Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-10-10 Thread Jesus Cea
On 03/09/14 02:37, Antoine Pitrou wrote: I'm not sure that's an answer to the problem. What we need is not more machines, but dedicated buildbot maintainers. I would love to get an email if my buildbots are consistently RED for a few hours. In the past Antoine, Victor and others pinged me

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-10-10 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 2:45 AM, Jesus Cea j...@jcea.es wrote: On 03/09/14 02:37, Antoine Pitrou wrote: I'm not sure that's an answer to the problem. What we need is not more machines, but dedicated buildbot maintainers. I would love to get an email if my buildbots are consistently RED for a

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-10-10 Thread Jesus Cea
On 10/10/14 17:56, Chris Angelico wrote: Could I write a little monitor at my end that asks every hour if my buildbots can be seen? AFAIK maintainers already get an email if the buildbot vanishes long enough. I am more interested in getting an email when my buildbot is consistently red because

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-10-10 Thread Jesus Cea
On 10/10/14 17:45, Jesus Cea wrote: Thanks for your patience and for notifying me issues when you suffer them. Another issue is changes that actually breaks buildbots and I don't actually know where to start debugging. For instance, currently:

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-10-10 Thread Benjamin Peterson
It's https://bugs.python.org/issue19884 On Fri, Oct 10, 2014, at 12:08, R. David Murray wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 18:00:06 +0200, Jesus Cea j...@jcea.es wrote: On 10/10/14 17:56, Chris Angelico wrote: Could I write a little monitor at my end that asks every hour if my buildbots can be

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-10-10 Thread R. David Murray
On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 18:00:06 +0200, Jesus Cea j...@jcea.es wrote: On 10/10/14 17:56, Chris Angelico wrote: Could I write a little monitor at my end that asks every hour if my buildbots can be seen? AFAIK maintainers already get an email if the buildbot vanishes long enough. I am more

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-10-10 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:08:54 -0400 R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 18:00:06 +0200, Jesus Cea j...@jcea.es wrote: On 10/10/14 17:56, Chris Angelico wrote: Could I write a little monitor at my end that asks every hour if my buildbots can be seen? AFAIK

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-08 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote: ARMv7 3.x: Read-only file system, Mercurial fails... I sent an email to Gregory P. Smith (owner). For mine, its a case of me not having any monitoring for it. Sending me an email worked. In this case the SSD (a

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-07 Thread Antonio Cavallo
Ok, I've put everything under the tools directory of the build server for the project home:cavallo71:opt-python-interpreters: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:cavallo71:opt-python-interpreters/tools To get started you need using the osc client (it uses the same subversion

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-07 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 8 Sep 2014 04:51, Antonio Cavallo a.cava...@cavallinux.eu wrote: Ok, I've put everything under the tools directory of the build server for the project home:cavallo71:opt-python-interpreters: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:cavallo71:opt-python-interpreters/tools To get

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-04 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 4 September 2014 15:45, Shorya Raj rajsho...@gmail.com wrote: Also, have you considered using Travis? It would allow us to add to the configurations, at least generally... Many SaaS solution assume the use of specific centralised identity providers, which isn't a function we're prepared to

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-04 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 4 September 2014 16:59, Shorya Raj rajsho...@gmail.com wrote: The limiting factor is generally time - various aspects of the current system are clumsy, but they work, so unless someone is particularly keen and willing to work through all the factors that led to the current setup and propose

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-04 Thread A. Cavallo
Yes there are details indeed. But not show stoppers. A prototype can be seen here: http://cclimited.webfactional.com The nice bit is testing will be executed in a total fresh instance, an added bonus On 4 September 2014 05:16:01 GMT+01:00, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 September

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-04 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 4 September 2014 18:50, A. Cavallo a.cava...@cavallinux.eu wrote: Yes there are details indeed. But not show stoppers. A prototype can be seen here: http://cclimited.webfactional.com The nice bit is testing will be executed in a total fresh instance, an added bonus Oh, very nice! What is

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-04 Thread Shorya Raj
Also, have you considered using Travis? It would allow us to add to the configurations, at least generally... On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 September 2014 11:07, Antonio Cavallo a.cava...@cavallinux.eu wrote: I wonder if there is any interest in

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-04 Thread Shorya Raj
The limiting factor is generally time - various aspects of the current system are clumsy, but they work, so unless someone is particularly keen and willing to work through all the factors that led to the current setup and propose changes (including at least a rough concept of how ongoing

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-04 Thread Shorya Raj
And so what would need to be done to rectify this problem? If there are no objections, I would like to resolve this particular point, at least until better people can be found to do so. On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:50 PM, A. Cavallo a.cava...@cavallinux.eu wrote: Yes there are details indeed. But

