On 2010-06-19, Arc Riley wrote:
You mean Twisted support,
No. I don't.
Often, on #python, we get the situation where someone approaches us saying, I
have this problem in my python code, why does this not work for me? and
usually very quickly we establish the programmer has followed a tutorial
Stephen Thorne wrote:
On 2010-06-19, Arc Riley wrote:
You mean Twisted support,
No. I don't.
Often, on #python, we get the situation where someone approaches us saying, I
have this problem in my python code, why does this not work for me? and
usually very quickly we establish the
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 01:00:03 +0900
Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com wrote:
Given the amount of interest this thread has generated I can't help
wondering why it isn't more prominent in python.org content. Is the
developer community completely disjoint with the web content editor
community?
Am 20.06.2010 19:01, schrieb Antoine Pitrou:
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 01:00:03 +0900
Steve Holdenst...@holdenweb.com wrote:
Given the amount of interest this thread has generated I can't help
wondering why it isn't more prominent in python.org content. Is the
developer community completely
At 01:00 AM 6/21/2010 +0900, Steve Holden wrote:
If there is such a disconnect we should think about remedying it: a
large Python 2 or 3? button could link to a reasoned discussion of the
pros and cons as evinced in this thread. That way people will end up
with the right version more often (and
If there is such a disconnect we should think about remedying it: a
large Python 2 or 3? button could link to a reasoned discussion of the
pros and cons as evinced in this thread. That way people will end up
with the right version more often (and be writing Python 2 that will
more easily
On 20/06/2010 17:00, Steve Holden wrote:
[snip...]
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In writing this email to python-dev, I have reviewed my logs of #python
specifically looking for the phrase 'python 3'. Here are some packages that
were named in the conversations:
- py2exe
- cx_Freeze
- twisted
- PIL
- ctypes
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com wrote:
...snip
Given the amount of interest this thread has generated I can't help
wondering why it isn't more prominent in python.org content. Is the
developer community completely disjoint with the web content editor
On 6/20/2010 3:59 PM, Jesse Noller wrote:
I suspect; if we were to keep pushing the concept of sponsored sprints
/ bounties on Python 3 library porting, we could see things pick up
donation wise. I've long suspected that there are companies out there
who do have funds, but lack a target, and
Am 18.06.2010 um 22:53 schrieb Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu:
On 6/18/2010 12:32 PM, Walter Dörwald wrote:
http://coverage.livinglogic.de/
I am a bit puzzled as to the meaning of the gray/red/green bars
since the correlation between coverage % and bars is not very high.
The gray bar
You mean Twisted support, because library support is at the point where
there are fewer actively maintained packages not yet ported than those which
are. Of course if your Python experience is hyper-focused to one framework
that isn't ported yet, it will certainly seem like a lot, and you guys
On 19/06/2010 11:59, Arc Riley wrote:
You mean Twisted support, because library support is at the point where
there are fewer actively maintained packages not yet ported than those which
are. Of course if your Python experience is hyper-focused to one framework
that isn't ported yet, it will
anatoly techtonik writes:
I do not know what are you intending to do, but my opinion that
fund raising for patching library is a waste of money.
Of course it's not a waste of money. The need is real, so as long as
the PSF and other organizations (GSoC) choose reasonable projects/
people to
On 10:59 am, arcri...@gmail.com wrote:
You mean Twisted support, because library support is at the point where
there are fewer actively maintained packages not yet ported than those
which
are. Of course if your Python experience is hyper-focused to one
framework
that isn't ported yet, it will
Just because legacy Python needs to be kept around for a bit longer for a
few uses does not mean that Python 3 is not ready yet. Any decent package
system can have two or more versions of Python installed at the same time.
It is not critical self-evaluation to repeat Python 3 is not ready as
This anti-Py3 rhetoric is damaging to the community and needs to stop.
We're moving forward toward Python 3.2 and beyond, complaining about
it only
saps valuable developer time (including your own) from getting these
libraries you need ported faster.
