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That's what I use try/except for. ;-)
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On Tue, Jul 05, 2005, Martin v. L?wis wrote:
Aahz wrote:
Martin removed the attribution here:
I was trying to compile a python plugin (for gimp) using the MSYS
shell and the MINGW compiler.
python-dev is the wrong place for this question
Actually, it isn't - he is really asking what
Nothing to say, just keep up the good work! I hope the triple-team
approach is still working well.
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as, xrange objects are iterable.
How about decimal.Context() objects are managed resources or ...have
guarded scopes? (I'm not terribly wild about either, but they are
fairly simple and direct.)
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that this isn't going to be a real PEP any time soon, please
restrict the discussion to comp.lang.python. Thanks for your help
keeping python-dev clutter-free. ;-)
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post a patch. It passes the smell test of
not being horribly unPythonic, if that's what you want to know. Note
that you're likely to be required to add a new function with this
feature, but that can be argued later.
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rounding mode in the
Decimal docs? Or the sprints burned my head?
My suspicion is that someone at some point thought that Cowlishaw was
sufficient; we probably should write some base-level docs that explain
the Python mechanisms and refer to Cowlishaw for details.
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. How about this for a change?
class grouping:
def __init__(self, .x, .y, .z):
pass
This is off-topic for python-dev. Please take it to comp.lang.python.
(It's not immediately obvious that this is off-topic, I know, but please
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2.2 -- but I'm always happy to see inconsistencies resolved)
I'll guess that Raymond will probably want 2.5 to have set.union_update()
get a PendingDeprecationWarning.
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On Tue, Jun 28, 2005, lode leroy wrote:
I was trying to compile a python plugin (for gimp) using the MSYS
shell and the MINGW compiler.
python-dev is the wrong place for this question; please start with
comp.lang.python (or find another suitable place).
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(and sorry for my english but it's not my mother tongue)
Welcome! Your English is just fine. If you haven't yet, take a look at
http://www.python.org/dev/
Pay particular attention to Why Develop Python? and Intro to
Development.
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it.
...and document and maintain it. That's always been the sticky part,
along with the requirement that this degrade gracefully when the
platform-specific code doesn't exist.
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On Sat, Jun 18, 2005, Gustavo Niemeyer wrote:
PyPI seems to be out of space:
FYI, python-dev is not a good place to send messages like this. Please
use [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I've already notified the appropriate
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need, but there
are still a couple of details that I haven't been able to solve.
Hi Veronica,
python-dev is for future development of Python; for questions about
using Python, please go to comp.lang.python. Thanks.
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on python-dev, there's a broader spectrum on c.l.py.
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with every operation. It was a critical design
criterion for Python that this be legal::
x = Decimal('1.2')
y = Decimal('1.4')
x*y
Decimal(1.68)
IOW, constructing Decimal instances might be a bit painful, but *using*
them would be utterly simple.
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should do. Overall, my sentiments are with Tim that we should fix this,
but my suspicion is that it probably doesn't matter much.
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of staving off responses from multiple
people: I don't think these should be double-underscore attributes. The
currently undocumented ``args`` attribute isn't double-underscore, and I
think that's precedent to be followed.
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of the exception class
concerned.
Sounds reasonable, but it should be equally easy to handle::
raise MyError, message
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don't think that
it's *all* a PEP 310 influence on the examples.
Yes, that's why I've been pushing for with.
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It's 106 miles to Chicago. We have a full tank of gas, a half-pack of
cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing
the options this way? ;-) I'm mainly
responding to deliver my vote against option 3; I don't care much about
the other possibilities.
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It's 106 miles to Chicago. We have a full tank of gas, a half-pack of
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whether your thunks are lexical (I haven't been
following the discussion closely). If it's not lexical, how do locals
get handled without cells?
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It's 106 miles to Chicago. We have a full tank of gas, a half-pack
be able to tell which
construct we're using at the beginning of the line.
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It's 106 miles to Chicago. We have a full tank of gas, a half-pack of
cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses. Hit
it?
opening(foo) as f:
# etc.
I'm still -1 for the same reason I mentioned earlier: function calls
spanning multiple lines are moderately common in Python code, and it's
hard to distinguish these cases because multi-line calls usually get
indented like blocks.
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On Fri, Apr 29, 2005, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
At 10:42 AM 4/29/05 -0700, Aahz wrote:
On Fri, Apr 29, 2005, Guido van Rossum wrote:
[Phillip J. Eby]
Although I'd personally prefer a no-keyword approach:
synchronized(self):
with_file(foo) as f:
# etc.
I'd like
his opinion, this is
precisely why the non-keyword version will continue to receive -1 from
me. (As it happens, I agree with Guido, so if Guido wants to change,
I'll probably argue until I see good reason. ;-)
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It's 106
for these
constructs makes it easier to read the code. You'll soon start to gloss
over the ``with`` but it will be there as a marker for your subconscious.
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It's 106 miles to Chicago. We have a full tank of gas, a half-pack
, blockLocals
return iterfaceType(interfaceName, bases, blockLocals)
IFoo = interface('IFoo'):
def isFoo(self): pass
Where does ``aBlock`` come from?
