I work for Joyent (joyent.com) now, which employs a number of devs that
work on illumos (illumos.org). We also provide cloud infrastructure. Would
it help if we offered one or more instances (VMs) on which to run buildbot
slaves (and on which volunteers for bug fixing could hack)? I know a lot
of
is made for the Python 3.3 tree we can
discuss if including this in either of Python 2.7 or 3.2 would be
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dynamic languages)
- PyPy (Holger):
- plan is Benjamin will port to Python 2.7 in the summer
- only have slight deviations from CPython: idea is to merge back with
CPython so don't have deviations. Typcically 1 or 2 line changes in ~25
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I hit it with a sledge-hammer and modified my build slave to disable
error boxes for anything it runs, so we'll get the 3.0 MSI now but
with a bad chm until it gets figured out.
How do you tell Windows to do that?
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10% raw, 45%
Trent hex, 45% dec).
Aren't most spammers' scrapers going to be intelligent enough by now
(several years since they first arrived on the scene) to see through these
sorts of common obfuscations?
Perhaps, yes. No way of really knowing. shrug/
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0.9 and ch != @:
return ch
elif r 0.45:
# The [1:] is to drop leading '0': 0x63 - x63
return '#%s;' % hex(ord(ch))[1:]
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don't have a strong opinion though: I'm all for dropping win9x support
and would be happy with either a doc note that users need to ensure they
aren't using command.com, or a warning in the installer if this is detected.
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more painful, with Windows not being a true multi-user
system).
I'll try to setup a buildbot under WinXP.
Whom do I contact to get HOST:PORT and PASSWORD ?
Martin, I believe.
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it is running isn't one I use regularly, so I don't
have to worry about accidentally killing the process, frequent reboots
or anything like that.
I'll try to dig around and see what I can find for setup instructions.
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. I don't yet know if VS8 throws a spanner into
the works. For VS6 I use msdev instead of devenv.com and
PC\VC6\pcbuild.dsw instead of PCbuild\pcbuild.sln.
I haven't looked into what vsextcomp does, so apologies if this is ignorant.
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Trent Mick wrote:
It has been a while since I set it up. Tim did so at about the same time
and wrote down his steps to setup... but I can't find the reference to
those instructions right now.
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BuildbotOnWindows
If you run into problems setting it up, feel free
it is right now. That would rather suggest that build_ext
needs to be changed.
I use this patch in ActivePython to get distutils to find the correct
PCbuild dir (see attached).
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--- python/Lib/distutils/command/build_ext.py Tue Mar 13 03:19:35 2007
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
I use this patch in ActivePython to get distutils to find the correct
PCbuild dir (see attached).
Would you like to commit this to 2.6? (or perhaps 2.5 even?)
Sure, if others think it is a good thing. Will do tomorrow unless I hear
a -1 before then.
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I use this kind of thing frequently. Don't know if others consider it
bad style.
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processes associated with them. Operations performed on the job object affect
all processes associated with the job object.
...
To terminate all processes currently associated with a job object, use the
TerminateJobObject function.
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you know? As well, that doesn't seem like it would translate
well to sharing execution between separate chrome windows in a
non-browser XUL/Mozilla-based app.
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and will probably
just go for it (because I have a few hours until Anthony's deadline ;))
unless I hear some screams.
Honestly I didn't intentionally wait until the pending trunk-freeze
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* [ 1462338 ] upgrade pyexpat to expat 2.0.0
http://python.org/sf/1462338
* [ 1295808 ] expat symbols should be namespaced in pyexpat
http://python.org/sf/1295808
These are in now. I don't see any failures yet, either on the buildbots
or on the Windows/Linux/Mac OS
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* [ 1462338 ] upgrade pyexpat to expat 2.0.0
http://python.org/sf/1462338
* [ 1295808 ] expat symbols should be namespaced in pyexpat
http://python.org/sf/1295808
These are in now. I don't see any failures yet, either on the buildbots
We've pretty much gotten settled into our new diggs at work here
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sources with the PyXML sources from time to time.
I was going to be updating Modules/expat/... to Expat 2.0 relatively
soon. Must I then go via the PyXML folks to do this update then or can I
checkin to Python's SVN directly?
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VMWare, sub-domains and DHCP in the same breath.
