On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Willem, the rationale for this PEP is to give alternative
> implementations the chance to catch up with CPython.
>
> Given your statement that CLPython is quite complete on the language
> level, but missing standard library features, how do
...
> A moratorium isn't cost-free. With the back-end free to change, patches
> will go stale over 2+ years. People will lose interest or otherwise
> move on. Those with good ideas but little patience will be discouraged.
> I fully expect that, human nature being as it is, those proposing a
>
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:46:00 pm Willem Broekema wrote:
> CLPython is in steady development, quite complete and stable on the
> language level (somewhere between 2.5 and 2.6), but missing most
> built-in library functionality. (It reuses the pure-Python parts of
> the stdlib.)
>
> As its developer,
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:05:17 am Guido van Rossum wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Guido van Rossum
wrote:
> > I've checked draft (!) PEP 3003, "Python Language Moratorium", into
> > SVN. As authors I've listed Jesse, Brett and myself.
>
> I haven't seen substantial opposition against the P
Hello again,
> It shows that, on my platform for this specific benchmark:
> * newgil manage to leverage a significant amount of parallelism
> (1.7) where python 3.1 does not (3.1 is 80% slower)
I think you are mistaken:
-j0 (main thread only)
newgil: 47.483s, 47.605s, 47.512s
-j4
2009/11/7 Antoine Pitrou
>
> [...]
> So, to sum it up, the way the current GIL manages to have good latencies is
> by
> issueing an unreasonable number of system calls on a contended lock, and
> potentially killing throughput performance (this depends on the OS too,
> because
> numbers under Linu
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>
> Hello Guido,
>
>> How close are you to merging this into the Py3k branch? It looks like
>> a solid piece of work, that can only get better in the period between
>> now and the release of 3.2. But I don't want to rush you, and I only
>> have
Hello Guido,
> How close are you to merging this into the Py3k branch? It looks like
> a solid piece of work, that can only get better in the period between
> now and the release of 3.2. But I don't want to rush you, and I only
> have had a brief look at your code.
The code is ready. Priority re
exar...@twistedmatrix.com schrieb:
> On 12:10 pm, s...@pobox.com wrote:
>>Guido> ... it's IMO pretty mysterious if you encounter this and
>>don't
>>Guido> already happen to know what it means.
>>
>>If you require parens maybe it parses better:
>>
>>import (a or b or c) as mod
>>
>>Give
Antoine,
How close are you to merging this into the Py3k branch? It looks like
a solid piece of work, that can only get better in the period between
now and the release of 3.2. But I don't want to rush you, and I only
have had a brief look at your code. (I whipped up a small Dave Beazley
example a
On Nov 7, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Jesse Noller wrote:
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:30 AM, sstein...@gmail.com > wrote:
On Nov 7, 2009, at 3:20 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
Guido van Rossum writes:
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:52 PM, David Lyon >
wrote:
I think buildbot-style test runs for PyPI packages woul
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 9:30 AM, sstein...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 7, 2009, at 3:20 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
>
>> Guido van Rossum writes:
>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:52 PM, David Lyon
>>> wrote:
>> I think buildbot-style test runs for PyPI packages would raise average
>> package quality
Hello,
> Solaris X86, 16 cores: some python extension are likely missing (see
config.log)
> Windows XP SP3, 4 cores: all python extensions but TCL (I didn't bother
checking why it failed as it is not used in the benchmark). It is a release
build.
>
> The results look promising but I let you sh
On Nov 7, 2009, at 3:20 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
Guido van Rossum writes:
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:52 PM, David Lyon
wrote:
I think buildbot-style test runs for PyPI packages would raise average
package quality on PyPI.
Please excuse the cross-post but I wanted to make sure that all these
On 12:10 pm, s...@pobox.com wrote:
Guido> ... it's IMO pretty mysterious if you encounter this and
don't
Guido> already happen to know what it means.
If you require parens maybe it parses better:
import (a or b or c) as mod
Given that the or operator shortcuts I think that (a or b or
Guido> ... it's IMO pretty mysterious if you encounter this and don't
Guido> already happen to know what it means.
If you require parens maybe it parses better:
import (a or b or c) as mod
Given that the or operator shortcuts I think that (a or b or c) terminates
once a module is fou
Hi Antoine,
I was finally able to compile py3k and run the benchmark (my compilation
issue was caused by checking out on Windows and compiling on Unix. Some
Makefile templates are missing correct EOL properties in SVN I think).
The benchmark results can be obtained from:
http://gaiacrtn.free.fr/py
On Nov 6, 2009, at 4:52 PM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
On 09:48 pm, rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 at 15:48, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote:
Documentation would be great, but then you have to get people to
read the documentation and that's kind of tricky. Better would be
On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:
R. David Murray schrieb:
So, overall I think the buildbot fleet is in good shape, and if
we can nail issue 6748 I think it will be back to being an
important resource for sanity checking our checkins.
Yay! Thanks to all of you!
Indeed! It's
~b
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