back (most recent call last):
File "/home/skip/src/python/cpython/Lib/unittest/mock.py", line 1191, in
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return func(*args, **keywargs)
File
"/home/skip/src/python/cpython/Lib/test/test_asyncio/test_unix_events.py",
line 219, in test_remove_signal_handler_erro
de that some of the changes
will be improvements, but I think such changes belong in separate PRs. Even
if that means you have to postpone the core bits of this change until they
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> I have found 2to3 conversion to be remarkably easy and painless.
> And the whole Unicode thing is much easier.
The intersection of bytes, str and unicode has been the only pain point for
me. Everything else I've encountered has been pretty trivial.
itself being deprecated, then removed, from the stdlib. I believe it was
the sole persistent key/value store for most of the early years.
So, bugs or not (& fixable or not) it's not like we haven't encountered
this kind of case before.
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> Do you have ca-certificates installed?
It seems so:
% apt search ca-certificates | grep installed
ca-certificates/artful,artful,now 20170717 all [installed]
ca-certificates-mono/artful,artful,now 4.6.2.7+dfsg-1ubuntu1 all
[installed,automatic]
liblwp-protocol-https-perl/artful,artful,now
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test_stls_context (__main__.TestPOP3Class) ... Exception in thread Thread-16:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/skip/src/python/cpython/Lib/threading.py", line 917, in
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self.run()
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asyncore.loop(
"no" as I don't see a patch.)
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> Modifying GitHub Labels is only available to people with commit privs and,
> IIRC, Skip asked to drop his commit privs a few years ago (although I'm sure
> we would all be happy to welcome him back!).
Alas, then I would feel some obligation to be semi-responsive to buggy
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from special-purpose
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Thanks. I clearly need to brush up on workflow and etiquette.
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tation for the
user-defined commands). Unfortunately, it's been so long since I
contributed, I don't quite understand the ins and outs of the workflow
anymore. In particular, I could find no way to add the "skip news"
label. I'm afraid someone might have to intervene here:
https://github.co
Guido wrote:
This being a security issue I think it's okay to break 3.6. might even
backport to 3.5 if it's easy?
Is it also a security issue with 2.x? If so, should a fix to 2.7 be
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wouldn't official support also involve suitable package creation or
does that just fall out for free from the build-for-emulator PR?
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than dateutil.parser.parse. This makes sense, as the latter tries to
figure out what you've given it (you never give it a format string), while
in the absence of a format string, arrow.get assumes you have an ISO-8601
date/time, with only a few small variations allowed.
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On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 2
>> arrow.get('2017-10-20T08:20:08.986166+00:00')
>>> arrow.get('2017-10-20T08:20:08.986166+00:00').datetime
datetime.datetime(2017, 10, 20, 8, 20, 8, 986166, tzinfo=tzoffset(None, 0))
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* MothOS - Skip Montanaro (skip.montan...@gmail.com) is working to add
CPython support for this platform on this Git branch:
https://github.com/smontanaro/Moth
Interested parties would be directed to contact the pilots of tho
might have been the most
significant driving force in the development of decorators, which, I
believe, were always just thought if as nothing more than syntactic sugar
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This popped up on python-list. It actually seems to me like it might be
interesting to the core developers. Apologies if I've missed my guess.
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that support it.
I've been using Emacs far longer than Python. I remember having to invoke
temacs on something. Still, if I didn't know better, I could be convinced
you were referring to the GIL. :-)
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> compiled byte-code ?
Correct. The module level bytecode is executed once at import time,
then discarded, at least that used to be how it was done.
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> What other core developers think about this?
Wow, this discussion takes me back. Glad I don't have to check out
comp.lang.c to get my brace placement fix.
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ing for me on a debug build of Python 2.7.13 (I
ran strings over my GDB executable first to see if it knew anything
about Python, and it did).
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I'm a simple man. I need the kind of stuff Misc/gdbinit provides
(smart stack traces and variable printing), but I most frequently use
the pyo user-defined command to print the contents of PyObject
pointers. When they are working () pystack and pyframe are also
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ope it's better now.
I added a comment to Alexander's bug report.