No, it's not damaging. Critical
Am 19.06.2010 15:09, schrieb Arc Riley:
Just because legacy Python needs to be kept around for a bit longer for
a few uses does not mean that Python 3 is not ready yet. Any decent
package system can have two or more versions of Python installed at the
same time.
It is not critical
On 01:09 pm, arcri...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
It is not critical self-evaluation to repeat Python 3 is not ready
as
litany in #Python and your supporting website. I use the word litany
here
because #Python refers users to what appears to be a religious website
python-commandments.org is owned and hosted by the same person (Allen Short
aka dash aka washort) as pound-python.org which is the official website
for #Python and which links to it.
#Python is co-managed by Stephen Thorne (aka Jerub) and Allen Short (aka
dash aka washort). According to Freenode
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:14:51 -0400
Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com wrote:
python-commandments.org is owned and hosted by the same person (Allen Short
aka dash aka washort) as pound-python.org which is the official website
for #Python and which links to it.
#Python is co-managed by Stephen
On 19/06/2010 14:43, Georg Brandl wrote:
Am 19.06.2010 15:09, schrieb Arc Riley:
Just because legacy Python needs to be kept around for a bit longer for
a few uses does not mean that Python 3 is not ready yet. Any decent
package system can have two or more versions of Python installed at the
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com wrote:
python-commandments.org is owned and hosted by the same person (Allen Short
aka dash aka washort) as pound-python.org which is the official website
for #Python and which links to it.
#Python is co-managed by Stephen Thorne
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Dear all,
Sorry for the maybe somewhat late response but I am not a subscriber
on the python-dev mailinglists. Someone else pointed me towards this
thread and I want to shortly clarify a few things regarding the
following two statements:
It is
Steve Holden Wrote:
We are also attempting to enable tax-deductible fund raising to increase
the likelihood of David's finding support. Perhaps we need to think
about a broader campaign to increase the quality of the python 3
libraries. I find it very annoying that the #python IRC group still
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Stephen Thorne step...@thorne.id.au wrote:
We are also attempting to enable tax-deductible fund raising to increase
the likelihood of David's finding support. Perhaps we need to think
about a broader campaign to increase the quality of the python 3
libraries. I
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:19:37 pm Jesse Noller wrote:
Awesome. I plan on wasting as much money on the useless effort of
moving python 3 forward as humanly possible.
I'm sorry, but if that's sarcasm, it's far too subtle for me :(
--
Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 07:44, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Stephen Thorne step...@thorne.id.au
wrote:
We are also attempting to enable tax-deductible fund raising to increase
the likelihood of David's finding support. Perhaps we need to think
On 18.06.10 17:04, Brian Curtin wrote:
[...]
2. no code coverage (test/user story/rfc/pep)
If you know of a way to incorporate code coverage tools and metrics into
the current process, I believe a number of people would be interested.
There currently exists some coverage tool that
On 6/18/2010 12:32 PM, Walter Dörwald wrote:
http://coverage.livinglogic.de/
I am a bit puzzled as to the meaning of the gray/red/green bars since
the correlation between coverage % and bars is not very high.
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On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 13:53, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 6/18/2010 12:32 PM, Walter Dörwald wrote:
http://coverage.livinglogic.de/
I am a bit puzzled as to the meaning of the gray/red/green bars since the
correlation between coverage % and bars is not very high.
Gray is
On 6/18/2010 10:24 AM, Jesse Noller wrote:
http://jessenoller.com/2010/05/20/announcing-python-sprint-sponsorship/
This does not specify what expenses you are thinking of covering. Food
is the most obvious.
Anyway, this got me to think about offering my house at a site for US
east coast
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 6/18/2010 10:24 AM, Jesse Noller wrote:
http://jessenoller.com/2010/05/20/announcing-python-sprint-sponsorship/
This does not specify what expenses you are thinking of covering. Food is
the most obvious.
Anyway, this
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