Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Add optional *func* argument to itertools.accumulate().

2011-03-28 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
an accumulate tool which takes arbitrary > functions. > Thanks. I had not been thinking along numeric lines. I can see how these would be useful for working with matrices, vectors, and similar constructs. -- Daniel Stutzbach ___ Python-Dev mailing

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Add optional *func* argument to itertools.accumulate().

2011-03-28 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Daniel Stutzbach > wrote: > > Is there a good use-case for the func argument? > > The examples that Raymond gives in the docs (cumulative > multiplication, running min/max, cash fl

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Add optional *func* argument to itertools.accumulate().

2011-03-27 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
analogous to adding a func argument to sum(), which would give it all of the power of reduce(). -- Daniel Stutzbach ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.or

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (2.7): Issue 10787: Document the probability density function for random.gammavariate.

2011-03-22 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
--- > + math.gamma(alpha) * beta ** alpha > + > """ > > # alpha > 0, beta > 0, mean is alpha*beta, variance is > alpha*beta**2 > > -- > Re

Re: [Python-Dev] Hg: inter-branch workflow

2011-03-22 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
hile ago I came across the following nice tool that puts these intermediate commits in a side branch (that can later be abandoned) so they never show up in the main history: https://github.com/bartman/git-wip I imagine something similar could be written for hg. -- Daniel Stutzbach

Re: [Python-Dev] Hg: inter-branch workflow

2011-03-21 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
me? > People love it because it's a very powerful tool. People hate it because it allows you to shoot yourself in the foot. -- Daniel Stutzbach ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] I am now lost - committed, pulled, merged, what is "collapse"?

2011-03-21 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
The equivalent way to how we had been using svnmerge would be to use hg transplant to move patches between branches (and never merging the branches). Conversely, the current hg workflow would be similar to committing changes to the earliest applicable svn branch, then doing a full svnmerge to lat

Re: [Python-Dev] Python3 regret about deleting list.sort(cmp=...)

2011-03-13 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
(q for p, q in fractions)**2' 'sorted(fractions, key=lambda t: t[0]*max_denominator_sq//t[1])' 100 loops, best of 3: 3.73 msec per loop -- Daniel Stutzbach ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Python3 regret about deleting list.sort(cmp=...)

2011-03-13 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
by the integer biglist.sort(key=lambda s: s.split(',')[0]) # Sort by the shortstring I think the use cases are pretty narrow where there's plenty of memory for storing the list but not enough to store two copies. -- Daniel Stutzbach _

Re: [Python-Dev] hg diff

2011-03-09 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
ental-branch git diff master...experimental-branch The idea is to pull their remote branch but not merge it, which will create multiple heads locally. Then find the common ancestor of my regular local head and the new head, and diff the ancestor with the new head.

Re: [Python-Dev] hg diff

2011-03-08 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
o it in hg. I know it's easy in git; I assume it's easy in hg. I did some searching but was unable to come up with the right incantation. -- Daniel Stutzbach ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.o

Re: [Python-Dev] hg diff

2011-03-07 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
if they have addressed your earlier comments or not. You can also just tweak a few things and push the changes back to them. They can easily merge your changes with any changes they've made in the meantime (which is hard to do if you're push

Re: [Python-Dev] .hgignore (was: Mercurial conversion repositories)

2011-03-05 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
that > shouldn't be tracked. > If the goal is to prevent something from being committed, shouldn't the check go in a pre-commit hook instead? -- Daniel Stutzbach ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mail

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] hooks: Fix checkbranch hook

2011-02-27 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
concern is that people may create named branches locally > as part of their own workflow, then mistakenly push those branches > instead of collapsing back to a single commit against the relevant > line of development. > +1 -- Daniel Stutzbach __

Re: [Python-Dev] of branches and heads

2011-02-27 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
that name. So you can't create > > two disconnected subgraphs whose nodes have the same branch > > name. > > That's not completely correct. You *can* do that. > Can we create a hook on the server to reject changesets like that? -- Daniel Stutzbach