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their for ages, so there must have been
a good reason at one time. Is that reason still valid today? (I haven't
programmed at the C API level for a good long while, or I'm sure I'd have
encountered this before.)
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Cool, thanks to Ned and Zach. Hg never gets allocated very many neurons in
my brain. Then there's the whole brain-in-neutral aspect of things which
makes me fail to consider there might be help and/or closed branches which
aren't displayed... Sorry for the distraction.
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I need to do a little 2.6 spelunking. I don't see a 2.6 branch in the
output of "hg branches". Is "hg clone v2.6.9" the proper incantation to get
the latest version (or perhaps "v2.6")?
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hg up -C solved my problem, but I'm still a bit confused
(nothing new, in addition to which I only use hg for my Python
repositories)... Why didn't a plain "hg up" tell me it couldn't update
some files because of changes? Or, like git (I think), attempt to
incorporate the upstream changes
ld my world, doing the
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On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Skip Montanaro
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> Is it possible that the fix wasn't propagated to
> the 2.7 branch? Or perhaps I've fouled up my hg repo relationships?
Either way, I went ahead and opened a ticket:
http://bugs.python.org/i
8.0 installed.
Any suggestions?
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one of
that set of flags does have a "PY_" prefix. Why didn't these flags
(and the T_* flags in structmember.h) get swept up in all the hubbub
around the grand renaming.
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> 2016-10-03
hon-history.blogspot.com/2009/03/great-or-grand-renaming.html>.
Looking at the documentation on defining new types, I saw no mention of
these peculiarly named constants, though they are clearly documented.
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It's a known issue -- which I thought was fixed recently. I would have
responded sooner, but I couldn't remember where website bugs are to be
reported and figured someone would chime in with the link. I *don't*
think it's bugs.python.org, though I could be wrong.
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. Might a segfault provide enough output to debug?
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*.
All resources of the parent are inherited by the child process. *Note that
safely forking a multithreaded process is problematic*.
So, even if you get past this particular problem, the conventional wisdom
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I thought I was volunteering to get a pony. I was misinformed.
Ned,
Not to worry. I'm sure that by the time 3.6a0 is due, the PSF will be able
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to gain some performance in a bugfix release.
One can read anything he wants into the Zen. I could respond with this
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tests which listen for network connections should also mention that, at
least on Macs?
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science graduates will be familiar with the textbook definition. If your
use of coroutine matches the textbook definition of the term, I think you
should continue to use it instead of inventing new names which will just
confuse people new to Python.
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that the stub no longer matches the
version of yourmod I am using, and must ignore it.
Does that suggest the typeshed needs some sort of structure which allows
all versions of stubs for the same package to be gathered together?
My apologies if I'm following along way behind the curve.
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was going to attempt a port of Python to
a new platform, I would still choose to port Python 3.
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here (as well as pydoc) are all pure Python modules.
I don't think any of them would have directly triggered a dlopen error. Do you
have a traceback?
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So which is it?
Precisely...
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interpreter prompt and never get a GUI. IMO you should be able to
strip out the gui() function (or even just comment out the Tkinter
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for your question?
One last thing. Are you working on Python itself
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While he doesn't explicitly say so, I got the distinct impression reading
his recent blog post that he supports one source, not forked sources.
In the absence to evidence to the contrary, I think of Brett as the most
expert developer in the porting space.
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How about run 3to2 at installation time?
In theory, yes, but that's not a fork either.
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generated by other applications which has nanosecond resolution.
Unless those values are stored as epoch seconds, you're going to need
to parse them. It's not clear to me why you'd give people only half
the solution they need.
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with 3.4. My guess is this causes the
different behavior between versions. You might also find it useful to
print A.__call__ and print a.__call__ with different class statements.
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possibilities before trying the .pyc. OTOH, if the .py is present, it
might be found early in the search, then as an optimization, look for
a .pyc file it can use rather than compiling the .py file. How long is
sys.path?
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, it doesn't appear this will
be resolved until 1.7 at the earliest.
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I got the same in Chrome on my Mac.
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On Sep 1, 2014 8:00 PM, John Wong gokoproj...@gmail.com wrote:
As of today I still am getting untrusted cert thought I would re-ping to
see if there is an ETA.
