On Wed, Dec 30, 2020, 1:05 AM Guido van Rossum wrote:
> I need to think about this more.
>
> Technically the class *is* created at the point `__init_subclass__` is
> called. What the metaclass does after that point is embellishment.
>
> Most metaclasses will have sufficient control for their need
On 12/29/2020 10:00 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
I need to think about this more.
Both techniques could coexist.
Technically the class *is* created at the point `__init_subclass__` is
called. What the metaclass does after that point is embellishment.
Most metaclasses will have sufficient con
I need to think about this more.
Technically the class *is* created at the point `__init_subclass__` is
called. What the metaclass does after that point is embellishment.
Most metaclasses will have sufficient control for their needs because they
can manipulate the contents of the namespace that's
On 12/29/20 8:59 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 10:24 PM Ethan Furman wrote:
The `__init_subclass__` and `__set_name__` protocols are intended to be run
before a new type is finished, but creating
a new type has three major steps:
- `__prepare__` to get the namespace
- `
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 14:27:00 +0100
Ronald Oussoren via Python-Dev wrote:
> > On 28 Dec 2020, at 14:00, Inada Naoki wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 8:52 PM Phil Thompson
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I would have thought that an object was defined by its behaviour rather
> >> than by any
On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 10:24 PM Ethan Furman wrote:
> On 12/28/20 9:31 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
>
> > Let me see if I can unpack this.
> >
> > I observe that `type.__new__() ` is really the C function `type_new()`
> in typeobject.c, and hence I will refer to it by
> > that name.
> >
> > I und
On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 7:22 PM Phil Thompson
wrote:
>
> > So I'm +1 to make Unicode simple by removing PyUnicode_READY(), and -1
> > to make Unicode complicated by adding customizable callback for lazy
> > population.
> >
> > Anyway, I am OK to un-deprecate PyUnicode_READY() and make it no-op
> >