Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-03-04 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Heimes wrote: | Oh yeah ... ZODB4 and BDBStorage ... a dark chapter starting with high | hopes and ending in tragedy ... Several projects like Zope and | Subversion worked hard on a a Berkeley DB backend but in the end all | projects had the

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-03-04 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guido van Rossum wrote: | Correction: the subversion BerkeleyDB backend is still very much alive | and kicking. There were some early issues (they did things that | SleepyCat told them not to do :-) but it was corrected and it's still | working fine

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-03-04 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Heimes wrote: | More than 5 years ago Zope Corp was working on a Berkeley DB backend for | ZODB. It was more of a marketing decision to show large companies that | ZODB is using a well known database instead of a self made one. The | project

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-28 Thread Christian Heimes
Fred Drake wrote: The BDBStorage is long gone at this point. Few are so unfortunate as to remember it (though a few who may just might be on this list). :-) Oh yeah ... ZODB4 and BDBStorage ... a dark chapter starting with high hopes and ending in tragedy ... Several projects like Zope and

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-28 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 09:00:54PM +0100, Christian Heimes wrote: Oh yeah ... ZODB4 and BDBStorage ... a dark chapter starting with high hopes and ending in tragedy ... Several projects like Zope and Subversion worked hard on a a Berkeley DB backend but in the end all projects had the same

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-28 Thread Christian Heimes
Guido van Rossum wrote: Correction: the subversion BerkeleyDB backend is still very much alive and kicking. There were some early issues (they did things that SleepyCat told them not to do :-) but it was corrected and it's still working fine for several large users. Thanks for the correction!

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-28 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Christian Heimes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guido van Rossum wrote: Correction: the subversion BerkeleyDB backend is still very much alive and kicking. There were some early issues (they did things that SleepyCat told them not to do :-) but it was

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-28 Thread Christian Heimes
Guido van Rossum wrote: This was the fault of the svn developers, not of BerkeleyDB. And svn has fixed the issues. I got that in your last mail ;) Christian ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-28 Thread Guido van Rossum
Correction: the subversion BerkeleyDB backend is still very much alive and kicking. There were some early issues (they did things that SleepyCat told them not to do :-) but it was corrected and it's still working fine for several large users. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Christian Heimes

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-28 Thread Christian Heimes
Oleg Broytmann wrote: Sorry, can I ask an additional question? These words - what they were about? about the architecture of BDBStorage and Subversion, or about the very BerkeleyDB, or about what? I don't know all details and it was several years ago so some of my saying may not be correct.

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-27 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:46:04PM -0800, Gregory P. Smith wrote: My opinion on bsddb as a standard library module is based mostly on its always been there and a vague memory of the last time this came up I thought people piped up saying they liked batteries being included, including bsddb and

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-27 Thread Neal Norwitz
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Brett Cannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, in my opinion batteries included is great, but not when one of the batteries consistently acts up and requires a good shake to get working again. The bsddb module has consistent reliability issues when it comes

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-27 Thread Thomas Heller
Neal Norwitz schrieb: On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Brett Cannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, in my opinion batteries included is great, but not when one of the batteries consistently acts up and requires a good shake to get working again. The bsddb module has consistent reliability

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-27 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Maybe the flaky tests could be moved towards the end? This way we could at least see if the other tests work. It's intentional that the tests run in a random order. Regards, Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-27 Thread Fred Drake
On Feb 27, 2008, at 9:13 AM, A.M. Kuchling wrote: Doing a code search finds a fair number of users of the module: Zope's BDBStorage, ... The BDBStorage is long gone at this point. Few are so unfortunate as to remember it (though a few who may just might be on this list). :-) -Fred --

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-26 Thread Facundo Batista
2008/2/25, Thomas Hervé [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've worked on that problem during the bug day. I've open a ticket with a patch at http://bugs.python.org/issue2168. Most of the buildbots are green now!!! Thank you all! This community is as awesome as Python itself, ;) Three remains in red,

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-26 Thread Bill Janssen
- Alpha Tru64: test_smtplib.py is flaky, and _ssl.c is not compiled correctly. Neil is hunting this, I think. Last time we looked at the _ssl problem, the machine had an out-of-date installation of OpenSSL. Don't know if that ever got rectified; I just crossed that buildbot off my list :-).

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-26 Thread Martin v. Löwis
- X86 XP-4: idem. For this two, how can be tried if the bsddb lib in those windows is correctly installed? They check out bsddb from subversion, see Tools/buildbot/external. If you don't trust that they did so correctly, edit the script to remove bsddb, check that in, wait for them to delete

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-26 Thread Facundo Batista
2008/2/26, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: They check out bsddb from subversion, see Tools/buildbot/external. If you don't trust that they did so correctly, edit the script to remove bsddb, check that in, wait for them to delete it, then revert the script, check in again, and see how

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-26 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Facundo Batista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/2/26, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: They check out bsddb from subversion, see Tools/buildbot/external. If you don't trust that they did so correctly, edit the script to remove bsddb, check that in,

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-26 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:04:47PM -0800, Brett Cannon wrote: Or we can get rid of bsddb and not have the problem anymore. =) +1 for smaller stdlib and fewer problems. Oleg. -- Oleg Broytmannhttp://phd.pp.ru/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmers don't die,

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-26 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On 2/26/08, Brett Cannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Facundo Batista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/2/26, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: They check out bsddb from subversion, see Tools/buildbot/external. If you don't trust that they did so

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-26 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Gregory P. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/26/08, Brett Cannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Facundo Batista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/2/26, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: They check out bsddb from

[Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-25 Thread Facundo Batista
All fail in test_compiler.py. -- .Facundo Blog: http://www.taniquetil.com.ar/plog/ PyAr: http://www.python.org/ar/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe:

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-25 Thread Christian Heimes
Facundo Batista wrote: All fail in test_compiler.py. Thomas Herve has worked out a patch: http://bugs.python.org/issue2177 Christian ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe:

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-25 Thread Facundo Batista
2008/2/25, Christian Heimes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thomas Herve has worked out a patch: http://bugs.python.org/issue2177 After reviewing, testing and etc, I commited it. Let's see the buildbots! :) -- .Facundo Blog: http://www.taniquetil.com.ar/plog/ PyAr: http://www.python.org/ar/

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-25 Thread Facundo Batista
2008/2/25, Facundo Batista [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/2/25, Christian Heimes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thomas Herve has worked out a patch: http://bugs.python.org/issue2177 After reviewing, testing and etc, I commited it. Let's see the buildbots! :) Some are green, now, but others still are in red,

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots for trunk are all red

2008-02-25 Thread Thomas Hervé
Facundo Batista a écrit : 2008/2/25, Facundo Batista [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/2/25, Christian Heimes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thomas Herve has worked out a patch: http://bugs.python.org/issue2177 After reviewing, testing and etc, I commited it. Let's see the buildbots! :) Some are