"Guido van Rossum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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| Why only str()? Note that the interactive prompt uses repr() to display
values.
I was under the impression that for range, you still wanted to maintain the
distinction between an evalable and a friendly representa
Brad Miller wrote:
>
I wouldn't include the word "object" in any of these.
Everything in Python is an object, so it's just
space-wasting noise.
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I worked up prototype implementation for dict_keys, dict_values, and
dict_items
Here's an example of what the output looks like:
>>> x = {chr(i):i for i in range(68,90)}
>>> x.keys()
>>> x.values()
>>> x.items()
>>>
comments?
Are there other objects in this family that I should look at?
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:51:53AM -0700, Trent Nelson wrote:
> Following on from the success of previous sprint/bugfix weekends and
> sprinting efforts at PyCon 2008, I'd like to propose the next two
> Global Python Sprint Weekends take place on the following dates:
A great idea; than
Guido van Rossum wrote:
> You are unique in demanding this.
I'm not asking for anything to be changed (I've
already agreed that EOFError can stay the way it
is), just pointing out what I think is a legitimate
use for custom EnvironmentError subclasses.
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Guido van Rossum wrote:
> You are unique in demanding this.
Really? Nobody else wants a convenient way to
distinguish program bugs from exceptions caused
by external factors?
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No, tp_print is dead, unless I am terribly mistaken. (We didn't remove
the slot because that would require updating every single static type
initializer.)
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Christian Heimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Guido van Rossum schrieb:
>
> > Why only str()? Note that the in
Guido van Rossum schrieb:
> Why only str()? Note that the interactive prompt uses repr() to display
> values.
Does py3k still use the tp_print slot for the interactive prompt?
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On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> But what operations raise EOFError? Surely you're not using
> raw_input()? It's really only there for teaching.
>
>
There are quite a few things in Lib/ that raise EOFError on their own. Most
look like reasonable use
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> "Guido van Rossum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> | On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 3:15 AM, Armin Rigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | > What about the less confusing and more readily genera
"Guido van Rossum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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| On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 3:15 AM, Armin Rigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > What about the less confusing and more readily generalizable:
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| >
| >
| > It would also be helpful IMHO to use this kind of repr fo
Trent Nelson wrote:
> Following on from the success of previous sprint/bugfix weekends and
> sprinting efforts at PyCon 2008, I'd like to propose the next two
> Global Python Sprint Weekends take place on the following dates:
>
> * May 10th-11th (four days after 2.6a3 and 3.0a5
Following on from the success of previous sprint/bugfix weekends and
sprinting efforts at PyCon 2008, I'd like to propose the next two
Global Python Sprint Weekends take place on the following dates:
* May 10th-11th (four days after 2.6a3 and 3.0a5 are released)
* June
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, David Wolever wrote:
> On 16-Apr-08, at 9:37 AM, Isaac Morland wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Paul Moore wrote:
>>> On 16/04/2008, Armin Rigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What about the less confusing and more readily generalizable:
It would also be helpfu
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 3:15 AM, Armin Rigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What about the less confusing and more readily generalizable:
>
>
>
> It would also be helpful IMHO to use this kind of repr for most built-in
> iterators and iterables, instead of their mosty-useless default repr.
We
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> If you consume values from the iterator to display them in the repr()
> where do you then propose to store them until the application wants
> them, and how do you distinguish between "real" and "repr" consumption
> of the
On Apr 16, 2008, at 5:15 AM, Armin Rigo wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 03:34:44PM +1200, Greg Ewing wrote:
>>> That's why I proposed <0, 1, ..., 9> for repr(range(10)).
>>
>> My worry is that this will lead a newcomer into thinking
>> this is some kind of valid expression syntax.
>
Isaac Morland wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Paul Moore wrote:
>
>> On 16/04/2008, Armin Rigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> What about the less confusing and more readily generalizable:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It would also be helpful IMHO to use this kind of repr for most built-in
>>> iterators and it
Isaac Morland wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Paul Moore wrote:
>
>> On 16/04/2008, Armin Rigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> What about the less confusing and more readily generalizable:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It would also be helpful IMHO to use this kind of repr for most built-in
>>> iterators and it
On 16-Apr-08, at 9:37 AM, Isaac Morland wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Paul Moore wrote:
>> On 16/04/2008, Armin Rigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> What about the less confusing and more readily generalizable:
>>>
>>>
>>> It would also be helpful IMHO to use this kind of repr for most
>>> buil
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Paul Moore wrote:
> On 16/04/2008, Armin Rigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What about the less confusing and more readily generalizable:
>>
>>
>>
>> It would also be helpful IMHO to use this kind of repr for most built-in
>> iterators and iterables, instead of their mosty-
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -On [20080416 15:20], Ralf Schmitt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >I think documenting this insanity is just insane and doesn't help much.
> >Anyway, you can now close http://bu
-On [20080416 15:20], Ralf Schmitt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>I think documenting this insanity is just insane and doesn't help much.
>Anyway, you can now close http://bugs.python.org/issue2122 as wontfix.
Why?
I added documentation for the current way. I was not aware of the oth
Reading through Modules/mmapmodule.c to work on some documentation I
encountered this:
24 #ifndef MS_WINDOWS
25 #define UNIX
26 #endif
536 #ifdef MS_WINDOWS
537 return PyInt_FromLong((long) FlushViewOfFile(self->data+offset,
siz e));
538 #elif defined(UNIX)
539 /* X
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -On [20080415 23:37], Ralf Schmitt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >The documentation for mmap.flush does not even mention a return value.
>
> Fixed in revision 62359.
>
I think documenting this insanity is
-On [20080415 23:37], Ralf Schmitt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>The documentation for mmap.flush does not even mention a return value.
Fixed in revision 62359.
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On 16/04/2008, Armin Rigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What about the less confusing and more readily generalizable:
>
>
>
> It would also be helpful IMHO to use this kind of repr for most built-in
> iterators and iterables, instead of their mosty-useless default repr.
I quite like this. But as
Hi Greg,
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 03:34:44PM +1200, Greg Ewing wrote:
> > That's why I proposed <0, 1, ..., 9> for repr(range(10)).
>
> My worry is that this will lead a newcomer into thinking
> this is some kind of valid expression syntax.
What about the less confusing and more readily generaliz
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