Re: [Python-Dev] OT: How many other people got this spam?

2006-10-01 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Jack Jansen wrote: > I was wondering: how many other people who maintain websites (well: > "maintain" might be a bit of a misnomer in my case:-) related to > Python have also got this spam? probably everyone. I've gotten two copies, this far. __

Re: [Python-Dev] OT: How many other people got this spam?

2006-10-01 Thread Greg Ewing
Jack Jansen wrote: > I was wondering: how many other people who maintain websites (well: > "maintain" might be a bit of a misnomer in my case:-) related to > Python have also got this spam? I got it. I was rather amused that they claim to have been "looking for sites that would make good link

[Python-Dev] OT: How many other people got this spam?

2006-10-01 Thread Jack Jansen
I was wondering: how many other people who maintain websites (well: "maintain" might be a bit of a misnomer in my case:-) related to Python have also got this spam? Begin forwarded message: > From: "Snake Tracks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: October 1, 2006 21:21:45 GMT+02:00 > To: Cwi <[EMAIL

Re: [Python-Dev] difficulty of implementing phase 2 of PEP 302 in Python source

2006-10-01 Thread Armin Rigo
Hi Brett, On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 02:11:30PM -0700, Brett Cannon wrote: > is so bad that it is worth trying to re-implement the import semantics in > pure Python or if in the name of time to just work with the C code. In the name of time, sanity and usefulness, rewriting the expected semantics in

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 355 status

2006-10-01 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 9/30/06, Giovanni Bajo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be terrific if you gave us some clue about what is wrong in PEP355, > so > that the next guy does not waste his time. For instance, I find PEP355 > incredibly good for my own path manipulation (much cleaner and concise than > the > a

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 351 - do while

2006-10-01 Thread Ron Adam
Michael Urman wrote: > On 10/1/06, Ron Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> (I don't think this has been suggested yet.) >> >> while , : >> > > [snip] > >> Putting both the entry and exit conditions at the top is easier to read. > > I agree in principle, but I thought the proposed sy

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 351 - do while

2006-10-01 Thread Andrew Koenig
> This pattern: > > while entry_cond: > ... > and while not exit_cond: > ... > > has been suggested before, and I believe that at least one of the times it > was suggested, it had some support from Guido. Essentially, the "and > while not exit" is equivalent to an "

Re: [Python-Dev] HAVE_UINTPTR_T test in configure.in

2006-10-01 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On Oct 1, 2006, at 10:54 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: Hi, Someone reported on the pythonmac list that HAVE_UINTPTR_T wasn't defined in pyconfig.h while it should have been defined. I'm looking into this and am now wondering whether the configure snipped below is correct: AC_MSG_CHECKING(

Re: [Python-Dev] Caching float(0.0)

2006-10-01 Thread Jean-Paul Calderone
On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 13:54:31 -0400, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >"Nick Craig-Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 12:03:03PM -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: >>> I see some confusion in this thread. >>> >>> If a *LITERAL* 0.0 (or an

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 351 - do while

2006-10-01 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 12:58 PM 10/1/2006 -0400, Andrew Koenig wrote: > > (I don't think this has been suggested yet.) > > > > while , : > > > >This usage makes me uneasy, not the least because I don't understand why the >comma isn't creating a tuple. That is, why whould > > while x, y: >

Re: [Python-Dev] Caching float(0.0)

2006-10-01 Thread Terry Reedy
"Nick Craig-Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 12:03:03PM -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: >> I see some confusion in this thread. >> >> If a *LITERAL* 0.0 (or any other float literal) is used, you only get >> one object, no matter how many t

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 351 - do while

2006-10-01 Thread Andrew Koenig
> (I don't think this has been suggested yet.) > > while , : > This usage makes me uneasy, not the least because I don't understand why the comma isn't creating a tuple. That is, why whould while x, y: be any different from while (x, y):

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 351 - do while

2006-10-01 Thread Michael Urman
On 10/1/06, Ron Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (I don't think this has been suggested yet.) > > while , : > [snip] > Putting both the entry and exit conditions at the top is easier to read. I agree in principle, but I thought the proposed syntax already has meaning today (as it

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 351 - do while

2006-10-01 Thread Ron Adam
Nick Coghlan wrote: > Hans Polak wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Just an opinion, but many uses of the ‘while true loop’ are instances of >> a ‘do loop’. I appreciate the language layout question, so I’ll give you >> an alternative: >> >> >> >> do: >> >> >> >> >> >>

Re: [Python-Dev] Caching float(0.0)

2006-10-01 Thread Nick Craig-Wood
On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 03:21:50PM -0700, Bob Ippolito wrote: > On 9/30/06, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Nick Coghlan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > I suspect the problem would typically stem from floating point > > > values that are read in from a

Re: [Python-Dev] Caching float(0.0)

2006-10-01 Thread Nick Craig-Wood
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 12:03:03PM -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: > I see some confusion in this thread. > > If a *LITERAL* 0.0 (or any other float literal) is used, you only get > one object, no matter how many times it is used. For some reason that doesn't happen in the interpreter which has be

[Python-Dev] HAVE_UINTPTR_T test in configure.in

2006-10-01 Thread Ronald Oussoren
Hi, Someone reported on the pythonmac list that HAVE_UINTPTR_T wasn't defined in pyconfig.h while it should have been defined. I'm looking into this and am now wondering whether the configure snipped below is correct: AC_MSG_CHECKING(for uintptr_t support) have_uintptr_t=no AC_TRY_COMPILE

Re: [Python-Dev] Tix not included in 2.5 for Windows

2006-10-01 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On Sep 30, 2006, at 11:13 PM, Scott David Daniels wrote: Christos Georgiou wrote: Does anyone know why this happens? I can't find any information pointing to this being deliberate. I just upgraded to 2.5 on Windows (after making sure I can build extensions with the freeware VC++ Toolkit