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-04 Thread Antonio Cavallo
Setting up a repo with the code and cleaning a bit here and there. Over the weekend I can put something useable. Nick Coghlan wrote: On 4 September 2014 18:50, A. Cavalloa.cava...@cavallinux.eu wrote: Yes there are details indeed. But not show stoppers. A prototype can be seen here:

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-03 Thread Christian Staffa
Hi all I am using buildbot now for some time and i would be willing to contribute on that. I had small work on openstack buildbot slave but had not the proper infrastructure to get more value out of it. I like that project and automation. Anyway, if i could be of help let me know (; Short to

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-03 Thread Shorya Raj
As mentioned, I don't mind sysadmining a bit, if required. My primary joy would be helping code python, but can't seem to figure out the ideal place to start doing so. Therefore, helping out as sysadmin would be a good start. On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au wrote:

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-03 Thread francis
[...] But it does mean a measure of trust in some external entity, or else some very careful rules (mainly firewall), which not every coder will know about. Just curious, is there a way to mount the infrastructure the oder way around? One sets a system polling for sources changes, if so it

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-03 Thread Victor Stinner
2014-09-03 0:13 GMT+02:00 Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com: AMD64 OpenIndiana 3.x: a lot of tests fail with OSError(12, Not enough space) or MemoryError. It's probably on issue on the host. x86 OpenIndiana 3.x: MemoryError. TestReadline.test_init() also fails. I sent an email to Jesus

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-03 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:32 AM, francis franci...@email.de wrote: does mean a measure of trust in some external entity, or else some very careful rules (mainly firewall), which not every coder will know about. Just curious, is there a way to mount the infrastructure the oder way around? One

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-03 Thread Antonio Cavallo
I wonder if there is any interest in starting to use the opensuse build servers for continuous build and testing on redhat, fedora suse and (I think) debian: that will solve once for all the maintenance issues on those platforms (and provide a reliable build). Regards, Antonio

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-03 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 4 September 2014 11:07, Antonio Cavallo a.cava...@cavallinux.eu wrote: I wonder if there is any interest in starting to use the opensuse build servers for continuous build and testing on redhat, fedora suse and (I think) debian: that will solve once for all the maintenance issues on those

[Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-02 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, I'm using Python buildbots to ensure that my changes don't fail on some platform. It's important for changes close to the operation system. The problem is that many buildbots are ill. Before, only a few buildbots had sporadic failures. Now most buildbots are always fail (are red). Here is

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-02 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 3 Sep 2014 08:15, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote: x86 RHEL 6 3.x: TestReadline.test_init() fails, issue #19884. I don't have to this platform, I don't know how to fix it. Sorry, I haven't been a very good maintainer for that buildbot (the main reason it never graduated to the

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-02 Thread Brian Curtin
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 Sep 2014 08:15, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote: x86 RHEL 6 3.x: TestReadline.test_init() fails, issue #19884. I don't have to this platform, I don't know how to fix it. Sorry, I haven't been a

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-02 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 3 Sep 2014 09:00, Brian Curtin br...@python.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: From a completely different perspective, does anyone have experience with using BuildBot with OpenStack hosted clients? We may be able to take advantage of the PSF's

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-02 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 03Sep2014 00:13, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote: AMD64 Snow Leop 3.x: many tests are not reliable (stable) on this platform. For example, test_logging.test_race() sometimes fail with PermissionError(1, Operation not permitted: '/tmp/test_logging-3-bjulw8iz.log'). Another

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 00:13:22 +0200 Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote: AMD64 Snow Leop 3.x: many tests are not reliable (stable) on this platform. For example, test_logging.test_race() sometimes fail with PermissionError(1, Operation not permitted:

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 08:53:51 +1000 Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 Sep 2014 08:15, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote: x86 RHEL 6 3.x: TestReadline.test_init() fails, issue #19884. I don't have to this platform, I don't know how to fix it. Sorry, I haven't been a

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-02 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Nick Coghlan writes: Sorry, I haven't been a very good maintainer for that buildbot (the main reason it never graduated to the stable list). If you send me your public SSH key, I can add it (I think - if not, I can ask Luke to do it). Alternatively, CentOS 6 may exhibit the same problem.

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: Nick Coghlan writes: Sorry, I haven't been a very good maintainer for that buildbot (the main reason it never graduated to the stable list). If you send me your public SSH key, I can add it (I think - if not,

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-02 Thread Shorya Raj
Hello all I don't mind helping out with maintaining buildbots / other build machines. Although I don't have a lot of experience with this sort of thing (I usually just ran a Jenkins for my own work), I think it would be a useful way to contribute. Let me know what I should do if you are all fine

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

2014-09-02 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 03Sep2014 11:47, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: Nick Coghlan writes: Sorry, I haven't been a very good maintainer for that buildbot (the main reason it never graduated to the stable list). If you send me your public SSH key, I can add it (I think - if not, I can ask Luke to