Le 14/05/2021 à 02:25, Senthil Kumaran a écrit :
On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 04:53:08PM -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
I’ve found Gitter works well. I’d use that, assuming it was only open to core
devs and invitees.
Thanks! I interpret this as
a) Yes to a need for chat-service for core-dev.
b) A
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 09:03:05AM +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> Well, the more you create chat services for a single purpose, the less
> you're likely to actually find a community there. Why do you want to use
> Gitter if Zulip and IRC already exist?
The goal is not the tool, but the community
Le 14/05/2021 à 09:26, Senthil Kumaran a écrit :
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 09:03:05AM +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Well, the more you create chat services for a single purpose, the less
you're likely to actually find a community there. Why do you want to use
Gitter if Zulip and IRC already exist
Hi,
I'm always connected to IRC #python-dev (Freenode) for 10 years, a few
other core devs use it time to time. Come to say hello ;-)
The bugs.python.org and buildbot notifications are useful to me and I
don't feel annoyed by them. But GitHub review are hard to use: only
the user name and the PR
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 09:36:52AM +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> #python-dev on IRC has been wildly successful until perhaps 2015.
> Personally, I would have no problem using IRC if wanted to connect to a chat
> for CPython at all.
I know, it was useful, and #python is still. The bot, github, bui
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 12:28:00PM +0200, Victor Stinner wrote:
>
> The bugs.python.org and buildbot notifications are useful to me and I
> don't feel annoyed by them. But GitHub review are hard to use: only
> the user name and the PR number are given: PR title and comment
> content are not provid
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 6:48 AM Senthil Kumaran wrote:
> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 09:36:52AM +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> > #python-dev on IRC has been wildly successful until perhaps 2015.
> > Personally, I would have no problem using IRC if wanted to connect to a
> chat
> > for CPython at all.
I'm hesitant to start yet another communication channel without considering
all the maintenance work that it entails.
It's not just about "let's spin up the server" but we should think about
who will moderate and administer it.
Since we have tried various platforms in the past, and some just didn't
For CPython, I’ve been present on IRC and Zulip and Slack and Discord (and
would prefer them in the reverse of that order).
I’ve used Gitter for CherryPy and Setuptools and Xonsh, but found the interface
kinda meh compared to Slack and Discord.
Would be delighted if there was a preferred platfo
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 11:07:12AM -0700, Brett Cannon wrote:
> You could launch a poll on discuss.python.org and see if there's a clear
> winner.
Yes, after hearing some opinions, I plan to do that. Right now, I guess
the choices I am thinking are
- No, I am not interested in Chat.
- Focus on #
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 11:28:48AM -0700, Mariatta wrote:
> I hope we can properly evaluate how the next chosen chatting platform
> can be used more effectively.
I agree. The proposal is like choice of Github. We don't self-host, but
if identify something that will work for us (provided there is
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 06:30:33PM +, Jason R. Coombs wrote:
> Would be delighted if there was a preferred platform for chat and that
> platform
> be documented (and allowed to change as solutions and the community evolves).
This resonates well with me. Especially as I use _ these chat platfo
On 14.05.2021 20:50, Senthil Kumaran wrote:
> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 11:07:12AM -0700, Brett Cannon wrote:
>
>> You could launch a poll on discuss.python.org and see if there's a clear
>> winner.
>
> Yes, after hearing some opinions, I plan to do that. Right now, I guess
> the choices I am think
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 09:21:14PM +0200, Marc-Andre Lemburg wrote:
> Wouldn't it make more sense to run a matrix.org server which then
> connects and bridges across all those channels ?
>
> https://matrix.org/bridges/
>
> People could then continue to use their preferred platform,
> without losi
Le 14/05/2021 à 21:40, Senthil Kumaran a écrit :
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 09:21:14PM +0200, Marc-Andre Lemburg wrote:
Wouldn't it make more sense to run a matrix.org server which then
connects and bridges across all those channels ?
https://matrix.org/bridges/
People could then continue to use
On Fri, 14 May 2021 at 19:51, Senthil Kumaran wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 11:07:12AM -0700, Brett Cannon wrote:
>
> > You could launch a poll on discuss.python.org and see if there's a clear
> > winner.
>
> Yes, after hearing some opinions, I plan to do that. Right now, I guess
> the choice
On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 08:53:13PM +0100, Paul Moore wrote:
> The problem with this, I think, is that my choice would be
>
> * Whichever one people actually used
That's self-referencing, and unsolvable.
> In other words, this isn't a technology problem, it's a people
> problem.
Both. I didn't
On Fri, 14 May 2021 at 21:18, Senthil Kumaran wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 08:53:13PM +0100, Paul Moore wrote:
> > The problem with this, I think, is that my choice would be
> >
> > * Whichever one people actually used
>
> That's self-referencing, and unsolvable.
It is, but it's true nevert
On Sat, 15 May 2021, 6:35 am Paul Moore, wrote:
> On Fri, 14 May 2021 at 21:18, Senthil Kumaran wrote:
>
> > > In other words, this isn't a technology problem, it's a people
> > > problem.
> >
> > Both. I didn't suggest this is technology problem. We, have to
> > choose one as per majority conve
Believe it or not, there are people who are not familiar with the IRC
culture.
And those people are who enter the opensource culture after the 2010s.
That period coincides with the growth of GitHub.
So I'm also a supporter of new communication tools.
Here the list below is my consideration.
a) Ar
On 5/14/21 3:28 AM, Victor Stinner wrote:
> I'm always connected to IRC #python-dev (Freenode) for 10 years, a few
> other core devs use it time to time. Come to say hello ;-)
I've tried the IRC channel -- way too much noise. Talking to bots is not my
idea of a python dev chat.
My impression
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