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Sorry that I took so long to run this. It is a little unfortunate that
with the last build step being clean, I couldn't just cd into the
build directory and try to run this.
Maybe we should clean before we configure
[Tim Peters wrote]
In fact, that reminds me I added a delete all the .pyc files step to
the Windows buildbot clean.bat precisely so I didn't have to burn time
and space backing up 1600 stale files each day. So -0 on changing.
Good enough for me. Let's not bother.
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implementations *and* quickly getting into the core.
The original issue was that the various import paths to ElementTree are
a little confusing. Adding or syntax doesn't change that.
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That is the current state.
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That is the current state.
which reminds that maybe it's time to add an import helper to
the standard library, so you can do
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I've created a searchbar plugin for the firefox search bar that allows
you to search bugs. I think someone created one for the sidebar
http://starship.python.net/~skippy/mozilla/
http://projects.edgewall.com/python-sidebar/
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everything. If you all think this is a good idea I could apply it and
then also give a go an upgrading out expat version (I haven't looked at
whether that would be very difficult).
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I'm testing my patch to the trunk right now to make sure it passes
everything. If you all think this is a good idea I could apply it and
then also give a go an upgrading out expat version (I haven't looked at
whether that would be very difficult).
give a go at upgrading
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I'm testing my patch to the trunk right now to make sure it passes
everything. If you all think this is a good idea I could apply it and
then also give a go an upgrading out expat version (I haven't looked at
whether that would be very difficult
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[Martin v. Loewis wrote]
Tim Peters wrote:
I'd say instead that they should never be skipped: the real
difference on your box is the expected _outcome_ in the third
category.
That is indeed more reasonable than what I proposed.
I'll do this tonight
sys.executable to run a Python script' makes no
sense for
a py2exe'd application.
Ditto on both counts for PyXPCOM (Python embedded in Mozilla).
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In addition, I will swap sre and re. This will make help(re) work properly.
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I'd say instead that they should never be skipped: the real
difference on your box is the expected _outcome_ in the third
category.
That is indeed more reasonable than what I proposed.
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running as a Windows service
Mark Hammond has a patch to the buildbot project toward this end:
http://sf.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1401121group_id=73177atid=537003
Cool. I'll look into that.
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Yup. Looks like my build worked. Another TODO now though:
- Figure out why usage of:
winsound.PlaySound(something, winsound.SND_ALIAS)
fails on my Win2k box. This is why the test suite fails on that box.
Doesn't that always fail
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I do have a sound card in that box, however, the Sounds and Multimedia
Properties dialog (off Control Panel) says that there are No Playback
Devices for Sound Playback. So I guess that is it. Maybe the sound card
in that box is not hooked up
with the beep
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C:\Perl but to C:\Perl58. People who install to an alternate drive might
also get surprised.
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http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pywin32/pywin32/setup.py?view=markup
That is the best code I know for doing that.
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...anyway this is getting seriously OT for python-dev. :)
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[Nick Coghlan wrote]
What if we used subpath as the name instead of joinpath?
append?
not-a-big-fan-of-joinpath-either-ly yours,
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And BTW, what does splitunc do?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_%28computing%29#Universal_Naming_Convention
It really should have a more descriptive name.
No more that should urllib or splitext.
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I haven't read this thread, so apologies is this doesn't really apply to
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could do: f.addStep(Catalog, command=Catalog.command)
which would simplify a bunch of code in process/factory.py since it is
called this way 10 times. Didn't look elsewhere.
Add a buildbot patch/bug?
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=addgroup_id=73177atid=537003
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the complexity of
displaying status for lots of Builders. (with the current release
these multiple Waterfalls must all listen on different TCP ports,
unfortunately, but you can always hide this with the
reverse-proxy's URL mapping).
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builder could be setup to just build, say, once per day or only a couple
of times per day where as the incremental builder would trigger for
every SVN checkin.
Nicing could probably also be done.
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Does that make sense? We would just need /f's script in SVN.
in python/Tools/something or sandbox/something ?
python/Doc/tools/something?
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...and whoever the Tcl/Tk master is these days (still Ousterhout?)...
That's Jeff Hobbs. He sits behind me. I'll see if I can pester him to
give some Tcl/Tk and _tkinter thoughts.
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fairly straightforward. Neil and Martin would probably know better. I
don't have access to the buildbot setup.
