It seems to me that part of the point of the byte/string split (and the
lack of automatic coercion) is to make the programmer be explicit about
converting between unicode and bytes. Having these functions, which
convert between binary formats (ASCII-only representations of binary data
and
Brett Cannon writes:
I think that's inviting trouble if you can provide the seed. It leads to a
false sense of security
I thought the point of providing the seed was for reproducability of
tests and the like?
As for false sense, can't we document this and chalk up hubristic
behavior to
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:32:23 -0600
Brian Curtin br...@python.org wrote:
While some effort has gone on to get the 32-bit build to compile
without warnings (thanks for that!), 64-bit still has numerous
warnings. Before I push forward on more of the VS2010 port, I'd like
to have a clean 2008
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:58:45 +0100
victor.stinner python-check...@python.org wrote:
+/* Copy a ASCII or latin1 char* string into a Python Unicode string.
+ Return the length of the input string.
+
+ WARNING: Don't copy the terminating null character and don't check the
+ maximum
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 23:45, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Zitat von Brian Curtin br...@python.org:
While some effort has gone on to get the 32-bit build to compile
without warnings (thanks for that!), 64-bit still has numerous
warnings. Before I push forward on more of the VS2010 port, I'd
On 22/02/2012 3:32am, Brian Curtin wrote:
1. Is anyone opposed to moving up to Level 4 warnings?
At that level I think it complains about common things like the do
{...} while (0) idiom, and the unreferenced self parameter of builtin
functions.
Presumably you would have to disable those
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:04, shibturn shibt...@gmail.com wrote:
On 22/02/2012 3:32am, Brian Curtin wrote:
1. Is anyone opposed to moving up to Level 4 warnings?
At that level I think it complains about common things like the do {...}
while (0) idiom, and the unreferenced self parameter of
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 04:24:38AM +0200, Eli Bendersky wrote:
Andrew, could you elaborate on your use case? Are you using cElementTree to
do the parsing, or ElementTree (the Python implementation). Can you show a
short code sample?
I'm mostly using ElementTree because several
What is the hash of ePjNTUhitHkL?
Regards,
Martin
P.S. It took me roughly 86h to compute 150 strings colliding for the
64-bit hash function.
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On Feb 22, 2012, at 09:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Brett Cannon writes:
I think that's inviting trouble if you can provide the seed. It leads to a
false sense of security
I thought the point of providing the seed was for reproducability of
tests and the like?
As for false sense,
Two more small details to address, and then I think we're ready to start
creating release candidates.
- sys.flags.hash_randomization
In the tracker issue, I had previously stated a preference that this flag
only reflect the state of the -R command line option, not the
$PYTHONHASHSEED
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:59:33 -0500
Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
On Feb 22, 2012, at 09:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Brett Cannon writes:
I think that's inviting trouble if you can provide the seed. It leads to a
false sense of security
I thought the point of providing
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:59 AM, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
What is the hash of ePjNTUhitHkL?
Regards,
Martin
P.S. It took me roughly 86h to compute 150 strings colliding for the 64-bit
hash function.
You should have used pypy, should have been faster.
Am 22.02.2012 19:46, schrieb Maciej Fijalkowski:
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:59 AM, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
What is the hash of ePjNTUhitHkL?
Regards,
Martin
P.S. It took me roughly 86h to compute 150 strings colliding for the 64-bit
hash function.
You should have used pypy, should
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Am 22.02.2012 19:46, schrieb Maciej Fijalkowski:
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:59 AM, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
What is the hash of ePjNTUhitHkL?
Regards,
Martin
P.S. It took me roughly 86h to compute 150 strings
I just cut out around 100 warnings last night in 45 minutes, so I
don't plan on having this take several months or anything. If I get
stuck, I'll just give it up.
Would you mind posting a batch of these to the tracker? I'd like
to review them, just to be sure we have the same understanding.
On 2/22/2012 1:57 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
In the tracker, someone proposed that the option is necessary to synchronize
the seed across processes in a cluster. I'm sure people will use it for that
if they can.
Yeah, that use case sounds reasonable, too. Another example is that,
even within a
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
Two more small details to address, and then I think we're ready to start
creating release candidates.
- sys.flags.hash_randomization
In the tracker issue, I had previously stated a preference that this flag
only
Le 11/02/2012 12:00, Eli Bendersky a écrit :
Well, I think the situation is pretty good now. If one goes to
python.org and is interested in contributing, clicking on the Core
Development link is a sensible step, right?
Maybe, depending on your knowledge of jargon. How about rewording that
Hi Brett,
I think this message went unanswered, so here’s a late reply:
Le 07/02/2012 23:21, Brett Cannon a écrit :
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 15:28, Dirkjan Ochtman dirk...@ochtman.nl wrote:
[...]
Anyway, I think there was enough of a python3 port for Mercurial (from
various GSoC students) that
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 18:21, Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org wrote:
Le 11/02/2012 12:00, Eli Bendersky a écrit :
Well, I think the situation is pretty good now. If one goes to
python.org and is interested in contributing, clicking on the Core
Development link is a sensible step, right?
Antoine Pitrou writes:
How is it a false sense of security at all? It's the same as
setting a private secret for e.g. session cookies in Web applications.
As long as you don't leak the seed, it's (should be) secure.
That's true. The problem is, the precondition that you won't leak the
Brian Curtin writes:
If you want to contribute to development, I think you'll know that a
link about development is relevant.
For values of you in experienced programmers, yes. But
translators and tech writers don't consider what they do to be
development.
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 01:15, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Brian Curtin writes:
If you want to contribute to development, I think you'll know that a
link about development is relevant.
For values of you in experienced programmers, yes. But
translators and tech writers
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