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial conversion repositories

2011-02-26 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
ver" are a matter of perspective. I spent some time on Friday setting up hg-git on my workstation and making a few test commits. It took me awhile to figure out how to get everything working, but it seems to work smoothly now. At some point I'll update http://wiki.python.org/moin/Git

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial conversion repositories

2011-02-26 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
ng (similar to Bazaar), bookmarks (similar to git), and named branches. So a named branch can contain more than one branch. Were there reasons for going with named branches over bookmarks? PEP 385 discusses only cloning and named branches. I'm just curious, not trying

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial conversion repositories

2011-02-26 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Le samedi 26 février 2011 à 08:38 -0800, Daniel Stutzbach a écrit : > > Can we just get rid of "trunk" altogether? It's history is a strict > > subset of the 2.7 branch's history, isn't it? > &g

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial conversion repositories

2011-02-26 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
of "trunk" altogether? It's history is a strict subset of the 2.7 branch's history, isn't it? -- Daniel Stutzbach ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-14 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
u have the skills and experience so that designing a async API is not as hard for you, please run with it. :-) Personally, I would love to see asyncore deprecated in favor of something better. -- Daniel Stutzbach ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@p

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-12 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
cussion before PyCon 2009, but not much came of it: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2009-March/086678.html -- Daniel Stutzbach ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: ht

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-11 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Daniel Stutzbach wrote: > > I propose that in Python 3.3 we rename asyncore to barrel_of_monkeys. > > Would that be a Mapping or a Sequence? Before or after monkey-patching? :-) -- D

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88395 - python/branches/py3k/Lib/asyncore.py

2011-02-11 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > > And finally remember that asyncore is the most monkey-patched module > in the world. :-) I propose that in Python 3.3 we rename asyncore to barrel_of_monkeys. -- Daniel

Re: [Python-Dev] FYI: Python 2.7.1 + gcc 4.6 (experimental) probable optimizer problem

2011-01-11 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
-fwrapv -O3 -Wall > -Wstrict-prototypes' ./python -E ./setup.py build > make: *** [sharedmods] Error 139 Does that version of gcc emit any warnings during compilation? -- Daniel Stutzbach ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r87903 - python/branches/py3k/Doc/whatsnew/3.2.rst

2011-01-11 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
== > --- python/branches/py3k/Doc/whatsnew/3.2.rst (original) > +++ python/branches/py3k/Doc/whatsnew/3.2.rst Mon Jan 10 22:26:49 2011 > @@ -553,7 +553,7 @@ > >>> range(0, 100, 2)[0:5] > range(0, 10, 2) > > - (Contributed by Daniel Stutzback in

Re: [Python-Dev] Possible optimization for LOAD_FAST ?

2011-01-04 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
kup. That way > the code remains the same no matter if the dict has changed or not. > I have had similar ideas in the past but have never found time to explore them. The same mechanism could also be used to speed up attribute access on objects. -- Daniel Stutzbach

Re: [Python-Dev] Can't compile regex module with Python 3.2

2010-12-09 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
Do you have an old unicodeobject.h somehow? -- Daniel Stutzbach ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

[Python-Dev] I/O ABCs

2010-11-30 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
d by .read(). [4]: http://www.google.com/codesearch?hl=en&sa=N&q=BufferedIOBase++lang:python&ct=rr&cs_r=lang:python -- Daniel Stutzbach ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] Continuing 2.x

2010-10-27 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
ercurial, so svnmerge would not be helpful for much longer. On the plus side, since Mercurial is a Distributed Version Control System, if you setup an unofficial continuation of Python 2 on the host of your choice, it will be easy for you to pull patches from py3k. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. Presiden

Re: [Python-Dev] Continuing 2.x

2010-10-27 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
2010/10/27 Kristján Valur Jónsson > Svn.python.org already plays host to some other, less official, projects > such as stackless, so why not this? > What are the benefits of hosting such a project on svn.python.org instead of somewhere else? (such as GitHub or BitBucket) -- Daniel

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r85486 - python/branches/py3k/configure

2010-10-14 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:38 PM, barry.warsaw wrote: > -# Generated by GNU Autoconf 2.65 for python 3.2. > +# Generated by GNU Autoconf 2.67 for python 3.2. > Was the change in autoconf versions intentional and/or is it a problem? -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach En

