frequently as hash keys - but
I would think that tuples are regularly used. Since that their hashes
are not salted does the vulnerability still exist in some form ?.
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The denial of service is more likely to occur with strings as keys,
than with integers.
See the following link for more information:
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2018-05-16 17:48 GMT-04:00 Anthony Flury via Python-Dev :
This may be known but I w
on the speed of that operation; without
consideration of how often that operation is used.
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Thanks for the link, but to be honest it will just confuse people - neither
the link
ould be searched on a different branch. The text of
entries in different versions can also be different because the same
issue can change the behavior on the master and backport the part of
changes as a bugfix.
Not all bugs apply to all, or multiple branches, so that wouldn't filter
them out rel
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branches to your fork.
I found this easier than having everything in your fork 'cuz it saves
you the hassle of keeping your copies up-to-date and having unexpected
merge conflicts in your PRs if the copies get out of date.
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Python supports transparent compression, e.g. with the 'zlib' codec.
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What's the big idea of separate buildbots anyway? I thought the
purpose of CI is to test everything _before_
it breaks the main codebase
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The best way, however, would probably be for anyone dealing with a
design change to remember to make this check.
This is even easier in Python, 'cuz the core values are officially
formulated as Python Zen, and any module has one or two governing
principles at its core, tops, that can
t; Clinic and then run "make clinic" to regenerate the generated files.
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Now to find some time to actually work on this...
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tests for mutability.
Feel free to open an issue on the IPython repo.
Btw IPython is uppercase I, and we don't want any troupe with the
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>> On 05.06.2018 3:09, Matthias Bussonnier wrote:
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>> This may even be a bug/feature of IPython,
>>
>> I see that inspect.signature(ti
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Something that may change is the way they tr
16 GET_ITER
18 CALL_FUNCTION 1
20 CALL_FUNCTION 1
22 POP_TOP
24 LOAD_CONST 4 (None)
26 RETURN_VALUE
You will see that in Python 3.6.5 the dis output for the second code object
does not
d token ID, I get a different error: just the string
"access denied", instead of a JSON dictionary. First I was also
confused between travis-ci.com and travis-ci.org ... The documentation
shows an example with .com, but Python organization uses .org.
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>>> On 05.06.2018 3:09, Matthias Bussonnier wrote:
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comprehension was a bad idea. Think of the Py3 behavior as one of
those "corrections" to things which were "got wrong" in Python 1 or 2.
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ternally rarely uses "is"
for comparisons.
See also:
- https://bugs.python.org/issue1617161
- https://bugs.python.org/issue33925
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First, tell us what problem you're solving.
You might not be aware of the context of Jereon's question. He is the
author of PEP 579 and 580, so I expect he
different side effect.
The use case for using "is" for __self__ is described by the OP of
issue1617161. I don't know use cases for using "==".
There is a related problem of hashing. Currently
bound methods are not hashable if __self__ is not hashable. This
see anything in the docs about method
equality semantics.
If that's true, it's an implementation detail, and users shouldn't rely
on it.
Consequently, anything is "desirable" that is sufficient for the Python
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d that a C-API function calls something a 'sequence'
without it having __len__.
A practical sequence check is checking for __iter__ . An iterator
doesn't necessarily have a defined length -- e.g. a stream or a generator.
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natural language equivalent to list builder notation, neither I nor any
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It's not saying "def" or "lambda", which obviously
create functions. It's a 'for' loop wrapped inside a list display.
What part of that says "hey, I'm a nested function"?
So if there's an implicit function, with implicit declaration of a
mag
table.
Brief summary of reasons for disliking ":=":
* Cryptic use of punctuation
* Too much overlap in functionality with "="
* Asymmetry between first and subsequent uses of the bound value
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here, assignments do make sense.
Effectively, it's equivalent to an additional line:
seq = range(calculate_b() as bottom, calculate_t() as top)
results = [calculate_r(bottom,r,top) for r in seq]
So, I suggest to evaluate the "feeder" expression in a local scope but
expressions tha
confusion for learners, and while that isn't the only
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A discussion long past, and a discussion yet to come.
