Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Aahz wrote: >>>Host pythondev >>> Hostname dinsdale.python.org >>> User pythondev >>> IdentityFile ~/.ssh/pythondev >>> >>I'm confused again; are you saying that we should have a host named >>pythondev.python.org? I'm not sure that's necessary. > > > No, pythondev is simply an SSH alias for d

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Barry Warsaw wrote: > I may be totally misunderstanding, but to get shell access wouldn't I > avoid using the pythondev account and just use my own account? You could do that (or use the root account); I can't: I don't have a ssh account on dinsdale. An even if I had, I couldn't write to pythondev

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-21 Thread Aahz
On Sun, Aug 21, 2005, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 09:12, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: >> >> I would suggest that the default key is used for regular commits, >> and a separate key is created for shell access. I described this >> a bit in the PEP, essentially, in .ssh/config, I have >>

Re: [Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 09:12, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > It turns out that svn+ssh with a single account has limitations: > you can only set the tunnel user when you are using a restricted > key. In PEP 347, the plan is that the current SF project admins > get shell access to the pythondev account,

Re: [Python-Dev] Deprecating builtin id (and moving it to sys())

2005-08-21 Thread skip
Guido> The built-in namespace is searched last for a reason -- the Guido> design is such that if you don't care for a particular built-in Guido> you don't need to know about it. In my mind there are three classes of builtins from the standpoint of overriding. Pychecker complains if y

Re: [Python-Dev] Collecting SSH keys

2005-08-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Sjoerd Mullender wrote: > What about people with a whole host of ssh keys? I have a different key > for each system I use (currently at least 6). Will this be supported? > Will the different keys identify the same person? That would be possible, yes. You should send a single file containing all

Re: [Python-Dev] Collecting SSH keys

2005-08-21 Thread Sjoerd Mullender
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > I have setup a test installation on svn.python.org, so that > developers can see how this would work. > > So if you are currently a sf.net/projects/python developer, > please send me your SSH key before August 27 or after > September 12. We will use real names for commit m

[Python-Dev] Collecting SSH keys

2005-08-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I have setup a test installation on svn.python.org, so that developers can see how this would work. So if you are currently a sf.net/projects/python developer, please send me your SSH key before August 27 or after September 12. We will use real names for commit messages, so if you have specific pr

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 347: Migration to Subversion

2005-08-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Guido van Rossum wrote: > On the hosting issue, I'm still neutral -- I expect we'll be able to > support the current developer crowd easily on svn.python.org, but if > we ever find ther are resource problems (either people or bandwidth > etc.) I just received a recommendation for wush.net which spe

[Python-Dev] wush.net details

2005-08-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I made a service request at wush.net, asking for more details about their service. There was a first response within 6 hours, asking for more time to prepare an answer. I said I don't need one urgently, and, with apologies, got a response one week later. I added the essence to the PEP; namely: - T

[Python-Dev] Admin access using svn+ssh

2005-08-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
It turns out that svn+ssh with a single account has limitations: you can only set the tunnel user when you are using a restricted key. In PEP 347, the plan is that the current SF project admins get shell access to the pythondev account, which just has been created. To resolve this, project admins

Re: [Python-Dev] On decorators implementation

2005-08-21 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Paolino wrote: > I imagine that a method implementation of them inside the type metaclass > could be better specified by people. What you ask for is unimplementable. Method objects are created only when the method is accessed, not (even) when the class is created. Watch this: >>> class X: ... d

[Python-Dev] On decorators implementation

2005-08-21 Thread Paolino
I noticed (via using them) that decorations are applied to methods before they become methods. This choice flattens down the implementation to no differentiating methods from functions. 1) I have to apply euristics on the wrapped function type when I use the function as an index key.