On Jan 25, 2015, at 09:31 PM, R. David Murray wrote:
{*x for x in it}
which is a set comprehension, while the other is a dict comprehension :)
That distinction doesn't bother me -- you might as well claim it's
confusing that f(*x) passes positional args from x while f(**x)
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:43:26 -0500, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Jan 25, 2015, at 09:31 PM, R. David Murray wrote:
{*x for x in it}
which is a set comprehension, while the other is a dict comprehension
:)
That distinction doesn't bother me -- you might as
On 2015-01-24 7:17 AM, Donald Stufft wrote:
It’s not just power users that it’s good for, it makes it harder for
even beginners to use things like backports of modules.
What about cases where new module versions are put in as dependencies of
other packages and they stomp standard library
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:06:26 -0800
Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
It destroy's the chaining value and pretty much makes the improvement not an
improvement. If there's a possibility that
the same key could be in more than one of the dictionaries then you still
have to do the
Looking at pydoc.py, it looks like the Tk is purely optional...and isn't
called from the interpreter. (I'm not a core dev, though, so take that with
a grain of salt.) However, can't you just strip out the gui function and
the one place in the file where it's called?
Again, not a main Python
Of course. I hadn't had time to answer your private e-mail but will do
so soon :-)
Regards
Antoine.
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 17:24:31 +
Gregory P. Smith g...@krypto.org wrote:
I want this buildbot to run make profile-opt instead of make all and
it'd be best if it could _not_ have
Do we have our own mailing list for Roundup?
I'm trying to fix the Activity Date search bug (only returns issues where the
*last* activity was on a date, not *any*
activity on a date).
--
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On 01/26/2015 11:24 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
In the your example
from_env = {'a': 12}
from_config = {'a': 13}
f(**from_env, **from_config)
I would think 'a' should be 13, as from_config is processed /after/ from_env.
So which is it?
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
On 01/26/2015 11:24 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
In the your example
from_env = {'a': 12}
from_config = {'a': 13}
f(**from_env, **from_config)
I would think 'a' should
Hello,
I've finally managed to build a (somewhat) working Python port for the
Android tablet I'm using. Unfortunately, as I quickly found out,
Python's built-in help function requires tkinter, which requires
tcl/tk.
I did download the sources for tcl/tk and built tcl, but found out
that tk
On 01/26/2015 10:40 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
There *are* some nastily non-intuitive corner cases (for example, if
from_env={'a':12} and from_config={'a':13}, I don't have any sort of
intuition as to what a would be in f(**from_env, **from_config). I'd
go with 12 because the PEP links multiple
On 01/26/2015 10:55 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 01/26/2015 10:40 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
There *are* some nastily non-intuitive corner cases (for example, if
from_env={'a':12} and from_config={'a':13}, I don't have any sort of
intuition as to what a would be in f(**from_env, **from_config). I'd
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
So which is it?
Precisely...
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On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
In the your example
from_env = {'a': 12}
from_config = {'a': 13}
f(**from_env, **from_config)
I would think 'a' should be 13, as from_config is processed /after/ from_env.
So which is it?
In the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation
On 01/26/2015 11:39 AM, Petr Viktorin wrote:
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
On 01/26/2015 11:24 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
In the your example
from_env = {'a': 12}
from_config = {'a': 13}
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On 01/26/2015 09:43 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
This is head-scratcher code that I'm sure I'd get asked about from
folks who aren't steeped in all the dark corners of Python. I don't
know if that's an argument not to adopt the PEP, but it I think it
On 01/26/2015 12:09 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:06:26 -0800
Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
It destroy's the chaining value and pretty much makes the improvement not an
improvement. If there's a possibility that
the same key could be in more than one of the
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Cyd Haselton chasel...@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately, as I quickly found out,
Python's built-in help function requires tkinter, which requires
tcl/tk.
I'm a little confused. Are you using some sort of freeze system which
is deciding Tkinter is required? I use
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 10:46:02 -0500
R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:43:26 -0500, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Jan 25, 2015, at 09:31 PM, R. David Murray wrote:
{*x for x in it}
which is a set comprehension, while the other is a
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
I also think the multiple-starargs function calls are completely
overboard:
f(**someargs, **someotherargs)
(I might add I've never felt any need for those)
This makes sense to me, but I wonder how you resolve the
I want this buildbot to run make profile-opt instead of make all and
it'd be best if it could _not_ have --with-pydebug on the ./configure
command line.
I've got a small VM at the moment with one CPU and 600mb ram so just give
it a make -j2 at most to start with.
If that is possible, please
On 26 January 2015 at 18:12, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
I have to agree with Barry. While the following is obvious even without
having ever used it:
a, b, *c = range(5)
the following makes me scratch my head and I can't seem to guess what
the *intent* is - which is very
On 01/26/2015 07:25 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
I also think the multiple-starargs function calls are completely
overboard:
f(**someargs, **someotherargs)
(I might add I've never felt any need for those)
This
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Cyd Haselton chasel...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I've finally managed to build a (somewhat) working Python port for the
Android tablet I'm using. Unfortunately, as I quickly found out,
Python's built-in help function requires tkinter, which requires
tcl/tk.
On 01/26/2015 09:25 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Do we have our own mailing list for Roundup?
I'm trying to fix the Activity Date search bug (only returns issues where the
*last* activity was on a date, not *any* activity on a date).
That would be tracker-discuss.
Georg
On 25.01.15 17:08, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 21:10:51 -0500
Neil Girdhar mistersh...@gmail.com wrote:
To finish PEP 448, I need to update the grammar for syntax such as
{**x for x in it}
Is this seriously allowed by the PEP? What does it mean exactly?
I would understand this
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:22:20 -0800
Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
On 01/26/2015 12:09 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:06:26 -0800
Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
It destroy's the chaining value and pretty much makes the improvement not
an improvement. If
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 22:05:44 +0100, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:22:20 -0800
Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
On 01/26/2015 12:09 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:06:26 -0800
Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
It destroy's
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:28:24 -0500
R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote:
My use case is a configuration method that takes keyword parameters.
In tests I want to specify a bunch of default values for the
configuration, but I want individual test methods to be able
to override those
On 2015-01-26 19:39, Petr Viktorin wrote:
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
On 01/26/2015 11:24 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
In the your example
from_env = {'a': 12}
from_config = {'a': 13}
f(**from_env,
On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 00:07:08 +0100, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:28:24 -0500
R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote:
My use case is a configuration method that takes keyword parameters.
In tests I want to specify a bunch of default values for the
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
Do we have our own mailing list for Roundup?
Hi,
Yes: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tracker-discuss There is
also a tracker for bugs.p.o:
http://psf.upfronthosting.co.za/roundup/meta/
--Berker
On 26.01.15 00:59, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Interestingly, the non-dict versions can all be written today using a
double-nested comprehension, e.g. {**x for x in it} can be written as:
{x for x in xs for xs in it}
{x for xs in it for x in xs}
But it's not so straightforward for
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