Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2006-10-13 Thread David Abrahams
"Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Abrahams schrieb: >>> I'm not sure whether you are requesting these for yourself or for >>> somebody else. If for somebody else, that somebody else should seriously >>> consider building Python himself, and publishing the result. >> >> I'm req

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2006-10-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
David Abrahams schrieb: >> I'm not sure whether you are requesting these for yourself or for >> somebody else. If for somebody else, that somebody else should seriously >> consider building Python himself, and publishing the result. > > I'm requesting it for the many Boost.Python (heck, all Python

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2006-10-13 Thread David Abrahams
"Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm not sure whether you are requesting these for yourself or for > somebody else. If for somebody else, that somebody else should seriously > consider building Python himself, and publishing the result. I'm requesting it for the many Boost.Python (

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2006-10-12 Thread Martin v. Löwis
David Abrahams schrieb: > At the moment I have too weak a server to provide those files, but > that will change very soon. All that said, the Python and ActiveState > teams need to be aware of each and every Python release and go through > a standard release procedure anyway, whereas -- except fo

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2006-10-12 Thread David Abrahams
"Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dave Abrahams schrieb: >> The only problem here is that there appears to be a lag in the release of >> ActivePython after Python itself is released. >> >> Is there any chance of putting up just the debugging libraries a little >> earlier? > > I may

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2006-10-12 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Dave Abrahams schrieb: > The only problem here is that there appears to be a lag in the release of > ActivePython after Python itself is released. > > Is there any chance of putting up just the debugging libraries a little > earlier? I may be out of context here: what is the precise problem in p

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2006-10-12 Thread Dave Abrahams
Trent Mick ActiveState.com> writes: > > [Thomas Heller wrote] > > Anyway, AFAIK, the activestate distribution contains Python debug dlls. > > [Er, a month late, but I was in flitting around Australia at the time. :)] > > Yes, as a separate download. > > ftp://ftp.activestate.com/ActivePyt

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2005-12-02 Thread David Abrahams
Trent Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Thomas Heller wrote] >> Anyway, AFAIK, the activestate distribution contains Python debug dlls. > > [Er, a month late, but I was in flitting around Australia at the time. :)] > > Yes, as a separate download. > > ftp://ftp.activestate.com/ActivePython/e

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2005-12-01 Thread Trent Mick
[Thomas Heller wrote] > Anyway, AFAIK, the activestate distribution contains Python debug dlls. [Er, a month late, but I was in flitting around Australia at the time. :)] Yes, as a separate download. ftp://ftp.activestate.com/ActivePython/etc/ ActivePython--win32-ix86-debug.zip And

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2005-11-04 Thread Martin v. Löwis
David Abrahams wrote: >>I would go a step further than Tim: Send me (*) a patch to msi.py (which >>is used to build the distribution) that picks up the files and packages >>them in the desired way, and I will include the files it outputs >>in the official distribution. This is how the libpython24.a

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2005-11-04 Thread David Abrahams
"Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Abrahams wrote: >>> Just to clarify - what we are asking for is library built with >>> _DEBUG and no BOOST_DEBUG_PYTHON, that is the one compatible with >>> default Python distribution. >> I know you're trying to help, but I'm sure that's not

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2005-11-04 Thread David Abrahams
"Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Abrahams wrote: >> Who knows what the whiny babies will accept? That said, I think >> people would be happy with a .zip file containing whatever is built by >> selecting the debug build in the VS project and asking it to build >> everything. (

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2005-11-04 Thread Martin v. Löwis
David Abrahams wrote: >>Just to clarify - what we are asking for is library built with _DEBUG >>and no BOOST_DEBUG_PYTHON, that is the one compatible with default >>Python distribution. > > > I know you're trying to help, but I'm sure that's not making anything > clearer for these people. The

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2005-11-04 Thread Martin v. Löwis
David Abrahams wrote: > Who knows what the whiny babies will accept? That said, I think > people would be happy with a .zip file containing whatever is built by > selecting the debug build in the VS project and asking it to build > everything. (**) I would go a step further than Tim: Send me (*)

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2005-11-04 Thread David Abrahams
Bronek Kozicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Abrahams wrote: >> Who knows what the whiny babies will accept? That said, I think >> people would be happy with a .zip file containing whatever is built by >> selecting the debug build in the VS project and asking it to build >> everything. (**)

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2005-11-04 Thread David Abrahams
Tim Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [David Abrahams] >> For years, Boost.Python has been doing some hacks to work around the >> fact that a Windows Python distro doesn't include the debug build of >> the library. >> ... >> MS is recommending that we (Boost) start distributing a debug build of

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2005-11-04 Thread Thomas Heller
Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I vaguely recall that there were problems with distributing the debug > version of the MS runtime. Right: the debug runtime dlls are not disributable. > Anyway, why can't you do this yourself for all Boost users? It's all > volunteer time, you know.

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2005-11-04 Thread Tim Peters
[David Abrahams] > For years, Boost.Python has been doing some hacks to work around the > fact that a Windows Python distro doesn't include the debug build of > the library. > ... > MS is recommending that we (Boost) start distributing a debug build of the > Python DLL with Boost, but Boost really

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2005-11-04 Thread Guido van Rossum
I vaguely recall that there were problems with distributing the debug version of the MS runtime. Anyway, why can't you do this yourself for all Boost users? It's all volunteer time, you know... --Guido On 11/4/05, Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: [Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2005-11-04 Thread Charles Cazabon
David Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For years, Boost.Python has been doing some hacks to work around the fact > that a Windows Python distro doesn't include the debug build of the library. [...] > Having to download the Python source and build the debug DLL was deemed > unacceptable.

[Python-Dev] Plea to distribute debugging lib

2005-11-04 Thread David Abrahams
For years, Boost.Python has been doing some hacks to work around the fact that a Windows Python distro doesn't include the debug build of the library. http://www.boost.org/libs/python/doc/building.html#variants explains. We wanted to make it reasonably convenient for Windows developers (and