On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 11:01:32AM -0800, Richard Levasseur wrote:
> Should the stdlib have e.g. SortedList? Probably not, because the use cases
> of such data types are too niche to a one-size-fits-all implementation, and
> there are too many implementations with too many of their own settings.
>
Woops, wrong list -- please disregard.
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~Ethan~
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On 11/11/21 11:53 AM, Matt del Valle wrote:
> Okay, so from the replies so far it looks like this is very quickly going
into the 'never gonna happen'
> dumpster, so in the interests of salvaging *something* out of it:
[...]
> I just dislike having to settle for 'it's what we've got'. With thes
On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 11:22 AM Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 11:01:32 -0800
> Richard Levasseur wrote:
> >
> > In the end, it was a fun exercise, but in practice a dictionary and
> > sorted() got me 90% of the way there and sufficed. Optimizing that last
> 10%
> > wasn't worth th
[Christopher Barker ]
> Earlier in the thread, we were pointed to multiple implementations.
>
> Is this particular one clearly the “best”[*]?
>
> If so, then sure.
>
> -CHB
>
> [*] best meaning “most appropriate for the stdlib”. A couple folks have
> already pointed to the quality of the code. But
On 11/9/21 9:02 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 10:29 PM Ethan Furman wrote:
>> The way I see it, the following should hold
>>
>> empty_flag = RegexFlag(0)
>> any_case = RegexFlag.IGNORECASE
>> any_case_on_any_line = RegexFlag.IGNORECASE | RegexF
On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 12:39:50 +
Bob Fang wrote:
> > But if anyone wants to argue the "the stdlib should be shrinking, not
> > growing" position, I suggest they do so *before* someone reaches out
> > to the module author. No point in us making the suggestion and then
> > being forced to withdraw
On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 20:58:29 +
Bob Fang wrote:
> Just want to mention that we do have this nice website to look at, although I
> am not sure how up to date it is:
>
> https://www.wheelodex.org/projects/sortedcontainers/rdepends/?page=1
Wow, thank you, that is very nice!
Best regards
Antoi
Just want to mention that we do have this nice website to look at, although I
am not sure how up to date it is:
https://www.wheelodex.org/projects/sortedcontainers/rdepends/?page=1
> On 11 Nov 2021, at 19:20, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, PyPI doesn't seem to offer a way to query th
I'll join Christopher Barker and Chris Angelico in voicing scepticism --
personally, I feel like I'm yet to be persuaded that the use case is strong
enough. sortedcontainers is a wonderful package, and I would completely
support a prominent link to the library in the Python documentation. But
the u
> But if anyone wants to argue the "the stdlib should be shrinking, not
> growing" position, I suggest they do so *before* someone reaches out
> to the module author. No point in us making the suggestion and then
> being forced to withdraw it.
So I suppose we can take a poll on this? If majority o
sortedcontainers looks great!
I very much appreciate it if such well-done library have type hints
(embedded or at least in form of types-sortedcontainers pypi package).
>From my experience of multidict library support, it is not a super-hard
challenge but something that needs attention and time re
On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 11:01:32 -0800
Richard Levasseur wrote:
>
> In the end, it was a fun exercise, but in practice a dictionary and
> sorted() got me 90% of the way there and sufficed. Optimizing that last 10%
> wasn't worth the effort.
>
> Anyways, I came to two particular, IMHO, conclusions:
>
On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 4:30 AM Paul Moore wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 at 11:51, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 21:12:17 -0600
> > Tim Peters wrote:
> > > [Bob Fang ]
> > > > This is a modest proposal to consider having sorted containers
> > > > (http://www.grantjenks.com/do
Serhiy Storchaka wrote:
> From my C++ and Java experience, hashtable-based containers are much
> more useful than tree-based containers. They are more compact and fast.
> In most cases the only reason of using sorted container is supporting
> deterministic iteration order, but often it is enough to
Earlier in the thread, we were pointed to multiple implementations.
Is this particular one clearly the “best”[*]?
If so, then sure.
-CHB
[*] best meaning “most appropriate for the stdlib”. A couple folks have
already pointed to the quality of the code. But my understanding is that
different alg
Yes please. Long overdue.
On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 4:38 AM Victor Stinner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The asyncore module is a very old module of the Python stdlib for
> asynchronous programming, usually to handle network sockets
> concurrently. It's a common event loop, but its design has many flaws.
>
> T
Hi,
The asyncore module is a very old module of the Python stdlib for
asynchronous programming, usually to handle network sockets
concurrently. It's a common event loop, but its design has many flaws.
The asyncio module was added to Python 3.4 with a well designed
architecture. Twisted developers
On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 at 11:51, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 21:12:17 -0600
> Tim Peters wrote:
> > [Bob Fang ]
> > > This is a modest proposal to consider having sorted containers
> > > (http://www.grantjenks.com/docs/sortedcontainers/) in standard library.
> >
> > +1 from me, but
On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 21:12:17 -0600
Tim Peters wrote:
> [Bob Fang ]
> > This is a modest proposal to consider having sorted containers
> > (http://www.grantjenks.com/docs/sortedcontainers/) in standard library.
>
> +1 from me, but if and only if Grant Jenks (its author) wants that too.
>
> It's
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