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uot;.
You may suggest it as a supplemental PR to PEP 580. Or even a part of
it, but since the changes are controversial, better make the
refactorings into separate commits so they can be rolled back separately
if needed.
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AFAICS, your PR is not a strict improvement
What does "strict improvement" even mean? Many changes are not strict
improvements, but still useful to have.
Inada pointed me to YAG
On 26.06.2018 14:54, INADA Naoki wrote:
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> AFAICS, your PR is not a strict improvement
What does "strict improvement" e
On 26.06.2018 14:54, Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev wrote:
On 26.06.2018 14:43, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
On 2018-06-26 13:11, Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev wrote:
AFAICS, your PR is not a strict improvement
What does "strict improvement" even mean? Many changes are not strict
improve
On 26.06.2018 1:34, Greg Ewing wrote:
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"as" was suggested even before is became a keyword in `with'. ( if
(re.match(regex,line) as m) is not None: )
That's not equivalent where/given, though, since it still
has the asymmetry problem.
er (b)).
For me personally, (b) makes the PEP more consistent, so I'm not in
favor of breaking up the PEP. But we can certainly break up the
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Using this assigned result elsewhere in the same expression (akin to
regex backreferences) is not a part of the basic idea actually.
If that's true, then the proposal has mutated into something
that has *no* ov
dity that different bits of a
comprehension run in different scopes (unless we go out of our way to
use locals()); merely using assignment expressions will just work
consistently and simply, and loop variables will still be confined to
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What this means in practice is that assignments will go to different
scopes depending on *where* they are in the comprehension:
[ expr for x in iter1 for y in
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What this means in practice is that assignments will go to different
scopes depending on *where* they are i
;
As a simple example, a "macro" with access to the AST could decide to not
evaluate something, whereas normal Python rules would be to evaluate
(similar to wrapping with LISP QUOTE or LAMBDA). This would make PEP484
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> I think it has to do with the nature of the programs that people write.
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> Most of my outputs are log messages, so this proposal won't help me
> because (I presume) it does eager evaluation of
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>> Most of my outputs are log messages, so this proposal won't help me
>> because (I presume) it doe
e concrete guidelines about
>> > when to use type(obj) vs. obj.__class__? If so, what would those be?
>> > It may also be helpful to enumerate use cases for "type(obj) is not
>> > obj.__class__".
>>
>> I for one would like to see a definitive explanat
ever
way, for the same performance, to demonstrate that there's no need to
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the next release is big enough to be worthy of 5.0.
Or go from 3.9 to 2022, or XP, or Python Enterprise Python 1. :)
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atical terms are "extension" and "intention", but I get the
feeling nobody would go for that.
Ultimately, the best we have is "displays that aren't comprehensions" or
"constructions that aren't comprehensions".
Which means that something like &qu
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>>>>> On 2015-12-03 15:09, Random832 wrote:
>>>>> On 201
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raw coroutines and doesn't need real futures to get them wrapped in futures
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built on top of native, user-visible coroutines, so it has to answer a few
questions that C# dodged--like what happens when you await the same coroutine
multiple times. That's not a negative judgment on Python, it's just a natural
consequence of Python being a little more powerful here than the language it's
borrowing from. Refusing to look at the differences between Python and C# would
mean not noticing that and leaving it for some future language to solve instead
of letting future languages copy from Python (which is always the best way to
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k this is strictly an
> improvement, except perhaps in memory. Guards would also have an issue
> with nested scopes. You have a note on your website about it:
> (https://faster-cpython.readthedocs.org/fat_python.html#call-pure-builtins)
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> On Thursday, December 17, 2015 11:19 AM, Franklin? Lee
> wrote:
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>
>> ...
>> as soon as I figure out how descriptors actually work...
>
>
> I think you need to learn what LOAD_ATTR
the descriptor call, you can cache the descriptor itself but it will rarely
help, and the builtin method cache probably already takes care of 99% of the
cases where it would help, so I don't see what you're going to get here.