Re: [Python-Dev] Distutils2 scripts

2010-10-11 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
en Wensleydale. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com/> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailma

Re: [Python-Dev] Rietveld integration into Roundup

2010-10-03 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 3:55 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > I'll have to come up with a better way to determine the branch > which a patch was created on. > That would also be helpful for those of us using DVCS software to talk to the svn server. :-) -- Daniel St

Re: [Python-Dev] We should be using a tool for code reviews

2010-09-30 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
7;s review/patch ratio? (in descending order) Obviously there would be many non-trivial details to work out. I'm just brainstorming. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com/> ___ Pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] We should be using a tool for code reviews

2010-09-30 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
ast tolerate ;) ) additional review of their code. The hard part is encouraging contributors to find the time and motivation to thoroughly review code that they aren't personally interested in (and perhaps not even familiar with). -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enter

Re: [Python-Dev] API for binary operations on Sets

2010-09-30 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
index tuple, range, and str types all register as following the Sequence ABC. list and bytearray types register as following the MutableSequence ABC, which is a subclass of the Sequence ABC. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterp

Re: [Python-Dev] Atlassian and bitbucket merge

2010-09-29 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
ed service and then runs hooks. Obviously, it would not be possible to write hooks that reject changesets, but it would be possible to write hooks that send email or notify buildbots. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http

Re: [Python-Dev] We should be using a tool for code reviews

2010-09-29 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
out the base revision for the patch. How about the opposite approach: make a Python-specific version of upload.py that lets the user attach the patch to an issue with an optional message? -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com/> _

Re: [Python-Dev] PyObject_GC_UnTrack() no longer reliable in 2.7?

2010-09-24 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
o automatic > tracking/untracking based on contents would use some other > new API (which would be non-public in 2.7.x). > Where would the extra state information be stored? (to distinguish untracked and untracked-and-keep-it-that-way) -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, S

Re: [Python-Dev] Garbage announcement printed on interpreter shutdown

2010-09-10 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
ature. -1 on removing the feature -0 on making it disabled by default [1] I know that some large, long-running programs periodically check gc.garbage and carefully choose where to break cycles, but those are the exception and not the rule. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprise

Re: [Python-Dev] new LRU cache API in Py3.2

2010-09-04 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
larger query, plus there are multiple functions that want to talk to the cache. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.o

Re: [Python-Dev] r84430 - in python/branches/py3k: Include/unicodeobject.h Objects/unicodeobject.c

2010-09-03 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Victor Stinner wrote: > But I didn't found any doc for other Py_UNICODE_str*() > functions in Doc/c-api/*.rst. > http://bugs.python.org/issue8649 - Py_UNICODE_* functions are undocumented -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterpri

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 384 status

2010-08-31 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
same version of the C library. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http:

Re: [Python-Dev] Shared Folders Under Vista

2010-08-22 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
XP/Cygwin system and did not see the shared folder icon in Explorer. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/lis

Re: [Python-Dev] Request for commits and/or privileges

2010-08-21 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:47 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > Please send me your SSH key. Done. I have also subscribed to python-committers and python-checkins. I will add my interests to Misc/maintainers.rst. Are there any other initial start-up tasks I should perform? -- Dan

Re: [Python-Dev] Request for commits and/or privileges

2010-08-21 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
sets or set ABCs unless you have signed off on it in some way. Perhaps in time there will be some piece of Python that I've modified so heavily that I become ipso facto the primary maintainer, but I'm in no hurry. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stut

[Python-Dev] Request for commits and/or privileges

2010-08-20 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
y inline except using MSC http://bugs.python.org/issue2521 - ABC caches should use weak refs http://bugs.python.org/issue808164 - socket.close() doesn't play well with __del__ Many more in the pipeline :-) -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC

Re: [Python-Dev] cProfile and threads

2010-08-17 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
ential if you > want to take a profililng snapshot of a running application. > +1 -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://m

