Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-13 Thread Walter Dörwald
C. Titus Brown wrote: > [...] > I have had a hard time getting a good sense of what core code is well > tested and what is not well tested, across various platforms. While > Walter's C/Python integrated code coverage site is nice, it would be > even nicer to have a way to generate all that inform

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread Ron DuPlain
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 4:38 PM, C. Titus Brown wrote: > Unquestionably "core" by my criteria above: > > 3to2 tool -- 'nuff said. I worked on the 3to2 tool during the sprint last week at PyCon. I can chip in for GSoC in the event it does get picked up. -Ron PS - I'm out of town next week for

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> The student will also provide some plugins for a maximum number of > existing keyring systems. > Some of these plugins might be included in Distutils, and some of them > in a third-party package. This is slightly better, but see my previous message (that is feature creep in distutils, and likely

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Tarek Ziadé wrote: >> -> I'm also skeptical that this is a good SoC project in the first place. > > What is a good SoC project from your point of view ? As a core project - tricky. Implement some long-standing complex feature request, or fix a pile of outstanding bug reports for a module (like th

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> I'm using "core projects" as a shorthand for projects that directly > address the core development environment, the stdlib, and priorities of > committers on python-dev. Tarek is a committer, and it sounded like > you, Jim, and Georg were all interested in this project, too -- that > pushes it w

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Ok what about this then: I am changing the scope a little bit, and I think the students will be fine with this change since it's the same work. "The project will consist of creating a plugin system into Distutils to be able to store and retrieve the username/password used by some commands, without

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread Tarek Ziadé
> -> I'm also skeptical that this is a good SoC project in the first place. What is a good SoC project from your point of view ? > -> Coming up with a wrapper for, say, Apple Keychain, could be a good > -> project. Coming up with a unifying API for all keychains is out of > -> scope, IMO; various

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread C. Titus Brown
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 08:13:35AM +0200, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: -> > 2x "keyring package" -- see -> > http://tarekziade.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/pycon-hallway-session-1-a-keyring-library-for-python/. -> > The poorer one of these will probably be axed unless Tarek gives it -> > strong support. -

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread C. Titus Brown
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:21:18PM +0200, Mario wrote: -> > He says vague things about patches too, but I'm not sure what. If he -> > wanted to make that into a 'patchbot' that just applied every patch in -> > isolation and ran 'make && make test' and posted results in the -> > tracker I'd be a ha

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread Mario
> > > He says vague things about patches too, but I'm not sure what. If he > wanted to make that into a 'patchbot' that just applied every patch in > isolation and ran 'make && make test' and posted results in the > tracker I'd be a happy camper. > > Jack, how about you write that idea down on the

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-10 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> 2x "keyring package" -- see > http://tarekziade.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/pycon-hallway-session-1-a-keyring-library-for-python/. > The poorer one of these will probably be axed unless Tarek gives it > strong support. I don't think these are good "core" projects. Even if the students come up with

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-10 Thread Jack diederich
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 4:38 PM, C. Titus Brown wrote: [megasnip] > roundup VCS integration / build tools to support core development -- >        a single student proposed both of these and has received some >        support.  See http://slexy.org/view/s2pFgWxufI for details. >From the listed web

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-10 Thread C. Titus Brown
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 06:05:02PM -0500, Benjamin Peterson wrote: -> 2009/4/10 C. Titus Brown : -> > 2x "improve testing tools for py3k" -- variously focus on improving test -> > ?? ?? ?? ??coverage and testing wrappers. -> > -> > ?? ?? ?? ??One proposes to provide a nice wrapper to make nose and

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-10 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2009/4/10 C. Titus Brown : > 2x "improve testing tools for py3k" -- variously focus on improving test >        coverage and testing wrappers. > >        One proposes to provide a nice wrapper to make nose and py.test >        capable of running the regrtests, which (with no change to >        regrt

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-10 Thread Guilherme Polo
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:02 PM, C. Titus Brown wrote: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 05:53:23PM -0300, Guilherme Polo wrote: > -> > > -> > IDLE/Tkinter patch integration & improvement -- deal with ~120 tracker > -> > ? ? ? ?issues relating to IDLE and Tkinter. > -> > > -> > -> Is it important, for the

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-10 Thread Tennessee Leeuwenburg
Well, I think Numpy is of huge importance to a major Python user segment, the scientific community. I don't know if that makes it 'core', but I strongly agree that it's important. Better testing is always useful, and more "core", but IMO less important. -T On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 6:38 AM, C. Titu

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-10 Thread C. Titus Brown
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 05:53:23PM -0300, Guilherme Polo wrote: -> > -> > IDLE/Tkinter patch integration & improvement -- deal with ~120 tracker -> > ? ? ? ?issues relating to IDLE and Tkinter. -> > -> -> Is it important, for the discussion, to mention that it also involves -> testing this area (i

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-10 Thread Guilherme Polo
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 5:38 PM, C. Titus Brown wrote: > Hi all, > > this year we have 10-12 GSoC applications that I've put in the "relevant > to core Python development" category.  These projects, if mentors etc > are found, are *guaranteed* a slot under the PSF GSoC umbrella.  As > backup GSoC

[Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-10 Thread C. Titus Brown
Hi all, this year we have 10-12 GSoC applications that I've put in the "relevant to core Python development" category. These projects, if mentors etc are found, are *guaranteed* a slot under the PSF GSoC umbrella. As backup GSoC admin and general busybody, I've taken on the work of coordinating