Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-19 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Lawrence writes: > Is this the same login as for the issue tracker or is a new one needed? It's different. Both trackers are supposed to support OpenID logins, I believe. (However, there are somewhat frequent reports of difficulties with it; I don't know if the system is fully debugged.

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-19 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Paul Moore wrote: > On 18 July 2010 20:57, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: >> >> On Jul 18, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: >> >> We already have "posponed" and "remind" resolutions, but these are >> exclusive of "accepted".   I think there should be a clear

Re: [Python-Dev] Python signal processing question

2010-07-19 Thread Terry Reedy
On 7/19/2010 6:08 PM, average wrote: We'are sorry but we cannot help you. This mailing list is to work on developing Python (fixing bugs and adding new features to Python itself); if you're having problems using Python, please find another forum. Probably python-list (comp.lang.python) news gr

Re: [Python-Dev] Markup of command-line options in Python's .rst documentation

2010-07-19 Thread Eli Bendersky
> > 'cmdoption' is a directive, while 'option' is inline markup. Therefore I > > wouldn't say they're completely similar, just meant for different > purposes. Both > > a directive and inline markup is useful for describing "official python > > executable options/flags". Regarding per-module options

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-19 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: .. > Is this the same login as for the issue tracker or is a new one needed? > AFAIK, it is separate. > I also suspect that subsections for Extension Modules would be extremely > useful for our C developers, thoughts anybody? Well, with the

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-19 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 18/07/2010 23:38, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 6:10 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: Maybe going off on a tangent, but I find it frustrating because you (plural) can't find a given module on the issue tracker. Say I'm looking for issues relating to smtplib, all I can do is

Re: [Python-Dev] Markup of command-line options in Python's .rst documentation

2010-07-19 Thread Eli Bendersky
> > > > More input on this issue: > > > > 'cmdoption' is a directive, while 'option' is inline markup. Therefore I > > wouldn't say they're completely similar, just meant for different > purposes. Both > > a directive and inline markup is useful for describing "official python > > executable option

Re: [Python-Dev] Python signal processing question

2010-07-19 Thread Michael Crute
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Scott McCarty wrote: > All, I have searched everywhere (mostly the code and a little google) and I > cannot understand where the SIGKILL signal gets checked when it is set as a > handler. I have scoured the Modules/signalmodule.c only to find two > instances of th

Re: [Python-Dev] Python signal processing question

2010-07-19 Thread Greg Ewing
Scott McCarty wrote: All, I have searched everywhere (mostly the code and a little google) and I cannot understand where the SIGKILL signal gets checked when it is set as a handler. Possibly it's not being checked at all by Python, but is being rejected by the system call. The Darwin man page

Re: [Python-Dev] mkdir -p in python

2010-07-19 Thread Greg Ewing
Ray Allen wrote: I think both os.mkdir() and os.makedirs() should add a keyword argument to suppress the "OSError: [Errno 17] File exists". This could be seen as violating the "no constant arguments" guideline. Maybe separate function would be better? -- Greg

Re: [Python-Dev] Python signal processing question

2010-07-19 Thread Simon Cross
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Steve Holden wrote: > Another potential developer walks away feeling unwanted? Let just kill this thread here. SIGKILL can't be caught. :) (I had sort of assumed that Marcos was being ironic). Schiavo Simon ___ Python

Re: [Python-Dev] Python signal processing question

2010-07-19 Thread Steve Holden
On 7/19/2010 11:08 PM, average wrote: >> We'are sorry but we cannot help you. This mailing list is to work on >> developing Python (fixing bugs and adding new features to Python itself); if >> you're having problems using Python, please find another forum. Probably >> python-list (comp.lang.pytho

Re: [Python-Dev] Python signal processing question

2010-07-19 Thread average
>   We'are sorry but we cannot help you. This mailing list is to work on > developing Python (fixing bugs and adding new features to Python itself); if > you're having problems using Python, please find another forum. Probably > python-list (comp.lang.python) news group/mailing list is the best pla

Re: [Python-Dev] Use of coding cookie in 3.x stdlib

2010-07-19 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > Sounds like a good idea to try to remove redundant cookies *and* to > remove most occasional use of non-ASCII characters outside comments. ... Please see http://bugs.python.org/issue9308 . I am going to post a patch shortly.