Re: [Python-Dev] versioned .so files for Python 3.2

2010-07-16 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-June/100583.html On the flip side, a fully enumerated ABI signature could be used to identify (in)compatible binary eggs, which is basically impossible now. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial migration readiness

2010-07-03 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
hat repository: > > $ hg clone pytrunk-upstream pytrunk-work > $ ./configure && make > My question is basically the same as Terry Reedy's, but I'm going to phrase it a bit differently: This is perhaps a naive question, but why do you create a second local clone

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial migration readiness (was: Taking over the Mercurial Migration)

2010-07-01 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
erver, but I'm told it can work the other way around with a bit of work. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/m

Re: [Python-Dev] versioned .so files for Python 3.2

2010-06-24 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
ish debug builds, profiling builds, Unicode width (see issue8654), and probably several other ./configure options. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Pyth

Re: [Python-Dev] bug tracker permissions request

2010-04-27 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
document the Resolution or Status fields. For the Keywords field, the page only documents the "easy" keyword. Also, some of the headings in the page are enclosed in square brackets, while others are not. It's not clear to me what the brackets are intended to designate. -- Daniel Stutz

Re: [Python-Dev] bug tracker permissions request

2010-04-27 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
he different fields in the bug tracker? I've read http://www.python.org/dev/workflow/, but it doesn't cover everything. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailin

[Python-Dev] bug tracker permissions request

2010-04-27 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
". I only find the time to produce patches once in awhile, but when I have the time I usually produce more than one. Assigning bugs to myself will increase my motivation to write patches, as I will feel that I've made a commitment to fixing them. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, S

Re: [Python-Dev] http://bugs.python.org/ is down

2010-04-17 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Victor Stinner < victor.stin...@haypocalc.com> wrote: > http://bugs.python.org/ displays "Service Temporarily Unavailable". Is it > normal? > It's working fine for me. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, St

Re: [Python-Dev] Very Strange Argument Handling Behavior

2010-04-16 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > 2010/4/16 Daniel Stutzbach : > > IIRC, there's a performance hack in dictobject.c that keeps track of > whether > > all of the keys are strings or not. The hack is designed so that lookup > > operations can

Re: [Python-Dev] Very Strange Argument Handling Behavior

2010-04-16 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
rather than going through the slower PyObject_ functions. Consequently, validating **kwds should be cheap. I don't know if the the current validating of **kwds with Python functions already leverages that hack or not. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC &

Re: [Python-Dev] Tuning Python dicts

2010-04-13 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
where you are ahead of the current dict implementation and where you are behind. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.pytho

Re: [Python-Dev] stdlib socket usage and "keepalive"

2010-04-12 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
opt(socket.SOL_SOCKET, socket.SO_KEEPALIVE, 1) Most non-trivial applications use select() or poll() to avoid blocking calls and do their own timeout-checking at the application layer, so they don't need KEEPALIVE. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <ht

Re: [Python-Dev] WeakSet in Python 2.7

2010-03-29 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Michael Foord wrote: > It should be possible to fix it with a WeakKeyDictionary instead of > WeakSet. > True. I should have said "Backporting WeakSet would make it *easier* to backport the fix ..." :-) -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, St

Re: [Python-Dev] WeakSet in Python 2.7

2010-03-29 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
he fix for this reference leak: http://bugs.python.org/issue2521 -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailma

Re: [Python-Dev] "Fixing" the new GIL

2010-03-13 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
like the second approach as well, assuming "interactiveness" can be computed cheaply. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://

Re: [Python-Dev] [PEP 3148] futures - execute computations asynchronously

2010-03-06 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
-GUI async code can just use the ABC and not worry about what event loop is running underneath (be it TCL, GTK, or just poll()). -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mail

Re: [Python-Dev] [PEP 3148] futures - execute computations asynchronously

2010-03-06 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
cutor instance is then free to do so. +1 -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscr

Re: [Python-Dev] [PEP 3148] futures - execute computations asynchronously

2010-03-05 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
;Futures" with a class named "Future". Why not name your module "concurrent"? That would eliminate the confusion with "from __future__". I don't see a problem with keeping the class name. Plus, a "concurrent" module might be useful for things

