Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r86264 - python/branches/release27-maint/Lib/distutils/sysconfig.py

2010-11-07 Thread Martin v. Löwis
It's rather a matter of agreeing when moving forward: IMO, mere style changes, code cleanup etc shouldn't be applied to the bug fix branches, as their only purpose is to provide bug fixes for existing users. The omission of the deletion from the 5/5 revision was a bug in that revision. If

[Python-Dev] Snakebite, buildbot and low hanging fruit -- feedback wanted! (Was Re: SSH access against buildbot boxes)

2010-11-07 Thread Trent Nelson
On 07-Nov-10 1:55 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Giampaolo Rodolàg.rod...@gmail.com wrote: In such cases I would find more easy to be able to connect to the machine and test myself rather than create a separate branch, commit, schedule a buildbot run, wait for it to

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite, buildbot and low hanging fruit -- feedback wanted! (Was Re: SSH access against buildbot boxes)

2010-11-07 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Trent Nelson tr...@snakebite.org wrote: 1.  Set up standard build slaves on all the platforms, but put something in place that allowed committers to ssh/mstsc in to said slaves when things go wrong in order to aid with debugging and/or maintaining general

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite, buildbot and low hanging fruit -- feedback wanted! (Was Re: SSH access against buildbot boxes)

2010-11-07 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:24, Trent Nelson tr...@snakebite.org wrote: Titus, for example, alluded to some nifty way for a committer to push his local hg branch/changes somewhere, such that it would kick off builds on multiple platforms in the same sorta' vein as point 2, but able to leverage

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r86264 - python/branches/release27-maint/Lib/distutils/sysconfig.py

2010-11-07 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 09:01:22 +0100 Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: If I were going to maintain 2.7 for several years, I would want to have the benefit of gradual improvements that make maintainance easier. I question whether cleanup on a maintenance branch makes maintenance

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite, buildbot and low hanging fruit -- feedback wanted! (Was Re: SSH access against buildbot boxes)

2010-11-07 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 07.11.2010 12:50, schrieb Nick Coghlan: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Trent Nelson tr...@snakebite.org wrote: 1. Set up standard build slaves on all the platforms, but put something in place that allowed committers to ssh/mstsc in to said slaves when things go wrong in order to aid with

Re: [Python-Dev] Python-3 transition in Arch Linux

2010-11-07 Thread James Y Knight
On Nov 6, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: So I don't recall a decision that there shouldn't be a python2 binary, The decision to make one would have to be an active decision, since Python has never installed one before. If there should be one, then the Python Makefile should make one

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite, buildbot and low hanging fruit -- feedback wanted! (Was Re: SSH access against buildbot boxes)

2010-11-07 Thread exarkun
On 11:24 am, tr...@snakebite.org wrote: 2. Address the second problem of the buildbot web interface sucking for non-standard branches. I'm thinking along the lines of a hack to buildbot, such that upon creation of new per-activity branches off a mainline, something magically runs in the

Re: [Python-Dev] rlcompleter -- auto-complete dictionary keys (+ tests)

2010-11-07 Thread Brian Curtin
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 04:19, Valery Khamenya khame...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, A) I missed the auto-complete feature for dictionary keys a lot in python console. This patch seems to do the job. B) There is no rlcompleter tests in trunk for some reason. So, I've taken the 2.7.x

Re: [Python-Dev] rlcompleter -- auto-complete dictionary keys (+ tests)

2010-11-07 Thread Valery Khamenya
Can you post your patch on bugs.python.org? the site is not working currently. Also, I have forgotten to mention, that the usual lines in .pythonstartup should look now like that: # the usual lines: import readline import rlcompleter readline.parse_and_bind('tab: complete')

[Python-Dev] bugs.python.org not responding (Was: rlcompleter -- auto-complete dictionary keys (+ tests))

2010-11-07 Thread Bobby Impollonia
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Valery Khamenya khame...@gmail.com wrote: Can you post your patch on bugs.python.org?  the site is not working currently. Yes, it is down for me too, trying from multiple hosts. It was up approximately an hour ago, but has now been unresponsive for the past

Re: [Python-Dev] bugs.python.org not responding (Was: rlcompleter -- auto-complete dictionary keys (+ tests))

2010-11-07 Thread R. David Murray
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 09:30:17 -0800, Bobby Impollonia bob...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Valery Khamenya khame...@gmail.com wrote: Can you post your patch on bugs.python.org? the site is not working currently. Yes, it is down for me too, trying from multiple hosts. It

[Python-Dev] Bug track down?

2010-11-07 Thread MRAB
It looks like the bug tracker is down. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Python-3 transition in Arch Linux

2010-11-07 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 07.11.2010 15:57, schrieb James Y Knight: On Nov 6, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: So I don't recall a decision that there shouldn't be a python2 binary, The decision to make one would have to be an active decision, since Python has never installed one before. If there should

Re: [Python-Dev] Bug track down?

2010-11-07 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 07.11.2010 22:05, schrieb MRAB: It looks like the bug tracker is down. Thanks - we have already contacted the hosting company, who have already contacted the datacenter. It appears that the bug tracker actually wasn't down (at least, it believes it was up all time), which suggests that there

Re: [Python-Dev] r86276 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/distutils/cygwinccompiler.py

2010-11-07 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 19:03:53 +0100 (CET) eric.araujo python-check...@python.org wrote: Author: eric.araujo Date: Sat Nov 6 19:03:52 2010 New Revision: 86276 Log: Fix #10252 again (hopefully definitely). Patch by Brian Curtin. It seems this and previous fixes should be backported to 2.7.

