[Python-Dev] Fix Unicode-disabled build of Python 2.7

2014-06-24 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
I submitted a number of patches which fixes currently broken Unicode-disabled build of Python 2.7 (built with --disable-unicode configure option). I suppose this was broken in 2.7 when C implementation of the io module was introduced. http://bugs.python.org/issue21833 -- main patch which fixes

Re: [Python-Dev] Fix Unicode-disabled build of Python 2.7

2014-06-24 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, I don't know anyone building Python without Unicode. I would prefer to modify configure to raise an error, and drop #ifdef in the code. (Stop supporting building Python 2 without Unicode.) Building Python 2 without Unicode support is not an innocent change. Python is moving strongly to Unicod

Re: [Python-Dev] Fix Unicode-disabled build of Python 2.7

2014-06-24 Thread Skip Montanaro
I can't see any reason to make a backwards-incompatible change to Python 2 to only support Unicode. You're bound to break somebody's setup. Wouldn't it be better to fix bugs as Serhiy has done? Skip ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https

Re: [Python-Dev] Fix Unicode-disabled build of Python 2.7

2014-06-24 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 24/06/2014 07:04, Skip Montanaro a écrit : I can't see any reason to make a backwards-incompatible change to Python 2 to only support Unicode. You're bound to break somebody's setup. Apparently, that setup would already have been broken for years. Regards Antoine. ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Fix Unicode-disabled build of Python 2.7

2014-06-24 Thread Victor Stinner
2014-06-24 13:04 GMT+02:00 Skip Montanaro : > I can't see any reason to make a backwards-incompatible change to > Python 2 to only support Unicode. You're bound to break somebody's > setup. Wouldn't it be better to fix bugs as Serhiy has done? According to the long list of issues, I don't think th

Re: [Python-Dev] Fix Unicode-disabled build of Python 2.7

2014-06-24 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
24.06.14 14:50, Victor Stinner написав(ла): 2014-06-24 13:04 GMT+02:00 Skip Montanaro : I can't see any reason to make a backwards-incompatible change to Python 2 to only support Unicode. You're bound to break somebody's setup. Wouldn't it be better to fix bugs as Serhiy has done? According to

Re: [Python-Dev] Fix Unicode-disabled build of Python 2.7

2014-06-24 Thread Terry Reedy
On 6/24/2014 4:22 AM, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: I submitted a number of patches which fixes currently broken Unicode-disabled build of Python 2.7 (built with --disable-unicode configure option). I suppose this was broken in 2.7 when C implementation of the io module was introduced. http://bugs.pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] Fix Unicode-disabled build of Python 2.7

2014-06-24 Thread Benjamin Peterson
If Serhiy wants to spend his time supporting this arcane feature, he can do that. It doesn't really seem worth risking regressions to do this, though. On Tue, Jun 24, 2014, at 01:55, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > I don't know anyone building Python without Unicode. I would prefer to > modify co

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker Stats

2014-06-24 Thread francis
On 06/24/2014 03:50 AM, Ezio Melotti wrote: From the first graph you can see that out of the 4500+ open issues, about 2000 have a patch. One would like to start with the ones that are bugs ;-) and see some status line trying to drop to 0 (is that possible :-) ?) We need more reviewers and com

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker Stats

2014-06-24 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:43:41 +0200, francis wrote: > On 06/24/2014 03:50 AM, Ezio Melotti wrote: > >>From the first graph you can see that out of the 4500+ open issues, > > about 2000 have a patch. > One would like to start with the ones that are bugs ;-) and see some > status line trying to drop

Re: [Python-Dev] Fix Unicode-disabled build of Python 2.7

2014-06-24 Thread Ned Deily
In article <1403625970.6550.133062453.693ec...@webmail.messagingengine.com>, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > If Serhiy wants to spend his time supporting this arcane feature, he can > do that. It doesn't really seem worth risking regressions to do this, > though. That's why I'm concerned about apply

Re: [Python-Dev] Fix Unicode-disabled build of Python 2.7

2014-06-24 Thread Ethan Furman
On 06/24/2014 12:54 PM, Ned Deily wrote: Yes, we are committed to maintaining Python 2.7 for multiple years but that doesn't mean we have to fix every open issue or even most open issues. Any or all of the above costs may apply to any changes we make. For many of our users, the best maintenanc

Re: [Python-Dev] Fix Unicode-disabled build of Python 2.7

2014-06-24 Thread Jim J. Jewett
On 6/24/2014 4:22 AM, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: > I submitted a number of patches which fixes currently broken > Unicode-disabled build of Python 2.7 (built with --disable-unicode > configure option). I suppose this was broken in 2.7 when C > implementation of the io module was introduced. It has

Re: [Python-Dev] Fix Unicode-disabled build of Python 2.7

2014-06-24 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 25 Jun 2014 07:05, "Ethan Furman" wrote: > > On 06/24/2014 12:54 PM, Ned Deily wrote: >> >> >> Yes, we are committed to maintaining >> Python 2.7 for multiple years but that doesn't mean we have to fix every >> open issue or even most open issues. Any or all of the above costs may >> apply to