Re: [Python-Dev] requirements for moving __import__ over to importlib?

2012-02-09 Thread Mike Meyer
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 14:19:59 -0500 Brett Cannon wrote: > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 13:43, PJ Eby wrote: > > Again, the goal is fast startup of command-line tools that only use a > > small subset of the overall framework; doing disk access for lazy imports > > goes against that goal. > > > Depends if

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 408 -- Standard library __preview__ package

2012-01-28 Thread Mike Meyer
Antoine Pitrou wrote: >Le samedi 28 janvier 2012 à 10:46 -0800, Mike Meyer a écrit : >> Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> >You will see people copying recipes found on the internet without >> >knowing that they rely on unstable APIs. >> >> How. About doing them

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 408 -- Standard library __preview__ package

2012-01-28 Thread Mike Meyer
Antoine Pitrou wrote: >On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:14:36 -0500 >Barry Warsaw wrote: >> On Jan 28, 2012, at 09:15 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: >> >> >So I do not support the __preview__ package. I think we're better >off >> >flagging experimental modules in the docs than in their name. For >the >> >sp

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposed PEP on concurrent programming support

2012-01-11 Thread Mike Meyer
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 00:07:27 -0500 PJ Eby wrote: > On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Mike Meyer wrote: > > A suite is marked > > as a `transaction`, and then when an unlocked object is modified, > > instead of indicating an error, a locked copy of it is created to be > &g

Re: [Python-Dev] A question about the subprocess implementation

2012-01-07 Thread Mike Meyer
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 02:06:33 + (UTC) Vinay Sajip wrote: > Mike Meyer mired.org> writes: > > > Since the only reason they exist is so you can access your end of a > > pipe, setting them to anything would seem to be a bug. I'd argue that > > their existence is

Re: [Python-Dev] A question about the subprocess implementation

2012-01-07 Thread Mike Meyer
On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 21:25:37 + (UTC) Vinay Sajip wrote: > The subprocess.Popen constructor takes stdin, stdout and stderr keyword > arguments which are supposed to represent the file handles of the child > process. > The object also has stdin, stdout and stderr attributes, which one would >

[Python-Dev] Proposed PEP on concurrent programming support

2012-01-03 Thread Mike Meyer
PEP: XXX Title: Interpreter support for concurrent programming Version: $Revision$ Last-Modified: $Date$ Author: Mike Meyer Status: Draft Type: Informational Content-Type: text/x-rst Created: 11-Nov-2011 Post-History: Abstract The purpose of this PEP is to explore strategies for

Re: [Python-Dev] Anyone still using Python 2.5?

2011-12-21 Thread Mike Meyer
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:49:37 + Michael Foord wrote: > These figures can't possibly be true. No-one is using Python 3 yet. ;-) Since you brought it up. Is anyone paying people (or trying to hire people) to write Python 3? Thanks, http://www.mired.org/ Independent

Re: [Python-Dev] [PATCH] Adding braces to __future__

2011-12-09 Thread Mike Meyer
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 21:26:29 +0100 Cedric Sodhi wrote: > Readable code, is it really an advantage? > Of course it is. Ok, you got that right. > Forcing the programmer to write readable code, is that an advantage? > No suspense, the answer is Of course not. This is *not* an "Of course". Readable

Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing the XML batteries

2011-12-09 Thread Mike Meyer
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 09:02:35 +0100 Stefan Behnel wrote: > a) The stdlib documentation should help users to choose the right > tool right from the start. > b) cElementTree should finally loose it's "special" status as a > separate library and disappear as an accelerator module behind > ElementTree

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] Reminder: last alphas next Wednesday 07-May-2008

2008-05-06 Thread Mike Meyer
On Fri, 02 May 2008 00:03:24 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 11:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >I like this, except one issue: I really don't like the .local > >directory. I don't see any compelling reason why this needs to be > >~/.local/lib/ -- IMO it should just be ~/lib/. There's no nee

Re: [Python-Dev] Python XML Validator

2008-03-11 Thread Mike Meyer
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:55:04 +0100 Stefan Behnel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (weird places these threads come up at, but now that it's here...) > Mike Meyer wrote: > > On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:44:32 -0800 Ned Deily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> In article

Re: [Python-Dev] Python XML Validator

2008-03-05 Thread Mike Meyer
On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:01:14 +1300 Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > Trying to install it from the repository is a PITA, because > > it uses both the easyinstall and Pyrex > > It shouldn't depend on Pyrex as long as it's distrib

Re: [Python-Dev] Python XML Validator

2008-03-05 Thread Mike Meyer
On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:44:32 -0800 Ned Deily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:42:49 + (UTC) Medhat Gayed > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > l

Re: [Python-Dev] Python XML Validator

2008-03-04 Thread Mike Meyer
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:42:49 + (UTC) Medhat Gayed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > lxml is good but not written in python and difficult to install and didn't > work > on MacOS X. lxml is built on top of libxml2/libxslt, which are bundled with most Unix-like OS's (including Mac OS X), or available

Re: [Python-Dev] [OT] Re: getpass and stdin

2008-02-26 Thread Mike Meyer
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:32:03 -0500 "Leif Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1) I am willing to type in the password, which is obvious to anyone who > > can read a simple script. That just doesn't work for a program you w

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r60919 - peps/trunk/pep-0008.txt

2008-02-23 Thread Mike Meyer
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:53:48 -0500 Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: now is > In 50 years, our grandchildren will be writing code with brain > implants and displays burned right into their retina, and they'll / > still/ be subject to 79 characters. I laugh every time I think that > the