[Python-Dev] OS X buildbots

2012-06-24 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Hello, We only have a x86 Tiger OS X buildbot left. People wanting to see OS X supported may decide to maintain a buildbot that will help us avoid regressions. See http://wiki.python.org/moin/BuildBot Regards Antoine. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Py

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots missing

2012-04-22 Thread David Bolen
Antoine Pitrou writes: > Well, the reason it can't qualify for the stable list right now is that > there's a recurrent test_logging failure on it: > http://bugs.python.org/issue14644 Yeah, I don't know that I'm necessarily suggesting it be in the stable set as just mentioning that there is at le

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots missing

2012-04-22 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:50:03 -0400 David Bolen wrote: > Antoine Pitrou writes: > > > For the record, we don't have any stable OS X buildbots anymore. > > If you want to contribute a build slave (I hear we may have Apple > > employees reading this list), please take a look at > > http://wiki.pyth

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots missing

2012-04-21 Thread David Bolen
Antoine Pitrou writes: > For the record, we don't have any stable OS X buildbots anymore. > If you want to contribute a build slave (I hear we may have Apple > employees reading this list), please take a look at > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BuildBot I realize it may not qualify for the official

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots missing

2012-04-20 Thread Bill Janssen
Antoine Pitrou wrote: > For the record, we don't have any stable OS X buildbots anymore. Sigh. That's me again. We are currently installing a virtual private cloud at our workspace, and I'm seeing a lot of intermittent failures in that server room. I need to work out a way in which buildbot r

[Python-Dev] OS X buildbots missing

2012-04-20 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Hello, For the record, we don't have any stable OS X buildbots anymore. If you want to contribute a build slave (I hear we may have Apple employees reading this list), please take a look at http://wiki.python.org/moin/BuildBot Regards Antoine. ___ P

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread Éric Araujo
[Barry Warsaw] > As an aside, I wonder if it would make sense to create an Ubuntu/Debian > package that essentially just depended on all those -dev packages. That way > you could install this python-uber-dev package and get everything you needed > to build a sumo Python. I don’t know. Any Debian

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread Steve Holden
Brett Cannon wrote: > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 15:01, "Martin v. Löwis" > wrote: When Tim Peters added it, he wanted it to tell him whether he did the Windows build correctly, INCLUDING ALL OPTIONAL PACKAGES that can possibly work on Windows. If you try to generalize this beyond

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 15:20, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: >> So it isn't that it's "unexpected", it's that a dependency is missing. >> So it seems the terminology needs to get tweaked. > > More that the phrase "expected skip" isn't clearly defined an

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 01, 2010, at 07:52 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >Note that it works this way on Linux as well. On Kubuntu (for example) >you need another half dozen or so additional *-dev packages installed >to avoid unexpected test skips. > >Cheers, >Nick. > >P.S. For anyone curious, I posted the list of extra

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > So it isn't that it's "unexpected", it's that a dependency is missing. > So it seems the terminology needs to get tweaked. More that the phrase "expected skip" isn't clearly defined and people sometimes guess wrong as to what it means. As Mart

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 15:01, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >>> When Tim Peters added it, he wanted it to tell him whether he did the >>> Windows build correctly, INCLUDING ALL OPTIONAL PACKAGES that can >>> possibly work on Windows. If you try to generalize this beyond Windows, >>> then the only skip

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread Martin v. Löwis
>> When Tim Peters added it, he wanted it to tell him whether he did the >> Windows build correctly, INCLUDING ALL OPTIONAL PACKAGES that can >> possibly work on Windows. If you try to generalize this beyond Windows, >> then the only skips that are expected are the ones for tests that >> absolutely

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 14:52, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:53 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> When Tim Peters added it, he wanted it to tell him whether he did the >> Windows build correctly, INCLUDING ALL OPTIONAL PACKAGES that can >> possibly work on Windows. If you try to ge

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:53 AM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > When Tim Peters added it, he wanted it to tell him whether he did the > Windows build correctly, INCLUDING ALL OPTIONAL PACKAGES that can > possibly work on Windows. If you try to generalize this beyond Windows, > then the only skips that

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 12:53, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> The whole "unexpected" skipping is somewhat of a mess. In an ideal >> situation modules that are optionally built should be allowed to skip, > > While this may be the wide-spread interpretation, it is definitely *not* > the original intent

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread Bill Janssen
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > > The whole "unexpected" skipping is somewhat of a mess. In an ideal > > situation modules that are optionally built should be allowed to skip, > > While this may be the wide-spread interpretation, it is definitely *not* > the original intention of the feature. > > When

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> The whole "unexpected" skipping is somewhat of a mess. In an ideal > situation modules that are optionally built should be allowed to skip, While this may be the wide-spread interpretation, it is definitely *not* the original intention of the feature. When Tim Peters added it, he wanted it to t