Re: [Python-Dev] [PEP 3148] futures - execute computations asynchronously

2010-03-05 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Brian Quinlan wrote: > import futures > +1 on the idea, -1 on the name. It's too similar to "from __future__ import ...". Also, the PEP should probably link to the discussions on stdlib-sig? -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutz

Re: [Python-Dev] Caching function pointers in type objects

2010-03-03 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
hat it will be a while before the Unladen Swallow benchmarks can support Python 3, right? -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://m

Re: [Python-Dev] Caching function pointers in type objects

2010-03-03 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > 2010/3/3 Daniel Stutzbach : > > I think I see a way to dramatically speed up PyObject_RichCompareBool > when > > comparing immutable, built-in, non-container objects (int, float, str, > > etc.). It would speed u

Re: [Python-Dev] Caching function pointers in type objects

2010-03-03 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
ue it, would it be best for me to implement it as a patch to Unladen Swallow, CPython trunk, or CPython py3k? -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

[Python-Dev] Caching function pointers in type objects

2010-03-02 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
In CPython, is it safe to cache function pointers that are in type objects? For example, if I know that some_type->tp_richcompare is non-NULL, and I call it (which may execute arbitrary user code), can I assume that some_type->tp_richcompare is still non-NULL? -- Daniel Stutzbach

Re: [Python-Dev] Platform extension for distutils on other interpreters than CPython

2010-02-23 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
ly replaces functions for speed. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: htt

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial repository for Python benchmarks

2010-02-21 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
nounce it via a reply to this thread? I'd like to check it out. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailma

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3147: PYC Repository Directories

2010-01-30 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Vitor Bosshard wrote: > Putting the files into a separate dir also makes it much harder to > work with external tools; e.g. VCSes already ignore .pyc and .pyo > files, but not unknown directories. > Can't a VCS be configured to ignore a .pyr directory just as eas

Re: [Python-Dev] patch to make list.pop(0) work in O(1) time

2010-01-27 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
on mucking with any of the fundamental data structures until the Unladen Swallow patch lands (assuming it lands). -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing li

Re: [Python-Dev] O(1) random access to deque? (Re: patch to make list.pop(0) work in O(1) time)

2010-01-27 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
n]. That way it doesn't have to regularly allocate and deallocate memory for an approximately-fixed-length FIFO queue (which Steve's list will need to do). Raymond's objections are here: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2007-November/075244.html -- Daniel Stut

Re: [Python-Dev] patch to make list.pop(0) work in O(1) time

2010-01-27 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Steve Howell wrote: > Fair enough, but that's still wasteful of memory, keeping around a bunch of > None elements because you can't inexpensively delete them. > Even if there are many references to it, there is only one None element. -- Dan

Re: [Python-Dev] patch to make list.pop(0) work in O(1) time

2010-01-27 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
o list, you can just erase it; > no need to recopy the whole list. > I don't think your analogy works, unless you recopy your to-do lists whenever you complete a task in the middle of the list. ;-) -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <ht

Re: [Python-Dev] patch to make list.pop(0) work in O(1) time

2010-01-26 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
ist will always be exactly the right size. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-d

Re: [Python-Dev] patch to make list.pop(0) work in O(1) time

2010-01-26 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
r "the full Python test suite"? -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe:

Re: [Python-Dev] patch to make list.pop(0) work in O(1) time

2010-01-25 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
hat > the list itself gets garbage collected. > FWIW, for a long-running FIFO queue, it's critical to release some of the memory along the way, otherwise the amount of wasted memory is unbounded. Good luck :) -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <htt

Re: [Python-Dev] recursive closures - reference leak

2009-12-08 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
happen. > That strikes me as a *predictable* long pause. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinf

Re: [Python-Dev] Too many Python accounts

2009-11-15 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 2:44 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > But then, users can easily create as many fake accounts as they want to. > Why not do something more robust, then? For example, when a user enters an OpenID that hasn't been seen by PyPi before, make them enter

