Re: [Python-Dev] Issue 14417: consequences of new dict runtime error

2012-04-01 Thread Etienne Robillard
On 03/30/2012 03:25 PM, R. David Murray wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:13:36 -0400, Etienne Robillardanimelo...@gmail.com wrote: So far I was only attempting to verify whether this is related to PEP-416 or not. If this is indeed related PEP 416, then I must obviously attest that I must still

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue 14417: consequences of new dict runtime error

2012-03-31 Thread Etienne Robillard
The frozendict builtin type was rejected, but we are going to add types.MappingProxyType: see issue #14386. types.MappingProxyType(mydict.copy()) is very close to the frozendict builtin type. Victor Thanks, Victor. :) Will this mean the new dict subclass for CPython will not expose

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue 14417: consequences of new dict runtime error

2012-03-30 Thread Etienne Robillard
On 03/29/2012 06:07 PM, R. David Murray wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:00:20 +0200, Stefan Behnelstefan...@behnel.de wrote: R. David Murray, 29.03.2012 22:31: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:09:17 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:58 PM, R. David Murray wrote: Some of us have

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue 14417: consequences of new dict runtime error

2012-03-30 Thread Etienne Robillard
, Etienne Robillard wrote: On 03/29/2012 06:07 PM, R. David Murray wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:00:20 +0200, Stefan Behnelstefan...@behnel.de wrote: R. David Murray, 29.03.2012 22:31: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:09:17 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue 14417: consequences of new dict runtime error

2012-03-30 Thread Etienne Robillard
understand the issue at hand? --Guido On Friday, March 30, 2012, Etienne Robillard wrote: On 03/29/2012 06:07 PM, R. David Murray wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:00:20 +0200, Stefan Behnelstefan...@behnel.de wrote: R. David Murray, 29.03.2012 22:31

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue 14417: consequences of new dict runtime error

2012-03-30 Thread Etienne Robillard
probably related to pep-416 refusal. Cheers! Etienne On 03/30/2012 11:54 AM, Stefan Behnel wrote: Etienne Robillard, 30.03.2012 17:45: Sorry also if this is OT... :) Yes, it is. Please do as Nick told you. Stefan ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue 14417: consequences of new dict runtime error

2012-03-30 Thread Etienne Robillard
your reasoning is pathetic at best. i pass... Thanks for the tip :-) Cheers, Etienne On 03/30/2012 12:18 PM, Stefan Behnel wrote: Etienne Robillard, 30.03.2012 18:08: are you also truth allergic or irritated by the consequences of free speech ? Please note that free speech is a concept

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue 14417: consequences of new dict runtime error

2012-03-30 Thread Etienne Robillard
On 03/30/2012 02:23 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: Etienne Robillard wrote: your reasoning is pathetic at best. i pass... Thanks for the tip :-) The Python Developer list is for the discussion of developing Python, not for teaching basic programming. You are being rude, and a smiley does not make

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue 14417: consequences of new dict runtime error

2012-03-30 Thread Etienne Robillard
On 03/30/2012 03:02 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: Hey Etienne, I am honestly trying to understand your contribution but you seem to have started a discussion about free speech. Trust me that we don't mind your contributions, we're just trying to understand what you're saying, and the free speech

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue 14417: consequences of new dict runtime error

2012-03-30 Thread Etienne Robillard
On 03/30/2012 03:27 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Etienne Robillard animelo...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/30/2012 03:02 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: Hey Etienne, I am honestly trying to understand your contribution but you seem to have started a discussion about

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue 14417: consequences of new dict runtime error

2012-03-29 Thread Etienne Robillard
On 03/29/2012 04:48 PM, R. David Murray wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:31:03 -0400, R. David Murrayrdmur...@bitdance.com wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:09:17 -0700, Guido van Rossumgu...@python.org wrote: My original assessment was that this only affects dicts whose keys have a

Re: [Python-Dev] New PEP

2012-03-21 Thread Etienne Robillard
On 03/21/2012 07:39 PM, Huan Do wrote: *Hi, I am a graduating Berkeley student that loves python and would like to propose an enhancement to python. My proposal introduces a concept of slicing generator. For instance, if one does x[:] it returns a list which is a copy of x. Sometimes