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 09:03, Bill Janssen wrote: > Martin v. Löwis wrote: > >> > Seems to work fine.  So this I don't understand.  Any ideas, anyone? >> >> Didn't we discuss this before? > > Possibly, but I don't recall doing so. > >> The buildbot slave has no controlling >> terminal anymore, h

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread exarkun
On 06:46 pm, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: On 04:44 pm, solip...@pitrou.net wrote: On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:00:09 PDT Bill Janssen wrote: So, my question then is, why are these skips "unexpected"? Seems to me that if this is the case, this test will never run on any platform. You can c

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread exarkun
On 05:29 pm, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Am 30.06.2010 13:32, schrieb exar...@twistedmatrix.com: On 05:24 am, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Seems to work fine. So this I don't understand. Any ideas, anyone? Didn't we discuss this before? The buildbot slave has no controlling terminal anymore, hen

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread exarkun
On 04:26 pm, jans...@parc.com wrote: exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: Could the test be rewritten (or supplemented) to use a pty? Most or perhaps all of the same operations should be supported. Buildbot seems to be explicitly not using a PTY. From the the top of the test output: make buildb

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread exarkun
On 04:44 pm, solip...@pitrou.net wrote: On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:00:09 PDT Bill Janssen wrote: So, my question then is, why are these skips "unexpected"? Seems to me that if this is the case, this test will never run on any platform. You can change the value of the "usepty" option in your

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 30.06.2010 13:32, schrieb exar...@twistedmatrix.com: > On 05:24 am, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: >>> Seems to work fine. So this I don't understand. Any ideas, anyone? >> >> Didn't we discuss this before? The buildbot slave has no controlling >> terminal anymore, hence it cannot open /dev/tty. If

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:00:09 PDT Bill Janssen wrote: > > So, my question then is, why are these skips "unexpected"? Seems to me > that if this is the case, this test will never run on any platform. You can change the value of the "usepty" option in your buildbot.tac. (you will also have to rest

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread Bill Janssen
exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: > Could the test be rewritten (or supplemented) to use a pty? Most or > perhaps all of the same operations should be supported. Buildbot seems to be explicitly not using a PTY. From the the top of the test output: make buildbottest in dir /Users/buildbot/build

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread Bill Janssen
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > > Seems to work fine. So this I don't understand. Any ideas, anyone? > > Didn't we discuss this before? Possibly, but I don't recall doing so. > The buildbot slave has no controlling > terminal anymore, hence it cannot open /dev/tty. If you are curious, > just patch

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread Bill Janssen
Guido van Rossum wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Bill Janssen wrote: > > My Leopard and Tiger PPC buildbots are momentarily green!  But I'm > > looking into why I'm skipping some tests.  My buildbots are up-to-date > > OS-wise and very vanilla, with the latest applicable Xcode. > > > >

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-30 Thread exarkun
On 05:24 am, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Seems to work fine. So this I don't understand. Any ideas, anyone? Didn't we discuss this before? The buildbot slave has no controlling terminal anymore, hence it cannot open /dev/tty. If you are curious, just patch your checkout to output the exact errn

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-29 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Seems to work fine. So this I don't understand. Any ideas, anyone? Didn't we discuss this before? The buildbot slave has no controlling terminal anymore, hence it cannot open /dev/tty. If you are curious, just patch your checkout to output the exact errno (e.g. to stdout), and trigger a build

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-29 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Bill Janssen wrote: > My Leopard and Tiger PPC buildbots are momentarily green!  But I'm > looking into why I'm skipping some tests.  My buildbots are up-to-date > OS-wise and very vanilla, with the latest applicable Xcode. > > 4 skips unexpected on darwin: >    te

[Python-Dev] OS X buildbots: why am I skipping these tests?

2010-06-29 Thread Bill Janssen
My Leopard and Tiger PPC buildbots are momentarily green! But I'm looking into why I'm skipping some tests. My buildbots are up-to-date OS-wise and very vanilla, with the latest applicable Xcode. 4 skips unexpected on darwin: test_gdb test_ioctl test_readline test_ttk_guionly Three of these

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots and launchd

2010-05-16 Thread Bill Janssen
I've repeated this setup with OS X 10.4 (Tiger). Some changes to the XML file were necessary, because I'd installed a non-system Python, twisted, and zope.interface on this machine, and because on Tiger, launchd daemon were not allowed to set their group ID. Here's the Tiger version, which again

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots and launchd

2010-05-16 Thread Bill Janssen
Bill Janssen wrote: > I can find no evidence that the buildbot installation process given on > the wiki will cause the buildbot slave to be restarted after a reboot of > the machine. To accomplish this, you should also undertake the work > described in > > http://buildbot.net/trac/wiki/Using

[Python-Dev] OS X buildbots and launchd

2010-05-16 Thread Bill Janssen
I can find no evidence that the buildbot installation process given on the wiki will cause the buildbot slave to be restarted after a reboot of the machine. To accomplish this, you should also undertake the work described in http://buildbot.net/trac/wiki/UsingLaunchd On my Leopard slave, I cr