> On 9 Jun 2021, at 12:28, Inada Naoki wrote:
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> I think stable ABI keeps symbols, signatures, and memory layouts.
> I don't think stable ABI keeps all behaviors.
As often “it depends”. Behaviour is IMHO part of the API/ABI contract. That
said, that does not necessarily mean that we canno
On 09. 06. 21 13:09, Paul Moore wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 11:36, Inada Naoki wrote:
If I am wrong, can we stop keeping stable ABI at Python 3.12?
Python 4.0 won't come in foreseeable future. Stable ABI blocks Python evolution.
Conversely, the stable ABI allows projects to build cross-versi
On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 11:36, Inada Naoki wrote:
> If I am wrong, can we stop keeping stable ABI at Python 3.12?
> Python 4.0 won't come in foreseeable future. Stable ABI blocks Python
> evolution.
Conversely, the stable ABI allows projects to build cross-version
binary wheels. Not many projects
I think stable ABI keeps symbols, signatures, and memory layouts.
I don't think stable ABI keeps all behaviors.
For example, Py_CompileString() is stable ABI.
When we add `async` keyword, Py_CompileString() starts raising an
Error for source code using `async` name.
Is it ABI change? I don't think
> On 9 Jun 2021, at 11:13, Victor Stinner wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 10:32 AM Ronald Oussoren via Python-Dev
> wrote:
>> Its a bit late to complain (and I’m not affected by this myself), but those
>> functions are part of the stable ABI. The change in 3.10 will break any
>> extensions
On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 10:32 AM Ronald Oussoren via Python-Dev
wrote:
> Its a bit late to complain (and I’m not affected by this myself), but those
> functions are part of the stable ABI. The change in 3.10 will break any
> extensions that use the stable ABI, use these functions and don’t use
>
> On 7 Jun 2021, at 05:05, Inada Naoki wrote:
>
> Hi, folks,
>
> Since Python 3.8, PyArg_Parse*() APIs and Py_BuildValue() APIs emitted
> DeprecationWarning when
> '#' format is used without PY_SSIZE_T_CLEAN defined.
> In Python 3.10, they raise a RuntimeError, not a warning. Extension
> modul
