one year. > 2. Ema

Re: [python-committers] Changing commiter status

2018-06-19 Thread Donald Stufft
> On Jun 19, 2018, at 1:35 PM, Victor Stinner wrote: > > My intent is to maintain a list of active core developers. If an > inactive core dev becomes active again, they should be able to > retrieve quickly the "active" status. Is "emeritus" still a good name > with such constraint? Yes. Dropp

[python-committers] Results of Pablo's promotion votes: Pablo is promoted as a core dev!

2018-06-19 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, The result of the vote to to promote Pablo Salingo Salgado as core developer after one week is positive: I declare that Pablo is now a core developer, congrats! I will follow the usual process to actually make him a core dev, and ask him to write a short introduction email to this list. But I

Re: [python-committers] Changing commiter status

2018-06-19 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 19.06.2018 18:39, Brett Cannon wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 at 12:41 M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > >> On 18.06.2018 21:07, Guido van Rossum wrote: >>> Hm, unless I misunderstood, MAL's >>> Being a core developer of Python is a status >>> >>> suggests that core devs might want to keep this status

Re: [python-committers] Changing commiter status

2018-06-19 Thread Brett Cannon
On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 at 17:56 Guido van Rossum wrote: > I'd do it as follows. This basically makes withdrawal voluntary unless > they don't respond at all. > > 1. Make a list of people who've not shown any sign of activity (on the > b.p.o. or GitHub, as reviewer or committer) for at least one year

Re: [python-committers] Changing commiter status

2018-06-19 Thread Guido van Rossum
I honestly have very little stake in this -- the minimum that I'd like to see is that unused GitHub permissions be revoked to reduce the risk when a dormant core dev is compromised. (Though if they contribute regularly to *other* GitHub projects even that risk seems minimal.) On Tue, Jun 19, 2018

Re: [python-committers] Changing commiter status

2018-06-19 Thread Ethan Furman
On 06/19/2018 11:17 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 at 17:56 Guido van Rossum wrote: I'd do it as follows. This basically makes withdrawal voluntary unless >> they don't respond at all. 1. Make a list of people who've not shown any sign of activity (on the >> b.p.o. or GitHub,

Re: [python-committers] Results of Pablo's promotion votes: Pablo ispromoted as a core dev!

2018-06-19 Thread Steve Dower
Not trying to dispute the result (I’d have posted earlier if I was really concerned), but it sounds like you’ve signed up to mentor someone for three months. Under normal circumstances, the commit bit comes at the end of mentorship, not at the start. Should we promote other mentees as well? I k

Re: [python-committers] Changing commiter status

2018-06-19 Thread Guido van Rossum
I'm happy to see you do this. It'll be very interesting what kind of responses you get. Do you know how to get the list of 130 people? (I don't, but Mariatta probably has it already.) On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:51 PM Ethan Furman wrote: > On 06/19/2018 11:17 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > On Mon, 1

Re: [python-committers] Results of Pablo's promotion votes: Pablo ispromoted as a core dev!

2018-06-19 Thread Guido van Rossum
I think we should give the mentors a choice in this. Victor has chosen to do it this way for Pablo. I don't know who (if anyone) is mentoring Cheryl. I think Eric Snow is mentoring Emily (I am too, but my mentoring is not very hands-on, and we only chat once every 3 weeks at most.) On Tue, Jun 19,

Re: [python-committers] Changing commiter status

2018-06-19 Thread Ethan Furman
On 06/19/2018 11:14 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Ok, let me be even clearer :-) While I understand that there is a need to show the world that we need more active core devs, this drive to shelve existing developers is not a good way to achieve this. Here's a simple approach which is effective with

Re: [python-committers] Changing commiter status

2018-06-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 19/06/2018 à 22:26, Ethan Furman a écrit : > On 06/19/2018 11:14 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > >> Ok, let me be even clearer :-) >> >> While I understand that there is a need to show the world that >> we need more active core devs, this drive to shelve existing >> developers is not a good way to

Re: [python-committers] Results of Pablo's promotion votes: Pablo is promoted as a core dev!

2018-06-19 Thread Victor Stinner
> it sounds like you’ve signed up to mentor someone for three months. Under normal circumstances, the commit bit comes at the end of mentorship, not at the start. I am already mentoring him since January, it's not a start. I recall that I was scared of doing anything when I became a core dev. An

Re: [python-committers] Changing commiter status

2018-06-19 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 at 13:16 Guido van Rossum wrote: > I'm happy to see you do this. It'll be very interesting what kind of > responses you get. Do you know how to get the list of 130 people? (I don't, > but Mariatta probably has it already.) > WFM! Thanks, Ethan! I guess the first step is to g