On 2 April 2015 at 16:38, PJ Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote:
IOW, there's no need to modify the core just to have *that* feature,
since if you control the base class you can already do what PEP 487
does in essentially every version of Python, ever. If that's all PEP
487 is going to do, it
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 April 2015 at 07:35, PJ Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote:
I recently got an inquiry from some of my users about porting some of
my libraries to Python 3 that make use of the Python 2 __metaclass__
facility. While
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 1:42 PM, PJ Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote:
If the PEP 487 metaclass library,
however, were to just port some bits of my code to Python 3 this could
be a done deal already and available in *all* versions of Python 3,
not just the next one.
Just for the heck of it,
Are you building from mercurial or a source tarball?
On 4/2/2015 21:29, Ethan Furman wrote:
I just built the latest version of Python 2.7 on my development machine -- or
so I thought. When I invoke it, I get:
Python 2.7.6+ (2.7:1beb3e0507fa, Apr 2 2015, 17:57:53)
Why am I not seeing
On 3 April 2015 at 08:24, Martin Teichmann lkb.teichm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone,
If the PEP 487 metaclass library,
however, were to just port some bits of my code to Python 3 this could
be a done deal already and available in *all* versions of Python 3,
not just the next one.
On 04/03, Greg Ewing wrote:
On 04/03/2015 02:31 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
If I'm understanding PJE's main concern correctly it's that this
approach requires explicitly testing that the decorator has been
applied correctly in your automated tests every time you use it, as
otherwise there's a
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
On 04/02, Alexander Walters wrote:
On 4/2/2015 21:29, Ethan Furman wrote:
I just built the latest version of Python 2.7 on my development machine --
or so I thought. When I invoke it, I get:
Python 2.7.6+
Hi everyone,
for those new to the discussion, I am the author of PEP 487,
which has been discussed here:
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2015-February/032249.html
The concern is twofold: it breaks proper information hiding/DRY, *and*
it fails silently. It should not be
I just built the latest version of Python 2.7 on my development machine -- or
so I thought. When I invoke it, I get:
Python 2.7.6+ (2.7:1beb3e0507fa, Apr 2 2015, 17:57:53)
Why am I not seeing 2.7.9?
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On 04/02, Alexander Walters wrote:
On 4/2/2015 21:29, Ethan Furman wrote:
I just built the latest version of Python 2.7 on my development machine --
or so I thought. When I invoke it, I get:
Python 2.7.6+ (2.7:1beb3e0507fa, Apr 2 2015, 17:57:53)
Why am I not seeing 2.7.9?
Are you
Hi everyone,
If the PEP 487 metaclass library,
however, were to just port some bits of my code to Python 3 this could
be a done deal already and available in *all* versions of Python 3,
not just the next one.
Just for the heck of it, here's an actual implementation and demo of
PEP 487,
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 3 April 2015 at 08:24, Martin Teichmann lkb.teichm...@gmail.com wrote:
However, I'm also now wondering if it may be possible to reach out to
the pylint authors (similar to what Brett did for the pylint --py3k
flag) and
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Martin Teichmann
lkb.teichm...@gmail.com wrote:
The whole point of PEP 487 was to reduce PEP 422 so much that
it can be written in python and back-ported.
As I said earlier, it's a fine feature and should be in the stdlib for
Python 3. (But it should have a
On 04/03/2015 02:31 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
If I'm understanding PJE's main concern correctly it's that this
approach requires explicitly testing that the decorator has been
applied correctly in your automated tests every time you use it, as
otherwise there's a risk of a silent failure when you
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Greg Ewing greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote:
On 04/03/2015 02:31 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
If I'm understanding PJE's main concern correctly it's that this
approach requires explicitly testing that the decorator has been
applied correctly in your automated
On Thursday, April 2, 2015, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
I just built the latest version of Python 2.7 on my development machine --
or so I thought. When I invoke it, I get:
Python 2.7.6+ (2.7:1beb3e0507fa, Apr 2 2015, 17:57:53)
Why am I not seeing 2.7.9?
On 1 April 2015 at 17:32, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote:
Currently, there is an IRC bot on #python-dev which notify when buildbot
color changes. Or sometiles I chceck the huge waterfall page. By the way, it
became difficult to browse this page because there are too many offline
On 04/02, Brian Curtin wrote:
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
On 04/02, Alexander Walters wrote:
On 4/2/2015 21:29, Ethan Furman wrote:
I just built the latest version of Python 2.7 on my development machine --
or so I thought. When I invoke it, I
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 06:46:11PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On 2 April 2015 at 16:38, PJ Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote:
IOW, there's no need to modify the core just to have *that* feature,
since if you control the base class you can already do what PEP 487
does in essentially every
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 4:46 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 April 2015 at 16:38, PJ Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote:
IOW, there's no need to modify the core just to have *that* feature,
since if you control the base class you can already do what PEP 487
does in essentially
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