Re: [Python-Dev] death to 2.7; long live 2.7

2014-04-10 Thread Paul Moore
On 10 April 2014 02:58, Benjamin Peterson wrote: >> What will a lack of provided installers do to Windows support? It's >> easy enough on Linux to say "either build it from source, or let your >> upstream package provider build it for you", but AIUI, most Windows >> users want to get a ready-made

Re: [Python-Dev] death to 2.7; long live 2.7

2014-04-10 Thread Christian Heimes
On 10.04.2014 04:16, Guido van Rossum wrote: > Yeah, this was mentioned a few times. I quipped to Nick that Red Hat's > biggest contribution might be to take over the Windows Installer, but > didn't bite. :-) > > But there's always the PSF. We may try to find some folks we trust with > relevant ex

Re: [Python-Dev] death to 2.7; long live 2.7

2014-04-10 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 10/04/2014 04:09, Senthil Kumaran a écrit : On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Benjamin Peterson mailto:benja...@python.org>> wrote: I consider the security enhancement/feature question to be in the domain of PEP 466. If security stuff lands in the 2.7 branch, it will get released

Re: [Python-Dev] death to 2.7; long live 2.7

2014-04-09 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 9 Apr 2014 22:11, "Guido van Rossum" wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014, at 18:31, Guido van Rossum wrote: >> > I think this is pretty much what Nick Coghlan implied at the summit. >> >> He implied that it's currently the plan or

Re: [Python-Dev] death to 2.7; long live 2.7

2014-04-09 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Guido van Rossum wrote: > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > > It's not that I don't think Windows installers are important, but rather > > that Martin has indicated he is (completely reasonably) not interested > > in indefinitely making 2.7 installers. > Y

Re: [Python-Dev] death to 2.7; long live 2.7

2014-04-09 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014, at 18:43, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Benjamin Peterson > > > wrote: > > > Planning-on-making-2.7-releases-'til-the-cows-come-home-ly yours, > > > > Past 2.7.9, will you make 2.7.10 etc

Re: [Python-Dev] death to 2.7; long live 2.7

2014-04-09 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014, at 18:43, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Benjamin Peterson > > > wrote: > > > Planning-on-making-2.7-releases-'til-the-cows-come-home-ly yours, > > > > Past 2.7.9, will you make 2.7.10 etc

Re: [Python-Dev] death to 2.7; long live 2.7

2014-04-09 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014, at 19:09, Senthil Kumaran wrote: > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Benjamin Peterson > >> Instead dealing 2.7 will just be completely optional for core developers > > I was worried about this part, that if bug-fixes are > optionally back-ported, then we may end up a inconsi

Re: [Python-Dev] death to 2.7; long live 2.7

2014-04-09 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014, at 18:31, Guido van Rossum wrote: > > I think this is pretty much what Nick Coghlan implied at the summit. > > He implied that it's currently the plan or that it should be the plan? > As you might understand, we c

Re: [Python-Dev] death to 2.7; long live 2.7

2014-04-09 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > I consider the security enhancement/feature question to be in the domain > of PEP 466. If security stuff lands in the 2.7 branch, it will get > released eventually is all I'm saying. > Thanks for the response. >> Instead dealing 2.7 wil

Re: [Python-Dev] death to 2.7; long live 2.7

2014-04-09 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014, at 18:31, Guido van Rossum wrote: > > I think this is pretty much what Nick Coghlan implied at the summit. > > He implied that it's currently the plan or that it should be the plan? > As you might understand, we c

Re: [Python-Dev] death to 2.7; long live 2.7

2014-04-09 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014, at 18:46, Senthil Kumaran wrote: > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Benjamin Peterson > wrote: > > > Instead dealing 2.7 will just be completely optional for core > > developers. (The much anticipated vendor support arrives at this point.) > > > > Could you clarify your thoug

Re: [Python-Dev] death to 2.7; long live 2.7

2014-04-09 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014, at 18:43, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Benjamin Peterson > wrote: > > Planning-on-making-2.7-releases-'til-the-cows-come-home-ly yours, > > Past 2.7.9, will you make 2.7.10 etc, or does that violate other > policies? I'm not aware that two digit

Re: [Python-Dev] death to 2.7; long live 2.7

2014-04-09 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > Instead dealing 2.7 will just be completely optional for core > developers. (The much anticipated vendor support arrives at this point.) > Could you clarify your thoughts a bit on the "completely optional" part. What if vendors take a rea

Re: [Python-Dev] death to 2.7; long live 2.7

2014-04-09 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > Planning-on-making-2.7-releases-'til-the-cows-come-home-ly yours, Past 2.7.9, will you make 2.7.10 etc, or does that violate other policies? What will a lack of provided installers do to Windows support? It's easy enough on Linux to sa

Re: [Python-Dev] death to 2.7; long live 2.7

2014-04-09 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014, at 18:31, Guido van Rossum wrote: > I think this is pretty much what Nick Coghlan implied at the summit. He implied that it's currently the plan or that it should be the plan? ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https

Re: [Python-Dev] death to 2.7; long live 2.7

2014-04-09 Thread Guido van Rossum
I think this is pretty much what Nick Coghlan implied at the summit. On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > This email is to share idea that has been bouncing around in my head for > a while about 2.7 releases. Guido's last email containing notes from the > language summit ma