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did,
although it was related more to the precise mechanics of raising and
catching exceptions. Perhaps I'll submit a doc bug; I didn't find this
explained in _Learning Python_ or Nutshell...)
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It's 106 miles to Chicago. We
``for`` and ``if``, the resource block *should* have a
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The joy of coding Python should be in seeing short, concise, readable
classes that express a lot of action in a small amount of clear code --
not in reams of trivial code that bores
. To the extent that Python has an
antithesis, it would be either C++ or Perl. Ruby is antithetical to some
of Python's core ideology because it borrows from Perl, but Ruby is much
more similar to Python than Perl is.
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questions. Thank you.
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The joy of coding Python should be in seeing short, concise, readable
classes that express a lot of action in a small amount of clear code --
not in reams of trivial code that bores the reader to death
readers (the bit that triggered this comment was
seeing the unified vs. context diffs thread so far down).
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classes that express a lot of action in a small
than creating a new one?
(I don't have a strong opinion either way, but I'd like some reasoning;
Jack's approach at least doesn't break code.) Especially if the new
exception isn't public (in the builtins with other exceptions).
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On Wed, Mar 23, 2005, Herman Toothrot wrote:
Avast! Why be there builtins divmod and pow, when operators **, /, and %
should be good enough for ya? It runs counter to TOOWTDI, I be thinking.
Arr.
This is off-topic for python-dev. Please post to comp.lang.python
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will no doubt agree with me: the semantics don't matter.
NEVER, NEVER access the same file object from multiple threads, unless
you're using a lock. And even using a lock is stupid.
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The joy of coding Python should be in seeing
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005, Tim Peters wrote:
I think Aahz was on target here:
NEVER, NEVER access the same file object from multiple threads, unless
you're using a lock.
And here he went overboard:
And even using a lock is stupid.
ZODB's FileStorage is bristling with locks
the connection. I believe the
problem is the firewall, but I'm not sure if it is related to the
install. The previous install (Python 2.3) worked fine.
http://www.python.org/2.4/bugs.html
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, but then let's keep reduce(), which has this nice property.
-1
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you have to actually code for
three different problems in two major versions. Sehr schlecht.
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The joy of coding Python should be in seeing short, concise, readable
classes that express a lot of action in a small amount
knowledge...
Functionally speaking, Python has only major releases and micro
releases. We don't have the resources to support minor releases.
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classes
OrderedDict to stdlib, but it's another use case. Each dict key
contains a dict value; the subkeys from later-added keys are supposed to
override earlier subkeys. The original implementation relied on subkeys
being unique, but that doesn't work for our new business requirements.)
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On Wed, Mar 09, 2005, Raymond Hettinger wrote:
[Aahz]
Gee, I just found out I could have used an OrderedDict today. (We're
using a dict that we're now having to add an auxilliary list to to track
when keys are added.) (This isn't particularly an argument in favor of
adding OrderedDict
1.5.1? I'm a bit embarassed that Python 2.4's optparse has __version__
== 1.5a2 because I didn't release Optik 1.5 in time.
-1, sorry
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if you (or anyone) really wants me to.
Otherwise, I'd rather leave it as-is and go fix more bugs.
Please revert. I've spent more time than I'd like dealing with the
introduction of booleans in Python 2.2, and helping other people avoid
similar problems seems like a Good Thing to me.
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Both entries so far look very good. Perhaps writing python-dev summaries
could be a rotating position?
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On Fri, Mar 04, 2005, John J Lee wrote:
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Aahz wrote:
Both entries so far look very good. Perhaps writing python-dev summaries
could be a rotating position?
Or even a joint effort? It's up to the contributors, of course: just
a thought...
That was my original thought
/dev_intro.html
Another thing: I don't know whether you'll get this in direct e-mail;
it's considered a bit rude for python-dev to use munged addresses.
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how often, but I was working on some code at my company yesterday
that did that -- we use a lot of ints to indicate options.
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review
idea. Can someone make sure that's explained on the /dev/ site?
This should go into Brett's survey of the Python dev process, not as
official documentation. It's simply an offer made by some of the
prominent members of python-dev.
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get contrib agreements from all CVS committers.
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Given that C++ has pointers and typecasts, it's really hard to have a serious
conversation about type safety with a C++ programmer and keep a straight face.
It's kind of like having a guy who juggles chainsaws wearing body armor
. Thanks!
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Given that C++ has pointers and typecasts, it's really hard to have a serious
conversation about type safety with a C++ programmer and keep a straight face.
It's kind of like having a guy who juggles chainsaws
, junk = time.localtime()
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in 2.4.0 to marshal an object in the
old version format as a string -- you'd have to work around by writing a real
file and reading it back :-(
Brown bag time?
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of these sound
like critical bugs to me.
You don't think a blowup in marshal is critical? Mind expanding on
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, and then later figure out an
attractive design and organization for a new site.
suggested hostname: why.python.org
This is where the process always gets bogged down. :-( Once we have
material, that's the time to start arguing about where it should go.
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