Re: [Python-Dev] Retrieve an arbitrary element from asetwithoutremoving it

2009-11-09 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
ator has to scan through the table for non-empty entries. (the above assumes a good hash function with few collisions, of course) -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python

Re: [Python-Dev] Retrieve an arbitrary element from asetwithoutremoving it

2009-11-09 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
o forth. The hash table will shrink after the n/2-th removal, when we have checked 1 + 2 + 3 + ... + n/2 = O(n**2) slots for n/2 removals (or amortized O(n) per removal). It's too late for shrinking to save us; we've already performed too much work. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. Preside

Re: [Python-Dev] Retrieve an arbitrary element from a set withoutremoving it

2009-11-03 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
t types. I'm just putting them through the paces in my own products before releasing them. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org h

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7 Release? 2.7 == last of the 2.x line?

2009-11-03 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
ly need is syntax compatibility. For the rest, you can check sys.version_info. In a nutshell, I don't think you need two branches to support an extension module on Python 2 and Python 3. YMMV. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com>

Re: [Python-Dev] Reworking the GIL

2009-11-02 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
thread to relinquish the remainder of its time slice to any other thread of equal priority that is ready to run." (this is not to say that I think the solution with Sleep is worthwhile, though...) -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <

Re: [Python-Dev] MSDN subscribers: Using Visual Studio?

2009-10-29 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
ler > though. > It does. If I recall correctly, in addition to Visual Studio Express, I also needed the Windows SDK (which is also free as in beer). -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Reworking the GIL

2009-10-26 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
's time budget is merely paused during I/O rather than reset, then a thread making frequent (but short) I/O requests cannot starve the system. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Add const to python API - issue 6952

2009-10-20 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
es a warning test_const(&const_var); test_noconst(&noconst_var); test_noconst(&const_var); // generates a warning return 0; } -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> __

Re: [Python-Dev] SIGCHECK() in longobject.c

2009-10-18 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Daniel Stutzbach stutzbachenterprises.com> writes: > > I sometimes do million-digits calculations that I want to interrupt using > Control-C.(particularly when I didn't *intend* to do a million-digits > calculation.

Re: [Python-Dev] SIGCHECK() in longobject.c

2009-10-18 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
larly when I didn't *intend* to do a million-digits calculation... ;) ) -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mail

Re: [Python-Dev] Better module shutdown procedure

2009-10-14 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
sys.modules with weakrefs 2. Run the garbage collector 3. Replace globals in any remaining modules with None 4. Run the garbage collector Is it possible for a __del__ method to be called in step 4 or not? I am still unclear on this point. :-) -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, St

Re: [Python-Dev] Better module shutdown procedure

2009-10-14 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
referencing a global variable in __del__ will be 100% safe? (not just "likely") -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mai

Re: [Python-Dev] Better module shutdown procedure

2009-10-14 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
als by setting them to None. It zaps them to weakrefs first, which means that globals are more likely to be valid during __del__, but it still cannot make any guarantees and referencing globals from __del__ is still a bad idea. Is that a correct synopsis? -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutz

Re: [Python-Dev] Weak dict iterators are fragile

2009-10-11 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
gt; -1 on 1. +0 on 2. It'd be nice if we could postpone the resize if there are active iterators, but I don't think there's a clean way to track the iterators. -- Daniel Stutzbach, Ph.D. President, Stutzbach Enterprises, LLC <http://stutzbachenterprises.com> ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Package install failures in 2.6.3

2009-10-05 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > If, as I hope, the answer to that is "yes", then I strongly support > releasing a fixed setuptools instead of reverting the change to Python. > How do your propose to get the author of setuptools to release a new

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review.

2009-09-30 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
his discussion has focused too much on the details of ipaddr (and the false dichotomy of "ipaddr versus nothing"), without properly tackling the question of "What use-cases for IP addresses are sufficiently universal* that they belong in the standard library?" -- Daniel St

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review.

2009-09-28 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
re added in Python 2.6: Python 2.6.2 (r262:71600, Apr 15 2009, 07:20:39) [GCC 3.4.4 (cygming special, gdc 0.12, using dmd 0.125)] on cygwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import fractions >>> fractio

  1   2   >