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Andrew Barnert w
> On Dec 18, 2015, at 04:56, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
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>>> The nested dicti
a new patch release for
Python instead of for every separate server written in Python is probably a bit
nicer. :)
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rs.
It's 11 days. Which is pretty reasonable server uptime. And probably just
outside the longest test you're ever going to run. I don't trust myself to pick
"a big number" when the numbers get this big. But I still sometimes sneak one
past myself somehow. Hence my sugg
per on top of a Future made to look more like threading.Event in its API.)
OK, I thought the OP's code looked pretty clear as written: he wants to wait
until cancelled, so he waits on something that pretty clearly won't ever finish
until he's cancelled. If that (or an Event or whatever
.c (and various other things in the
stdlib) not being (completely) argclinicified? Or is there something hairy
about this type (and various other things in the stdlib) that makes them still
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experienced in other languages and whose instinctive "taste" isn't sufficiently
Pythonic. And for that use case, keeping the rules as simple as possible is
probably helpful. Better to have one wasted line in every file than to have an
extra rule that all those JS developers ha
conventions
of scientific/numerical programming and Django programming, so presumably
coming up with your own configuration shouldn't be too hard--don't require
docstrings on __init__, or on all special methods, or only when there no
__new__, or whatever.)
e needs patch stage, which makes it perfect for the OP: in
addition to learning how to hack on builtin types, he can also learn the other
parts of the dev process. (Even if the bug is eventually rejected, as seems
likely given that it sat around for three years with no compelling use case
and t
s like there's not much support for the idea, but I think
that's at least partly because people want to see realistic use cases (that
aren't server better by the existing bitarray/bitstring/etc. modules on PyPI,
or using a NumPy array, or just using ints, etc.).
>> On F
't?
If so, that seems reasonable. (The worst case in incrementing the version
unnecessarily is that you miss an optimization that would have been safe,
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using Python in
>>> an embedded configuration.
>> Hum, did you try tracemalloc?
>>
>> https://docs.python.org/dev/library/tracemalloc.html
>> https://pytracemalloc.readthedocs.org/
>>
>>> Is there someone in the group that would like to discuss this
n whether `func` is a function, a class
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> The `getargspec` function in the `inspect` module enforces the input
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The `getargspec` already works with classes, callable objects, and some
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indent_style
I'm sure that some of these have not been advocated in this thread.
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or see your 2-line version in C, I use it quite a bit in C++ (and
related languages like D), so it doesn't look at all weird to me. But I'll
leave it up to people who only do C (and Python) and/or who are more familiar
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not sure how much benefit you'd get out of specializing list vs. generic
iterable or int vs. whatever from an AST transform, but substituting raw C
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hat are almost always UCS-2 (about 110%
slower on Python 2) than doing this kind of arithmetic (9% faster on Python 2),
or cutting tomatoes (TypeError on both versions).
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> discussion on motives for contributing to open source projects, and
> the impact that has on what we can reasonably expect from fellow
> contributors.
>
> Cheers,
> Nick.
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; - some macro benchmarks are now 10-20% faster; 2to3 (a real application) is
> 7-8% faster;
>
> - and I have some good insights on the memory footprint.
>
> ** The purpose of this email is to get a general approval from python-dev, so
> that I ca
Python scripts without ever learning how to use the terminal or
find their Python packages via Explorer/Finder.
And meanwhile, other people would be asking why their app runs slower on one
machine than another, because they didn't expect that installing python-dev on
top of python would s
On Feb 1, 2016, at 19:44, Terry Reedy wrote:
>
>> On 2/1/2016 3:39 PM, Andrew Barnert via Python-Dev wrote:
>>
>> There are already multiple duplicate questions every month on
>> StackOverflow from people asking "how do I find the source to stdlib
>> modu
ore a matter of whether you find
>> it easier to design the JIT to deal with stack or register code.
>>
>
> It seems like Yury thinks so. He didn't tell use so far.
>
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> Best,
> Sven
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