On 25/09/2010 04:25, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
1. Return the case of a filename in some canonical form which depends
on the file system?
2. Return the case of a filename as it is actually stored on disk?
How do 1 and 2 differ? FWIW, the use case that setuptools has (and for
which it
On 25/09/2010 15:45, Guido van Rossum wrote:
The solution may well be OS specific. Solutions for Windows and OS X
have already been pointed out. If it can't be done for other Unix
versions, I think returning the input unchanged on those platform is a
fine fallback (as it is for non-existent
-On [20101004 22:03], Barry Warsaw (ba...@python.org) wrote:
We already have libpython3.2.so.1.0 which also doesn't end in .so. I suppose
we could put the build flags before the .so. part, but I think Matthias had a
problem with that (I don't remember the details).
Using major and minor numbers
-On [20101004 20:48], Barry Warsaw (ba...@python.org) wrote:
On Oct 02, 2010, at 01:40 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Besides, mingling different installations together makes uninstalling
much more difficult.
Not for a distro I think.
It does. On BSD the ports and packages are referred to a specific
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 07:21:15 pm Chris Withers wrote:
On 25/09/2010 04:25, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
1. Return the case of a filename in some canonical form which
depends on the file system?
2. Return the case of a filename as it is actually stored on disk?
How do 1 and 2 differ?
Case #1
Hello all,
There is a Wing IDE [1] project file in Misc/ which I use for working on
Python. The project file is 'python-wing.wpr'.
Wing 4 is now in beta and I have switched to using it. Wing 4 uses an
updated, backwards incompatible, project file format. I would like to
add a Wing 4
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 12:39:00PM +0100, Michael Foord wrote:
Wing 4 is now in beta and I have switched to using it. Wing 4 uses
an updated, backwards incompatible, project file format. I would
like to add a Wing 4 project file to Misc, called 'python-wing4.wpr'
to all the branches I work on
On 05/10/2010 12:51, Senthil Kumaran wrote:
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 12:39:00PM +0100, Michael Foord wrote:
Wing 4 is now in beta and I have switched to using it. Wing 4 uses
an updated, backwards incompatible, project file format. I would
like to add a Wing 4 project file to Misc, called
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
len(open('Misc/python-wing.wpr').read())
555
len(open('Misc/python-wing4.wpr').read())
888
So, size doesn't matter. :)
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On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 12:39:00 +0100
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
1. rename the old file 'python-wing3.wpr' and rename 'python-wing4.wpr'
to 'python-wing.wpr'
2. delete the wing 3 project file altogether and rename
'python-wing4.wpr' to 'python-wing.wpr'
3. stay with
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
R. David Murray writes:
Only if the email package contains a coding error would the
surrogates escape and cause problems for user code.
I don't think it is reasonable to internalize surrogates that way;
some
We just lost Neal's AMD-64 build slave due to hardware
problems. There is another AMD6-64 slave in the pool, however,
it runs in a non-standard environment, so it shows test failures
at the moment.
Would anybody be willing to run a build slave on a machine that
you have available? The main
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:19, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Would anybody be willing to run a build slave on a machine that
you have available? The main requirement is that the machine is
always connected to the internet, although not necessarily with
a fixed IP address.
I can
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PyCon 2011 will be held March 9th through the 17th, 2011 in Atlanta,
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On Oct 04, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
What is the point of shipping a different unicode representation? Is
there any practical use case? I could understand a motivated user
trying different build flags for the purpose of experimentation and
personal enlightenment, but a Linux
On Oct 05, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote:
-On [20101004 20:48], Barry Warsaw (ba...@python.org) wrote:
On Oct 02, 2010, at 01:40 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Besides, mingling different installations together makes uninstalling
much more difficult.
Not for a distro I
On Oct 05, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote:
Also, from FreeBSD's ldconfig manual page:
Filenames must conform to the lib*.so.[0-9] pattern in order to be
added to the hints file.
So ending a shared object with the build flags will cause problems on
FreeBSD and probably
I have a couple questions/comments about the use of PEP 328-style
relative imports. For example, the faq at
http://docs.python.org/py3k/faq/programming.html#what-are-the-best-practices-for-using-import-in-a-module
reads:
Never use relative package imports. If you’re writing code that’s in
the
On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 22:05:33 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org
wrote:
R. David Murray writes:
Only if the email package contains a coding error would the
surrogates escape and cause problems for user code.
I don't think
I can probably run a build slave on one of my boxes (Gentoo, Athlon 64
x2). Where are the setup docs?
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BuildBot
Regards,
Martin
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On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 17:06, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
I can probably run a build slave on one of my boxes (Gentoo, Athlon 64
x2). Where are the setup docs?
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BuildBot
Cool, can you get me username/passwd?
Cheers,
Dirkjan
I feel that, only if a roundup issue has patch, the corresponding
rietveld issue be created, it is more helpful there and avoids
needless duplication.
I have changed that now.
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On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Darren Dale dsdal...@gmail.com wrote:
from ...sys import path
Note that while that last case is legal, it is certainly
discouraged (insane was the word Guido used).
Only if by legal you mean happened to work. It stops happening to
work in Python 2.6.6. :)
On 05/10/2010 17:13, Simon Cross wrote:
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Darren Daledsdal...@gmail.com wrote:
from ...sys import path
Note that while that last case is legal, it is certainly
discouraged (insane was the word Guido used).
Only if by legal you mean happened to work. It
On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:18:18 +0100
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
Generally I'm +0 on relative imports as a whole.
As the OP pointed out, for code that may be *included* in other projects
there is no other choice. This is often useful for packages shared
between one or
On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:06:40 +0200
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
I can probably run a build slave on one of my boxes (Gentoo, Athlon 64
x2). Where are the setup docs?
