Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.4: Cherry-picking into rc2 and final

2014-02-20 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 10:24:16 +0900 Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: The argument that a read-only, no cherrypicking by committers repo is nothing but a better tarball is valid, but as I say, AFAICS the expected gain is pretty marginal. The conflict here is not Larry's process,

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.4: Cherry-picking into rc2 and final

2014-02-20 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:20:12 -0800 Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote: As for a user beware clone: I worry about providing anything that looks/tastes/smells like a repo. Someone could still inadvertently push those revisions back to trunk, and then we'd have a real mess on our

[Python-Dev] Extent of post-rc churn

2014-02-20 Thread Jim Jewett
http://midwinter.com/~larry/3.4.status/merge.status.html lists enough changes that it sounds more like a bugfix release than just a few last tweaks after the rc. It would probably help if the what's-new-in-rc2 explicitly mentioned that asyncio is new and provisional with 3.4, and listed its

Re: [Python-Dev] A misredirected ticket link in hg.python.org/cpython

2014-02-20 Thread martin
Quoting Vajrasky Kok sky@speaklikeaking.com: Go to any commit link in hg.python.org/cpython, for example http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/d11ca14c9a61. You have this commit message: Issue #6815: os.path.expandvars() now supports non-ASCII Unicode environment variables names and values.

[Python-Dev] DB-API v2.1 or v3 [inspired by: python 3 niggle: None 1 raises TypeError]

2014-02-20 Thread Jim Jewett
I personally regret that sorting isn't safe, but that ship has sailed. There is practicality benefit in making None compare to everything, just as C and Java do with null pointers -- but it is too late to do by default. Adding a keyword to sorted might be nice -- but then shouldn't it also be

[Python-Dev] Second preview of 3.4.0rc2 is up

2014-02-20 Thread Larry Hastings
This time I was a lot more careful about Misc/NEWS items. The graft process likes to link in improper changes. So every time I have a graft merge collision, I now recheck what the revision I'm merging has done, and I only keep Misc/NEWS entries that are relevant. I just realized that I

Re: [Python-Dev] Second preview of 3.4.0rc2 is up

2014-02-20 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, Thanks Larry for being our release manager. How can we help you? Sorry for giving you too much work with asyncio changes :-) Python 3.4 is the largest release in term of new features since Python 3. To give you an overview of new features, 8 new modules were added between Python 2.7 and

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.4: Cherry-picking into rc2 and final

2014-02-20 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 19.02.2014 22:18, schrieb Nick Coghlan: and the Ubuntu 14.04 deadline restricts our ability to add a 3rd rc. well, I think it would be wrong to restrict that for only that reason. I did object to delay the release cycle a second time for completing a feature. If the release has to be

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.4: Cherry-picking into rc2 and final

2014-02-20 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 21 Feb 2014 08:38, Matthias Klose d...@ubuntu.com wrote: Am 19.02.2014 22:18, schrieb Nick Coghlan: and the Ubuntu 14.04 deadline restricts our ability to add a 3rd rc. well, I think it would be wrong to restrict that for only that reason. I did object to delay the release cycle a

[Python-Dev] PEP 463: Exception-catching expressions

2014-02-20 Thread Chris Angelico
PEP: 463 Title: Exception-catching expressions Version: $Revision$ Last-Modified: $Date$ Author: Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com Status: Draft Type: Standards Track Content-Type: text/x-rst Created: 15-Feb-2014 Python-Version: 3.5 Post-History: 16-Feb-2014, 21-Feb-2014 Abstract Just as

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 463: Exception-catching expressions

2014-02-20 Thread Ethan Furman
On 02/20/2014 07:15 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: PEP: 463 Title: Exception-catching expressions Version: $Revision$ Last-Modified: $Date$ Author: Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com Status: Draft Type: Standards Track Content-Type: text/x-rst Created: 15-Feb-2014 Python-Version: 3.5 Post-History:

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 463: Exception-catching expressions

2014-02-20 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote: (I'll vote on the syntax when the bikeshedding begins ;). Go get the keys to the time machine! Bikeshedding begins a week ago. ChrisA ___ Python-Dev mailing list

[Python-Dev] What is 'default' point to now?

2014-02-20 Thread Ethan Furman
Now that Larry is working on the 3.4.0 branch away from default, what is default pointing to? 3.4.1 or 3.5? -- ~Ethan~ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe:

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 463: Exception-catching expressions

2014-02-20 Thread Ethan Furman
On 02/20/2014 09:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote: (I'll vote on the syntax when the bikeshedding begins ;). Go get the keys to the time machine! Bikeshedding begins a week ago. Oh, no, not on PyDev it hasn't! Get ready for

Re: [Python-Dev] What is 'default' point to now?

2014-02-20 Thread Terry Reedy
On 2/20/2014 11:58 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: Now that Larry is working on the 3.4.0 branch away from default, what is default pointing to? 3.4.1 or 3.5? Until a 3.4 branch is split off, default is effectively 3.4.1, which means bugfixes only. -- Terry Jan Reedy

[Python-Dev] rpm needs python

2014-02-20 Thread anju Tiwari
Hi all, I have two version of python 2.4 and 2.7. By default python version is 2.4 . I want to install need to install some rpm which needs python 2.7 interpreter. how can I enable 2.7 interpreter for only those packages which are requiring python 2.7, I don't want to change my default python