Re: [Python-Dev] Python signal processing question

2010-07-19 Thread Oleg Broytman
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 01:09:36PM -0400, Scott McCarty wrote: > I apologize if this is the wrong place to ask questions about Python C code, > but I didn't know where else to turn. I don't think the regular user group > will be technical enough to find this, am I wrong? I am sure there are qui

Re: [Python-Dev] Python signal processing question

2010-07-19 Thread Scott McCarty
I apologize if this is the wrong place to ask questions about Python C code, but I didn't know where else to turn. I don't think the regular user group will be technical enough to find this, am I wrong? There is no forum for something this in depth. This is not a usage problem, I want to know wher

Re: [Python-Dev] Python signal processing question

2010-07-19 Thread Oleg Broytman
Hello. We'are sorry but we cannot help you. This mailing list is to work on developing Python (fixing bugs and adding new features to Python itself); if you're having problems using Python, please find another forum. Probably python-list (comp.lang.python) news group/mailing list is the best pl

[Python-Dev] Python signal processing question

2010-07-19 Thread Scott McCarty
All, I have searched everywhere (mostly the code and a little google) and I cannot understand where the SIGKILL signal gets checked when it is set as a handler. I have scoured the Modules/signalmodule.c only to find two instances of the RuntimeError exception, but I cannot understand how python kno

Re: [Python-Dev] mkdir -p in python

2010-07-19 Thread Ray Allen
See http://bugs.python.org/issue9299 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Ray Allen wrote: > > Agree. Through searching for existing issues, I found there isn't any such > request. And I will submit one. > > The '-p' option of shell's mkdir has tow functions: > 1, create parents directories if n

Re: [Python-Dev] mkdir -p in python

2010-07-19 Thread Ray Allen
Agree. Through searching for existing issues, I found there isn't any such request. And I will submit one. The '-p' option of shell's mkdir has tow functions: 1, create parents directories if not exists, 2, suppress "File exists" error if the target has already exists. What we need is the

Re: [Python-Dev] Markup of command-line options in Python's .rst documentation

2010-07-19 Thread Éric Araujo
Le 19/07/2010 04:57, Eli Bendersky a écrit : > On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 16:44, Éric Araujo wrote: >> I think this is a doc bug in Doc/documenting/markup.rst >> :cmdoption: and :option: are not clearly distinguished; the latter >> creates references to using/cmdline, the former is what you’re lookin

Re: [Python-Dev] Markup of command-line options in Python's .rst documentation

2010-07-19 Thread Éric Araujo
Le 19/07/2010 04:57, Eli Bendersky a écrit : > On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 16:44, Éric Araujo wrote: >> I think this is a doc bug in Doc/documenting/markup.rst >> :cmdoption: and :option: are not clearly distinguished; the latter >> creates references to using/cmdline, the former is what you’re lookin

Re: [Python-Dev] Does trace modules have a unit test?

2010-07-19 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Alexander Belopolsky > wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:12 AM, Eli Bendersky wrote: >> .. >>> stdout output can be captured, but what about the .cover files? Can a Python >>> unit test create tem

Re: [Python-Dev] tracker contribution

2010-07-19 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > Hell, I just wish I was fully healthy and had my MBCS/CEng status back, then > I'd really feel capable of letting fly.  Having worked on massive UK MOD > projects (can't say much, Official Secrets Acts and all that stuff) and > knowing a hell

Re: [Python-Dev] Markup of command-line options in Python's .rst documentation

2010-07-19 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 19.07.2010 04:28, schrieb Eli Bendersky: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 05:57, Eli Bendersky > wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 16:44, Éric Araujo > wrote: > > > The "--help" option appears as a hyperlink leading to > >