Re: [Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-04 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 09:55:10AM +0200, Petr Viktorin wrote: > Is paying the best way to get features into Python? No, but it is *a* way to get features into Python. It may be a good way to get a feature that is important to (generic) you, but the core devs don't have enough time, interest

Re: [Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-04 Thread Michael Felt
On 10/4/2018 9:55 AM, Petr Viktorin wrote: > On 10/4/18 9:34 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: >> Hi, >> >> If IBM wants a better Python support, it would help a lot if IBM pays >> for this development. I agree. If IBM ... >> ... Antoine Pitrou has been paid in the past to enhance Python >> support in

Re: [Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-04 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 10/4/18 9:34 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: Hi, If IBM wants a better Python support, it would help a lot if IBM pays for this development. With money, you can easily find core dev contractors. Antoine Pitrou has been paid in the past to enhance Python support in Solaris and it worked well.

Re: [Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-04 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, If IBM wants a better Python support, it would help a lot if IBM pays for this development. With money, you can easily find core dev contractors. Antoine Pitrou has been paid in the past to enhance Python support in Solaris and it worked well. Victor Le mercredi 3 octobre 2018, Michael Felt

Re: [Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-03 Thread Michael Felt
On 10/3/2018 1:46 AM, Neil Schemenauer wrote: > On 2018-10-02, Michael Felt wrote: >> I am sorry, for myself obviously - but also for Python. Obviously, I am >> doing it all wrong - as I see lots of other issues being picked up >> immediately. > I'm not sure that's the case. There are a lot of

Re: [Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-03 Thread Michael Felt
On 10/3/2018 2:48 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 10/2/2018 7:16 PM, Michael Felt wrote: >> >> >> On 10/2/2018 11:34 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: >>> On 10/2/2018 12:41 PM, Simon Cross wrote: Are there any core devs that Michael or Erik could collaborate with? Rather than rely on adhoc patch

Re: [Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-03 Thread Erik Bray
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:54 PM Michael Felt wrote: > > > > On 10/2/2018 4:45 PM, Erik Bray wrote: > > Michael, if there are any PRs you want to point me to that I might be > > able to help review please do. > A little trick I learned: >

Re: [Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-03 Thread Erik Bray
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 6:41 PM Simon Cross wrote: > > Are there any core devs that Michael or Erik could collaborate with? > Rather than rely on adhoc patch review from random core developers. > > Michael and Eric: Question -- are you interested in becoming core > developers at least for the

Re: [Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-02 Thread Terry Reedy
On 10/2/2018 7:16 PM, Michael Felt wrote: On 10/2/2018 11:34 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 10/2/2018 12:41 PM, Simon Cross wrote: Are there any core devs that Michael or Erik could collaborate with? Rather than rely on adhoc patch review from random core developers. You two might collaborate

Re: [Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-02 Thread Neil Schemenauer
On 2018-10-02, Michael Felt wrote: > I am sorry, for myself obviously - but also for Python. Obviously, I am > doing it all wrong - as I see lots of other issues being picked up > immediately. I'm not sure that's the case. There are a lot of PRs or bugs that sit there without getting reviews.

Re: [Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-02 Thread Michael Felt
On 10/2/2018 11:34 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 10/2/2018 12:41 PM, Simon Cross wrote: >> Are there any core devs that Michael or Erik could collaborate with? >> Rather than rely on adhoc patch review from random core developers. > > You two might collaborate with each other to the extent of

Re: [Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-02 Thread Terry Reedy
On 10/2/2018 12:41 PM, Simon Cross wrote: Are there any core devs that Michael or Erik could collaborate with? Rather than rely on adhoc patch review from random core developers. You two might collaborate with each other to the extent of reviewing some of each other's PRs. That still leaves

Re: [Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-02 Thread Michael Felt
On 10/2/2018 4:45 PM, Erik Bray wrote: > Michael, if there are any PRs you want to point me to that I might be > able to help review please do. A little trick I learned: https://github.com/python/cpython/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+author%3Aaixtools+sort%3Aupdated-desc lists them all. What

Re: [Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-02 Thread Michael Felt
I am willing to assist as best I can with AIX - I seem to have the core requirements re: time available: (i.e., over-comitted at work, but 'work' evenings and weekends on OSS :p) On 10/2/2018 6:41 PM, Simon Cross wrote: > Are there any core devs that Michael or Erik could collaborate with? >

Re: [Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-02 Thread Simon Cross
Are there any core devs that Michael or Erik could collaborate with? Rather than rely on adhoc patch review from random core developers. Michael and Eric: Question -- are you interested in becoming core developers at least for the purposes of maintaining these platforms in future?

Re: [Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-02 Thread Erik Bray
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 3:53 AM Tres Seaver wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/01/2018 06:41 PM, Michael Felt wrote: > > > And, while you may not give a damn about anything other than Windows, > > macos and/or Linux - there are other platforms that would like a >

Re: [Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-01 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/01/2018 06:41 PM, Michael Felt wrote: > And, while you may not give a damn about anything other than Windows, > macos and/or Linux - there are other platforms that would like a > stable Python. Michael, I can understand the frustration you

Re: [Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-01 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Hi Michael, and welcome, On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 12:41:56AM +0200, Michael Felt wrote: [...] > FYI: since the end of July I have dedicated 16 to 24 hours of my free > time to get this done. All for Python; all in my freetime. My employer > does not care - I do, or did. [...] > I am, to put it

[Python-Dev] dear core-devs

2018-10-01 Thread Michael Felt
Dear core-devs, I have some bad characteristics. I can be extremely enthusiastic - and write too much. I have been trying to not write - anything - worried that my enthusiasm is not matched by yours, or worse was a reason to ignore my work to get AIX passing all tests. FYI: since the end of