Re: [Python-Dev] test___all__ polluting sys.modules?

2012-12-31 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2012-12-30 15:48:30 R. David Murray napisał(a): > On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 00:38:47 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > However, specifically spinning out the "import the world" tests like > > test_pydoc and test___all__ to a separate process might be worth the > > effort. > > Adding something to regertest

Re: [Python-Dev] BDFL delegate for Daniel Holth's packaging PEPs?

2012-12-31 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:40:39 +1000 Nick Coghlan wrote: > Does anyone object to my naming myself as BDFL-Delegate for Daniel > Holth's packaging PEPs? > > PEP 425 Compatibility Tags for Built Distributions > PEP 426 Metadata for Python Software Packages 1.3 > PEP 427 The Wheel Binary Package Fo

Re: [Python-Dev] BDFL delegate for Daniel Holth's packaging PEPs?

2012-12-31 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On 12/31/12 12:44 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:40:39 +1000 Nick Coghlan wrote: Does anyone object to my naming myself as BDFL-Delegate for Daniel Holth's packaging PEPs? PEP 425 Compatibility Tags for Built Distributions PEP 426 Metadata for Python Software Packages 1.3 P

Re: [Python-Dev] BDFL delegate for Daniel Holth's packaging PEPs?

2012-12-31 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:36:23 +0100 Tarek Ziadé wrote: > On 12/31/12 12:44 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:40:39 +1000 > > Nick Coghlan wrote: > >> Does anyone object to my naming myself as BDFL-Delegate for Daniel > >> Holth's packaging PEPs? > >> > >> PEP 425 Compatibility

Re: [Python-Dev] Draft PEP for time zone support.

2012-12-31 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > If I've understood it correctly, that contradicts the PEP. One example > given is "Etc/GMT+11", which is not a timezone *name*, but a timezone > name *plus an offset*. Presumably if GMT+11 is legal, so should be > GMT+10:30. > This depend

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 431 Time zone support improvements - Update

2012-12-31 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > The module could be split into several modules in a package without > affecting the public API if that would help with maintenance, simular to > unittest. > This is of course true. Maybe that is a good idea. //Lennart ___

[Python-Dev] FYI: don't CC the peps mailing list

2012-12-31 Thread Brett Cannon
Since this has happened for the second time in the past month, I want to prevent a trend from starting here. Please do not CC the peps mailing list on any discussions as it makes it impossible to know what emails are about an actual update vs. people replying to some discussion which in no way affe

Re: [Python-Dev] BDFL delegate for Daniel Holth's packaging PEPs?

2012-12-31 Thread R. David Murray
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:51:08 +0100, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:36:23 +0100 > Tarek Ziadé wrote: > > On 12/31/12 12:44 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > > On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:40:39 +1000 > > > Nick Coghlan wrote: > > >> Does anyone object to my naming myself as BDFL-Delegate f

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] peps: Further PEP 432 updates

2012-12-31 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 8:39 AM, nick.coghlan wrote: > [SNIP] > The ``-E`` command line option allows all environment variables to be > -ignored when initialising the Python interpreter. An embedding application > +ignored when initializing the Python interpreter. An embedding application > can

[Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken links on http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/#activetcl-8-5-11

2012-12-31 Thread Michael Foord
There's a problem with the instructions for using Active TCL with Python for the Mac. Michael Begin forwarded message: > From: "Dr. Anthony G. Francis, Jr." > Subject: Broken links on > http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/#activetcl-8-5-11 > Date: 19 December 2012 22:08:02 GMT > To: web

Re: [Python-Dev] BDFL delegate for Daniel Holth's packaging PEPs?

2012-12-31 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > On 12/31/12 12:44 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> >> On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:40:39 +1000 >> Nick Coghlan wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone object to my naming myself as BDFL-Delegate for Daniel >>> Holth's packaging PEPs? >>> >>> PEP 425 Compatibility

Re: [Python-Dev] test___all__ polluting sys.modules?

2012-12-31 Thread Eli Bendersky
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 1:45 AM, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis < arfrever@gmail.com> wrote: > 2012-12-30 15:48:30 R. David Murray napisał(a): > > On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 00:38:47 +1000, Nick Coghlan > wrote: > > > However, specifically spinning out the "import the world" tests like > > > te

Re: [Python-Dev] test___all__ polluting sys.modules?

2012-12-31 Thread Richard Oudkerk
On 30/12/2012 9:52pm, Antoine Pitrou wrote: If you have an object with a __del__ method as a module global, the cyclic gc will refuse to consider the module globals at all (which means it will affect unrelated objects). So, yes, I think the shutdown purge is still necessary. Perhaps there are wa

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken links on http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/#activetcl-8-5-11

2012-12-31 Thread Ned Deily
In article <5702d9ff-5a6a-4131-a093-1054155d4...@voidspace.org.uk>, Michael Foord wrote: > There's a problem with the instructions for using Active TCL with Python for > the Mac. No longer an issue: I updated the web page on 12-26: Revision history € 2012-12-26 - updated for ActiveTcl 8.5

Re: [Python-Dev] test___all__ polluting sys.modules?

2012-12-31 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Eli Bendersky wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >> On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Benjamin Peterson >> wrote: >> > 2012/12/29 Eli Bendersky : >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> This came up while investigating some test-order-dependency fa

Re: [Python-Dev] test___all__ polluting sys.modules?

2012-12-31 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 6:48 AM, R. David Murray wrote: > On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 00:38:47 +1000, Nick Coghlan > wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Eli Bendersky > wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Stefan Krah > wrote: > > >> > > >> Eli Bendersky wrote: > > >> > Yes, this is

[Python-Dev] Branch ancestry hiccup on the Mercurial repo

2012-12-31 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Hello, For the record, due to a bug in the "hg graft" command, a recent changeset of mine basically merged branch 2.7 into 3.2: $ hg log -r "ee8d999b6e05 or parents(ee8d999b6e05)" -G ochangeset: 81129:ee8d999b6e05 |\ branch: 3.2 | | parent: 81124:e4ea38a92c4d | | parent: