Re: [Python-Dev] Update to Python Documentation Website Request

2009-07-26 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
"Martin v. Löwis" writes: > > pythonpkgmgr is not so different to that. And the idea behind it is > > to bring consistancy in package management across the different > > platforms. > > At the cost of being inconsistent within a platform. Indeed, and that seems to be one of the really big s

Re: [Python-Dev] Py_TPFLAGS_HEAPTYPE too overloaded

2009-07-26 Thread Greg Ewing
Joshua Haberman wrote: This is not as bad as having someone set __class__ on one of my instances, or set attributes on my type, etc. Is there any real need to prevent someone from doing those things? Note that even when you are allowed to change the __class__ of an instance, you're still preve

[Python-Dev] Py_TPFLAGS_HEAPTYPE too overloaded

2009-07-26 Thread Joshua Haberman
I'm writing a C Python extension that needs to generate PyTypeObjects dynamically. Unfortunately, the Py_TPFLAGS_HEAPTYPE flag is overloaded in a way that makes it difficult to achieve this goal. The documentation for Pt_TPFLAGS_HEAPTYPE says: Py_TPFLAGS_HEAPTYPE This bit is set when the type

Re: [Python-Dev] Update to Python Documentation Website Request

2009-07-26 Thread Martin v. Löwis
>> I'm a user, and personally I don't want Yet Another Integrated Package >> Management Tool. What I really want is the ability to install Python >> packages using the PM tool I already use, namely yum. > > ok - but no alternative to that is available on windows. For removal of packages, an al

Re: [Python-Dev] Update to Python Documentation Website Request

2009-07-26 Thread Martin v. Löwis
>> If they read examples, they will see import >> statements, and then they have to find out how to make those work. >> Does your tool help with that? > > Yes. It will open the website or homepage to the project/package > in question. How does it know the project in question? > Using pythonpkgmg

Re: [Python-Dev] Update to Python Documentation Website Request

2009-07-26 Thread Michael Foord
David Lyon wrote: On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:05:07 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote: But you shouldn't expect the Python dev team to accept an unproven tool into the official library before demonstrating both the need and the solution. Of course... that's why I started off by asking what th

Re: [Python-Dev] Update to Python Documentation Website Request

2009-07-26 Thread David Lyon
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:05:07 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > But you shouldn't expect the > Python dev team to accept an unproven tool into the official library > before demonstrating both the need and the solution. Of course... that's why I started off by asking what the process is. I am acc

Re: [Python-Dev] Update to Python Documentation Website Request

2009-07-26 Thread David Lyon
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:43:07 +0200, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > Hmm. I'm -0 on providing a tool whose only purpose is to download > files from a web server. I always use a web browser for that... It does a lot more than that. Firstly it shows what packages you already have installed and lets you m

Re: [Python-Dev] Update to Python Documentation Website Request

2009-07-26 Thread Nick Coghlan
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I'm a user, and personally I don't want Yet Another Integrated Package > Management Tool. What I really want is the ability to install Python > packages using the PM tool I already use, namely yum. (And I'd like a > pony.) Picking up on this point... out of curiousity,

Re: [Python-Dev] Update to Python Documentation Website Request

2009-07-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:32:55 pm David Lyon wrote: > > In addition to the other constraints you'll have to meet for this > > to happen, you also have to wait a rather long time (several years) > > before inclusion becomes possible. This time is necessary for the > > community to accept your tool, a