Re: [Python-Dev] Too many open files errors on x86 FreeBSD 7.2 3.x buildbot

2010-11-07 Thread David Bolen
Victor Stinner victor.stin...@haypocalc.com writes: You wrote that the POSIX semaphore are very limited. Do it mean that there is another kind of semaphore will an higher limit? Well, I think the SYSV semaphores are either less limited or at least more adjustable. They've certainly been

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite, buildbot and low hanging fruit -- feedback wanted! (Was Re: SSH access against buildbot boxes)

2010-11-07 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Luckily, the problems that we faced 2.5 years ago when I came up with the idea of Snakebite are still just as ever present today ;-) Is this bashing of existing infrastructure really necessary? People (like me) might start bashing about vaporware and how a bird in the hand is worth two in the

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite, buildbot and low hanging fruit -- feedback wanted! (Was Re: SSH access against buildbot boxes)

2010-11-07 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I've spent a good bit of time on that, and left all the instructions in the buildbot master config. I also adapted buildbot's hg hook to our situation (e.g. to send a change to multiple masters, as required for the community buildbots), so it should be quite easy to actually switch the

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite, buildbot and low hanging fruit -- feedback wanted! (Was Re: SSH access against buildbot boxes)

2010-11-07 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 06:24:59 -0500 Trent Nelson tr...@snakebite.org wrote: (And if we feel like bringing IRIX/MIPS and Tru64/Alphas back as primary platforms, we've got the hardware to do that, too ;-).) Unless you want to rename your project zombiebite, it would probably be better not to

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite, buildbot and low hanging fruit -- feedback wanted! (Was Re: SSH access against buildbot boxes)

2010-11-07 Thread Scott Dial
On 11/7/2010 7:09 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: Luckily, the problems that we faced 2.5 years ago when I came up with the idea of Snakebite are still just as ever present today ;-) Is this bashing of existing infrastructure really necessary? People (like me) might start bashing about vaporware

Re: [Python-Dev] Too many open files errors on x86 FreeBSD 7.2 3.x buildbot

2010-11-07 Thread Victor Stinner
On Monday 08 November 2010 00:34:36 David Bolen wrote: Victor Stinner victor.stin...@haypocalc.com writes: You wrote that the POSIX semaphore are very limited. Do it mean that there is another kind of semaphore will an higher limit? Well, I think the SYSV semaphores are either less limited

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite, buildbot and low hanging fruit -- feedback wanted! (Was Re: SSH access against buildbot boxes)

2010-11-07 Thread C. Titus Brown
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 09:32:33PM -0500, Scott Dial wrote: On 11/7/2010 7:09 PM, Martin v. L?wis wrote: Luckily, the problems that we faced 2.5 years ago when I came up with the idea of Snakebite are still just as ever present today ;-) Is this bashing of existing infrastructure really

[Python-Dev] KeyboardInterrupt not catch

2010-11-07 Thread Qi Yong
Hello, With this script, after ctrl-d, ctrl-c exception not catch. Is it a python bug or a wrong exception usage? Thanks. If with import readline, this problem disappears. -- qiyong def parse(): try: answer = raw_input(Eo: ) print answer except

Re: [Python-Dev] r86276 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/distutils/cygwinccompiler.py

2010-11-07 Thread Terry Reedy
On 11/7/2010 5:11 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 19:03:53 +0100 (CET) eric.araujopython-check...@python.org wrote: Author: eric.araujo Date: Sat Nov 6 19:03:52 2010 New Revision: 86276 Log: Fix #10252 again (hopefully definitely). Patch by Brian Curtin. It seems this and

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite, buildbot and low hanging fruit -- feedback wanted! (Was Re: SSH access against buildbot boxes)

2010-11-07 Thread Scott Dial
On 11/7/2010 9:58 PM, C. Titus Brown wrote: Yes, yes, I agree that some graciousness is a good idea. Oh, wait... you're not helping. Classy. I don't remember being invited to help. snakebite.org is a dead end. snakebite-list hasn't had a post for over a year. Where is the list of things that

Re: [Python-Dev] KeyboardInterrupt not catch

2010-11-07 Thread Ben Finney
Qi Yong qiy...@sosdg.org writes: With this script, after ctrl-d, ctrl-c exception not catch. When I run it, the Ctrl-D doesn't affect the behaviour of Ctrl-C. Can you confirm that the behaviour is dependent on whether Ctrl-D is used? If with import readline, this problem disappears. Again,

Re: [Python-Dev] KeyboardInterrupt not catch

2010-11-07 Thread Ralf Schmitt
Qi Yong qiy...@sosdg.org writes: Hello, With this script, after ctrl-d, ctrl-c exception not catch. Is it a python bug or a wrong exception usage? Thanks. If with import readline, this problem disappears. there's already a bug in the issue tracker: http://bugs.python.org/issue1195 Cheers,

Re: [Python-Dev] Snakebite, buildbot and low hanging fruit -- feedback wanted! (Was Re: SSH access against buildbot boxes)

2010-11-07 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 08.11.2010 01:13, schrieb Martin v. Löwis: I've spent a good bit of time on that, and left all the instructions in the buildbot master config. I also adapted buildbot's hg hook to our situation (e.g. to send a change to multiple masters, as required for the community buildbots), so it