[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 05:43:26PM -0700, Ethan Furman wrote: > It works, but I wouldn't say "quite well" -- any thread from discourse is > one long linear series of replies, and reading them in chronological order > means jumping around and trying to figure what is a reply to what. Sometimes,

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Cameron Simpson writes: > On 21Jul2022 17:46, Christopher Barker wrote: > >OT: > >Does anyone else find it very odd to call a communication system > >“discord”? > > I think it is a refreshing level of honesty about what live chat is > like. As in "discordant". I would refine "live

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread David Mertz, Ph.D.
I feel similarly as Steven. I'm even less important to the development of CPython than he is. But like him, switching to Discourse means I simply won't try to follow development. Mailing list are friendly and easily manageable. In the small amount I've used Discourse, it feels unwieldy and less

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Jonathan Goble
On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 6:47 PM Steven Barker wrote: > On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 6:28 AM Petr Viktorin wrote: > >> On 16. 07. 22 8:48, Miro Hrončok wrote: >> > On 15. 07. 22 13:18, Petr Viktorin wrote: >> >> - You can use discuss.python.org's “mailing list mode” (which >> >> subscribes you to all

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Eric Snow
On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 12:19 AM Stefan Behnel wrote: > I'm actually reading python-dev, c.l.py etc. through Gmane, and have done > that ever since I joined. Simply because it's a mailing list of which I > don't need a local (content) copy, and wouldn't want one. Gmane seems to > have a complete

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 07:59:46 +0200 Stefan Behnel wrote: > h.vetin...@gmx.com schrieb am 18.07.22 um 18:04: > > One of the comments in the retro was: > >> Searching the archives is much easier and have found me many old threads > >> that I probably would have problem finding before since I

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Mats Wichmann
On 7/21/22 11:11, Mariatta wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 10:05 AM Skip Montanaro > mailto:skip.montan...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I have a perhaps stupid question. Is Discord the same as > discuss.python.org , just by another > name? I find the

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread MRAB
On 21/07/2022 18:53, Mats Wichmann wrote: On 7/21/22 11:11, Mariatta wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 10:05 AM Skip Montanaro mailto:skip.montan...@gmail.com>> wrote: I have a perhaps stupid question. Is Discord the same as discuss.python.org , just by

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 21Jul2022 17:46, Christopher Barker wrote: >OT: >Does anyone else find it very odd to call a communication system >“discord”? I think it is a refreshing level of honesty about what live chat is like. As in "discordant". Cheers, Cameron Simpson

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Steven Barker
On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 6:28 AM Petr Viktorin wrote: > On 16. 07. 22 8:48, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 15. 07. 22 13:18, Petr Viktorin wrote: > >> - You can use discuss.python.org's “mailing list mode” (which > >> subscribes you to all new posts), possibly with filtering and/or > >> categorizing

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Jonathan Goble
On Thu, Jul 21, 2022, 15:26 Baptiste Carvello < devel2...@baptiste-carvello.net> wrote: > Le 21/07/2022 à 07:59, Stefan Behnel a écrit : > > > > I'm actually reading python-dev, c.l.py etc. through Gmane, and have > > done that ever since I joined. Simply because it's a mailing list of > > which

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 21Jul2022 15:42, Steven Barker wrote: >So last night I tried activating mailing list mode, and I'm not >remotely >satisfied with the experience so far. Where mailing lists are concerned, >I'm *only *subscribed to python-dev. Not python-users, not -ideas, not >-packaging (if that's still a

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Christopher Barker
OT: Does anyone else find it very odd to call a communication system “discord”? dis·cord /ˈdiskôrd/ *noun* 1. 1. disagreement between people. "a prosperous family who showed no signs of discord" “Naming things is hard” — but really? -CHB -- Christopher Barker, PhD (Chris)

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 at 03:07, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > I have a perhaps stupid question. Is Discord the same as > discuss.python.org, just by another name? I find the similarity in > names a bit confusing. > No, Discord is a different thing; it does text and voice communication channels in

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Joshua Herman
To demystify why you want to boost (I am in the python discord and other non gaming and gaming chats) it unlocks better features but the core experence of chat still exists . Basically voice chat goes up to 384kbps steams go up to 1080p quality and you get a 100MB upload limit. I know that

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Mariatta
On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 10:20 AM Samuel Colvin wrote: > > If discord is not finalised, we might also consider https://zulip.com/ > which rust uses and would (based on a > very quick look) appear to be more appropriate for python development's use > case? > > >

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Baptiste Carvello
Le 21/07/2022 à 03:29, Stephen J. Turnbull a écrit : > > I can't speak to 1 and 2, and I can't speak to cost of resource usage > for 3, but it would be possible to have a Mailman list that has no > subscribers, prohibits subscription, and allows only a small number of > authorized posters, one of

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Mariatta
On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 10:05 AM Skip Montanaro wrote: > I have a perhaps stupid question. Is Discord the same as > discuss.python.org, just by another name? I find the similarity in > names a bit confusing. > > It's not the same. discuss.python.org is an instance of Discourse. Discord is

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Samuel Colvin
Hi, no I think "discord" refers to https://discord.com/ If discord is not finalised, we might also consider https://zulip.com/ which rust uses and would (based on a very quick look) appear to be more appropriate for python development's use case? Samuel --

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Mats Wichmann
On 7/21/22 11:16, Skip Montanaro wrote: >> No, Discord is a different thing; it does text and voice communication >> channels in real-time. If you're familiar with Slack, it's broadly >> similar in purpose. > > Thanks (and to the others who replied). It seems like they've tried to > make it a

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Baptiste Carvello
Le 21/07/2022 à 07:59, Stefan Behnel a écrit : > > I'm actually reading python-dev, c.l.py etc. through Gmane, and have > done that ever since I joined. Simply because it's a mailing list of > which I don't need a local (content) copy, and wouldn't want one. Gmane > seems to have a complete

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Skip Montanaro
> No, Discord is a different thing; it does text and voice communication > channels in real-time. If you're familiar with Slack, it's broadly > similar in purpose. Thanks (and to the others who replied). It seems like they've tried to make it a game, giving me the "opportunity" to buy boosts (or

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 at 03:17, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > > No, Discord is a different thing; it does text and voice communication > > channels in real-time. If you're familiar with Slack, it's broadly > > similar in purpose. > > Thanks (and to the others who replied). It seems like they've tried

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 10:34 AM Skip Montanaro wrote: > > No, Discord is a different thing; it does text and voice communication > > channels in real-time. If you're familiar with Slack, it's broadly > > similar in purpose. > > Thanks (and to the others who replied). FYI this multiple

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Skip Montanaro
I have a perhaps stupid question. Is Discord the same as discuss.python.org, just by another name? I find the similarity in names a bit confusing. Skip ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Terry Reedy
On 7/21/2022 8:46 PM, Christopher Barker wrote: OT: Does anyone else find it very odd to call a communication system “discord”? For games, most of which involve combat, it seems appropriate. For CPython development, 'harmony' might be better. -- Terry Jan Reedy

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 21Jul2022 13:25, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Cameron Simpson writes: > > Discourse does not do `In-Reply-To:` very well at all. Here's some > > headers from the _second_ post in the "Core dev sprint this year" > > thread: > > > > Message-ID: > > > > In-Reply-To: > > References:

[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

2022-07-21 Thread Stefan Behnel
h.vetin...@gmx.com schrieb am 18.07.22 um 18:04: One of the comments in the retro was: Searching the archives is much easier and have found me many old threads that I probably would have problem finding before since I haven’t been subscribed for that long. I'm actually reading python-dev,