[Python-Dev] Bitbucket mirror is out-of-date

2015-08-06 Thread Larry Hastings
Bitbucket has a mirror of cpython, here: https://bitbucket.org/mirror/cpython It was last updated on May 7 and still says it's Python 3.5.0a4. It's not clear to me who owns the "mirror" account--is it Atlassian themselves? Anyway it'd be nice if it were, y'know, fresher. //arry/ _

Re: [Python-Dev] updating ensurepip to include wheel

2015-08-06 Thread Robert Collins
On 7 August 2015 at 03:28, Donald Stufft wrote: > >> On Aug 6, 2015, at 5:04 AM, Robert Collins wrote: >> >> Yes: but the logic chain from 'its a bad idea' to 'we don't include >> wheel but we do include setuptools' is the bit I'm having a hard time >> with. > > > In my opinion, it’s the severity

Re: [Python-Dev] updating ensurepip to include wheel

2015-08-06 Thread Donald Stufft
> On Aug 6, 2015, at 5:04 AM, Robert Collins wrote: > > Yes: but the logic chain from 'its a bad idea' to 'we don't include > wheel but we do include setuptools' is the bit I'm having a hard time > with. In my opinion, it’s the severity of how crippled their experience is without that particu

Re: [Python-Dev] updating ensurepip to include wheel

2015-08-06 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 6 August 2015 at 19:04, Robert Collins wrote: > On 6 August 2015 at 15:04, Nick Coghlan wrote: > When I consider the harm to a production pipeline that using > setuptools can cause (in that it triggers easy_install, and > easy_install has AFAIK none of the security improvements pip has added >

Re: [Python-Dev] updating ensurepip to include wheel

2015-08-06 Thread Robert Collins
On 6 August 2015 at 15:04, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 6 August 2015 at 09:29, Victor Stinner wrote: >> Le 5 août 2015 17:12, "Nick Coghlan" a écrit : >>> A hard dependency on wheel wouldn't fit into the same category - when >>> folks are using a build pipeline to minimise the installation >>> foot