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BuildBot
By the way, is the distinction between stable and unstable builders
still
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.dewrote:
I'm already running a Jython buildslave on an Intel Mac Pro which is
pretty underused - I'd be happy to run a CPython one there too, if
it'd be worthwhile.
I think Bill was specifically after Snow Leopard - what
-On [20101005 16:21], Barry Warsaw (ba...@python.org) wrote:
Do any BSD distros provide multiple different builds of Python to their users?
For all I can tell, no. Assuming you are referring to different builds of
the same version.
How do they handle having a debug build or non-debug build
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:18:18 +0100
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
Generally I'm +0 on relative imports as a whole.
As the OP pointed out, for code that may be *included* in other projects
there is
Le mardi 05 octobre 2010 à 13:28 -0400, Darren Dale a écrit :
As the OP pointed out, for code that may be *included* in other projects
there is no other choice. This is often useful for packages shared
between one or two projects that nonetheless don't warrant separate
distribution.
If they were actively discouraged, perhaps performing a relative
import would raise a warning,
This would be done if this import style was deprecated. It’s different
from it being discouraged.
or maybe distutils would raise a warning at install time,
Distutils does not inspect source files.
I followed the review link from issue5109 to arrive at
http://bugs.python.org/review/5109/patch/179/325 . On the review page
I clicked on Modules/arraymodule.c View for side-by-side diff and
got
Error fetching None/Modules/arraymodule.c?rev=83179: InvalidURLError:
Protocol '%s' is not
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Le mardi 05 octobre 2010 à 13:28 -0400, Darren Dale a écrit :
As the OP pointed out, for code that may be *included* in other projects
there is no other choice. This is often useful for packages shared
between one
On 05/10/2010 13:00, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 12:39:00 +0100
Michael Foordfuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
1. rename the old file 'python-wing3.wpr' and rename 'python-wing4.wpr'
to 'python-wing.wpr'
2. delete the wing 3 project file altogether and rename
'python-wing4.wpr'
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 14:17:47 -0400
Darren Dale dsdal...@gmail.com wrote:
Thats not the point though. Due to compatibility issues, maybe I don't
want to expose the code at the top level. Maybe the foo package is
distributed elsewhere as a top-level package, but I need to use an
older version
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Darren Dale dsdal...@gmail.com wrote:
The issue is implementing a PEP with nice support for relative
imports, and then documenting that it should never be used.
Isn't this mostly historical? Until the new relative-import syntax was
implemented there were various
I have a fairly recent MacPro on Snow Leopard, which I
keep consistently up to date and its connected all the time. It has more
capacity then I can really find use for.
If its still needed, I can set up buildbot to run on it today.
That would be nice.
Is it all
pull/poll oriented, or does
Am 05.10.10 20:15, schrieb Alexander Belopolsky:
I followed the review link from issue5109 to arrive at
http://bugs.python.org/review/5109/patch/179/325 . On the review page
I clicked on Modules/arraymodule.c View for side-by-side diff and
got
Error fetching
On 10/5/2010 2:21 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Darren Daledsdal...@gmail.com wrote:
The issue is implementing a PEP with nice support for relative
imports, and then documenting that it should never be used.
Isn't this mostly historical? Until the new
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 10/5/2010 2:21 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Darren Daledsdal...@gmail.com wrote:
The issue is implementing a PEP with nice support for relative
imports, and then documenting that it should
Am 05.10.10 19:07, schrieb Antoine Pitrou:
On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:06:40 +0200
Martin v. Löwismar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
I can probably run a build slave on one of my boxes (Gentoo, Athlon 64
x2). Where are the setup docs?
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BuildBot
By the way, is the distinction
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Darren Dale dsdal...@gmail.com wrote:
The issue is implementing a PEP with nice support for relative
imports, and then documenting that it should never be used.
Isn't this mostly
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
I guess somebody would need to do monitoring on them, and ping operators
if the buildbot is down for an extended period of time. Feel free to ping
any operator whenever you notice that a slave is down (they do get
an
To simplify the task of contacting buildbot operators, would it be
worth having a python-buildbot-owners mailing list?
Depends on the traffic. It might spam those owners who are never the
target of any of these messages, because they are well-behaving.
Do you really find it difficult to
On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 22:55:41 +0200
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
I guess somebody would need to do monitoring on them, and ping operators
if the buildbot is down for an extended period of time. Feel free to
ping any operator whenever you notice that a slave is down (they do get
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 07:09:48AM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
The remaining scenarios we have that can lead to duplication of a
module happen regardless of the import style you use*.
Cheers,
Nick.
*For the curious - those scenarios relate to ending up with the same
module present both as
Guido van Rossum wrote:
Now it is time to
withdraw the anti-recommendation.
Or at least re-word them all to make it clear that they're
talking about the *old* style of relative import in 2.x.
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On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
..
Error fetching None/Modules/arraymodule.c?rev=83179: InvalidURLError:
Protocol '%s' is not supported.
That currently happens for a lot of patches. It can't figure out what
the base branch is, and goes to the
Nick Coghlan writes:
- if you pass in bytes data and know what you are doing, then you can
access that raw bytes data and do your own decoding
At what level, though?
To take an interesting example I used to see frequently:
From: t...@tokyo.jp
(Taro Yamada in 8-bit Shift JIS)
So I
I attempted to fix the branch at http://bugs.python.org/file18220 ,
but it did not trigger rietveld update. I assume you made Tracker
Branch editable on purpose, but there should be a way rietveld side
to know when this field is changed I think.
Please start submitting issues with the
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