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 8/21/2014 7:25
the --upgrade flag it tries to uninstall
the global version.
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be great if there was a way for it to tell me where on my
system it found outdated package X. The --verbose flag tells me all
sorts of other stuff I'm not really interested in, but not the
installed location of the outdated package.
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Also, isn't this discussion better suited for Distutils-SIG?
I started up a thread there. I'd post an archive link, but it hasn't
yet turned up in the distutils-sig archive.
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On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:42 PM, matsjoyce matsjo...@gmail.com wrote:
There maybe some holes in my approach, but I can't find them.
There's the rub. Given time, I suspect someone will discover a hole or two.
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Is there some online documentation with guidelines on how to contribute?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=contribute+to+python
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. A better
place to comment about the job board (and perhaps volunteer to help
with the current effort) is j...@python.org.
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On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
Aye, in this case, I'm in the officially deprecate the feature camp.
Definitely preferable to the suggestion to remove the configure flag.
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I can't see any reason to make a backwards-incompatible change to
Python 2 to only support Unicode. You're bound to break somebody's
setup. Wouldn't it be better to fix bugs as Serhiy has done?
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for this. If failing, such buildbots wouldn't block a release, but
would still provide tools for people to track down the source of
breakage.
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On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Brett Cannon bcan...@gmail.com wrote:
I view stable buildbots as staying up and testing critical platforms.
Would supported and unsupported (or critical and optional?)
make more sense? Unstable suggests broken to me, not we don't
really care about these.
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just the unstable category. What do those two categories have to do
with supported and unsupported?
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I wonder if one or more people who maintain unofficial forks on
minority platforms (OS/2, VMS, etc) could create an informational PEP
about the process (benefits and pitfalls) of that kind of effort?
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Zach,
That's as a good a link as I know of. (Lot of water under the bridge
since then!)
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that sleeping dog lie. I have
better things to do with my life. New stuff I write tends to be much
more pep8-ish.
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more work to read
mixedCase names.
Given Guido's background, I suspect these studies might have been done
at CWI in the context of the ABC language.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blink If you blink, you've missed
Python 2.7 startup on a relatively modern machine.
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python -c 'import tradelink.snake.v11_2 ; raise SystemExit'
real 0m0.671s
user 0m0.405s
sys 0m0.044s
% time python -c 'raise SystemExit'
real 0m0.022s
user 0m0.011s
sys 0m0.009s
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, actually, a Phython3)
directory.
WTH is Python 4?
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just updated to Python 4. (installed to C: drive) ... now i notice
there are separate
that an
April Fool's prank went so far as to put a tarted up version of Python
3.x out in the wild where unsuspecting folks would find and install
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, you wind up with situations where shorter
months can be skipped altogether. Is there a way to talk in terms of
months but not have short months get skipped?
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years and months args in their
constructors.
This is why I said this deserved a separate topic. Probably on python-ideas.
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sees fit. That would support
the ISO 8601 syntax (*), and anything else the programmer things is
better than the status quo.
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(*) As an aside (that is, this belongs in a separate thread if you
want to discuss it), in my opinion, attempting to support ISO 8601
formatting is pointless without
this thing
(whatever it turns out to be) 2.8? Is this pledge and its rationale
written down in a PEP somewhere, so I can study the reasons behind
what appears at this point to be blind adherence? Did someone
administer a blood oath at a recent PyCon?
Pledge-be-damned-ly y'rs,
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will have to make some changes to take
advantage of these updated security bits. Is there some path forward
that really makes everything a drop-in improvement, requiring no
change to application code, and breaking nothing that already works?
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conditions they might not? It might still be necessary to maintain
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On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Well, if we must maintain macros, let's maintain them everywhere and
avoid the burden of two different implementations for the same thing.
Would it be possible to generate the macro versions from the
inline/static
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derby because of that.
My first thought was that this exercise falls into the realm of fixing
things which aren't broken.
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We could always run random.shuffle() on the current list
so new additions don't look out of place ;)
Wouldn't that bloat the repository with diffs and make merges more difficult?
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a value of 2013. Just knowing it's out of range isn't really
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