Re: [Python-Dev] Expose Subversion revision number to Python

2005-12-20 Thread LD 'Gus' Landis
Hi, So, what does one get when built on a system not connected to the net? say from a tarball? It can happen, ya know. Cheers, --ldl On 12/18/05, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry Warsaw wrote: Yes, here's my thought: I have a mod to Makefile.pre.in and getbuildinfo.c

Re: [Python-Dev] Expose Subversion revision number to Python

2005-12-20 Thread Michael Hudson
LD 'Gus' Landis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, So, what does one get when built on a system not connected to the net? say from a tarball? Um, the two things you mention are unrelated. svnversion doesn't access the network, so the first thing is moot. For the second, we've talked about

Re: [Python-Dev] fixing log messages

2005-12-20 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Steve Holden wrote: That's embarrassing, by the way. You're obviously having a bad spelling day :-) I'd say that any spelling with more than 500,000 google hits is perfectly valid... /F ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

[Python-Dev] status of development documentation

2005-12-20 Thread Fredrik Lundh
the Documentation Development page at http://www.python.org/dev/doc/ contains a link to a SVN trunk version which was last updated nearly four months ago. what would it take to automatically update the trunk docs, say, once a day or so ? or is it time to move away from the current

Re: [Python-Dev] fixing log messages

2005-12-20 Thread Steve Holden
Fredrik Lundh wrote: Steve Holden wrote: That's embarrassing, by the way. You're obviously having a bad spelling day :-) I'd say that any spelling with more than 500,000 google hits is perfectly valid... Anything you say, Frederick ...

Re: [Python-Dev] Keep default comparisons - or add a second set?

2005-12-20 Thread Jim Fulton
Jim Jewett wrote: PEP 3000 now suggests that dropping default comparison has become more than an idle what-if. Unfortunately, one very common use case of comparisons is to get a canonical order. If the order is sensible, all the better, but that is not strictly required. One of Python's

Re: [Python-Dev] fixing log messages

2005-12-20 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Steve Holden wrote: I'd say that any spelling with more than 500,000 google hits is perfectly valid... Anything you say, Frederick ... thirteen-million-google-hits-can't-possibly-be-wrong-ly y'rs - steve oh, frederick is a perfectly valid english spelling of the germanic name Friedrich,

Re: [Python-Dev] fixing log messages

2005-12-20 Thread Steve Holden
Fredrik Lundh wrote: Steve Holden wrote: I'd say that any spelling with more than 500,000 google hits is perfectly valid... Anything you say, Frederick ... thirteen-million-google-hits-can't-possibly-be-wrong-ly y'rs - steve oh, frederick is a perfectly valid english spelling of the

Re: [Python-Dev] Keep default comparisons - or add a second set?

2005-12-20 Thread Michael Urman
On 12/19/05, Josiah Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Urman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Such as sorted(stuff, key=id)? I believe that ideally, canonical orderings would be persistant across sessions. Erm, yes, I totally missed that in Jim's original preferred requirements. And I nearly

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Re: [Python-Dev] Build failure and problem on Windows

2005-12-20 Thread Thomas Heller
Thomas Heller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Building the svn trunk on Windows fails because Python\pyarena.c is missing in the pythoncore.vcproj file (I'm not yet up to speed with svn, otherwise I would have checked in a fix for this myself). Worse, when running the built exe it segfaults in

[Python-Dev] Build failure and problem on Windows

2005-12-20 Thread Thomas Heller
Building the svn trunk on Windows fails because Python\pyarena.c is missing in the pythoncore.vcproj file (I'm not yet up to speed with svn, otherwise I would have checked in a fix for this myself). Worse, when running the built exe it segfaults in Py_GetBuildInfo(), because it is picking up

[Python-Dev] os.startfile with optional second parameter

2005-12-20 Thread Thomas Heller
Would a patch be accepted that implemented an optional second parameter for the os.startfile function on Windows? Sometimes I missed the possibility to write os.startfile(mydocs.pdf, print) Thomas ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

[Python-Dev] [OT] Fwd: a new python port: iPod

2005-12-20 Thread Neal Norwitz
I know this is OT, but I thought y'all might find this interesting. -- n -- Forwarded message -- From: jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I saw in http://www.python.org/download/download_other.html that people notify python ports to other platforms/devices. I

Re: [Python-Dev] Keep default comparisons - or add a second set?

2005-12-20 Thread Josiah Carlson
Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Jewett wrote: PEP 3000 now suggests that dropping default comparison has become more than an idle what-if. Unfortunately, one very common use case of comparisons is to get a canonical order. If the order is sensible, all the better, but that

Re: [Python-Dev] Keep default comparisons - or add a second set?

2005-12-20 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Josiah Carlson wrote: Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Jewett wrote: PEP 3000 now suggests that dropping default comparison has become more than an idle what-if. Unfortunately, one very common use case of comparisons is to get a canonical order. If the order is sensible, all the

[Python-Dev] Sets are mappings?

2005-12-20 Thread Aahz
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Josiah Carlson wrote: New superclasses for all built-in types (except for string and unicode, which already subclass from basestring). int, float, complex (long) : subclass from basenumber tuple, list, set : subclass from basesequence dict :

Re: [Python-Dev] Sets are mappings?

2005-12-20 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Aahz wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2005, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Josiah Carlson wrote: New superclasses for all built-in types (except for string and unicode, which already subclass from basestring). int, float, complex (long) : subclass from basenumber tuple, list, set : subclass from basesequence