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what they are doing.
To wipe out the build occassionally you could (presumably) add a
starting step to the Python 'builder' (in the build master.cfg) to
rm -rf $builddir
every, say, Sunday night.
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# 'factory': python_factory,
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I think I'm part of the way there with the following. I've subclassed
the SVN source build step to add support for new source mode:
update_and_clobber_occassionally. Basically it (hackily) changes the
source type btwn update, which we usually
projects and trunks... all with the same buildbot master server.
python.org/dev/buildbot/python/...
python.org/dev/buildbot/python-release24-maint/...
python.org/dev/buildbot/distutils/...
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Or for separate logic projects being built with the same builtbot
s/logic/logical/
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Is this intentional? If not, could someone point me to where the svn
trigger scripts are maintained so I could poke around for a fix? (Or
just fix it themselves. :)
It was not my intention. They are in
dinsdale.python.org:/data/repos/projects
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I couldn't let Trent have all the fun.
http://docs.python.org/dev/
Yah, I'd had a great time. wink Back to Xmas drinking.
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latex2html that disallowed having any hyphens in the path to where the
docs were being built. So your hyphen in Python-2.5 might be
confounding latex2html there.
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[Gregory P. Smith wrote]
(i don't know what version python uses today maybe this is a non issue?)
$ svn cat http://svn.python.org/projects/python/trunk/PCbuild/zlib.vcproj |
grep zlib-
...
zlib 1.2.3
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- could a cronjob that does this be set up on some python.org machine
(or on some volunteer's machine)
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rootone //root
C:\trentm\src\python\python\PCbuildsvn st
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M pcbuild.sln
Shall I checkin the build changes?
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[Martin v. Loewis wrote]
Trent Mick wrote:
C:\trentm\src\python\python\PCbuildsvn st
A _elementtree.vcproj
M pcbuild.sln
Shall I checkin the build changes?
Go ahead. A change to Tools/msi/msi.py is also in order.
Okay, done. I naively added _elementtree
-debug.zip
And those should be binary compatible with the equivalent python.org
installs as well. Note that the simple install.py script in those
packages bails if the Python installation isn't ActivePython, but I
could easily remove that if you think that would be useful for your
users.
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to
build_ssl.py to do the build work. I didn't see what the full build
requirements were earlier in this thread though, so I may be missing
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Yes, please do.
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really_really_long_arg4,) # nicer
log.debug(%s %s %s %s ... % (arg1, arg2, arg3,
really_really_long_arg4)) # icky
but the performance reason doesn't apply to the printf()/write()
discussion here.
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pending or submitted chagelist. See 'px help genpatch'.
Available here:
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Pure python. Works on Python =2.2. Windows, Linux, Mac OS X, Unix.
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useful things, or lack of it was the main beef. Mostly Anthony was
echoing comments from others' experiences with trying to work with the
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Just a data point (not really following this thread): The PyWin32
sources raise WindowsError twice (one of them is
win32\Demos\winprocess.py which is probably where subprocess got it
from) an catches it in 11 places.
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think Subversion wins over Perforce. That is presuming, of course, that
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...
There are other little things, like not being able to trim the check-in
filelist when editing the check-in message. For example, say you have
10 files checked out scattered around the Python source tree and you
want to check 9 of those
Who made me the Perforce-bitch? Here I am screaming Subversion!
Subversion! and y'all think I just using that as cover for a p4 lover
affair. :)
[Donovan Baarda wrote]
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 15:49, Trent Mick wrote:
One feature I like in Perforce (which Subversion doesn't have
and
against the Python-2.4.1.tgz source tarball. Shall I check this into the
HEAD and release24-maint?
Trent
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Index: PCbuild/readme.txt
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RCS file: /cvsroot/python/python/dist/src/PCbuild/readme.txt
[Trent Mick]
Here is a patch to do this (attached) that works on the trunk and
against the Python-2.4.1.tgz source tarball. Shall I check this into the
HEAD and release24-maint?
[Tim Peters wrote]
Definitely on HEAD, almost certainly on 24 maint. The slight
uncertainty wrt the latter
[Anthony Baxter wrote]
On Tuesday 26 July 2005 11:39, Trent Mick wrote:
Here is a patch to do this (attached) that works on the trunk and
against the Python-2.4.1.tgz source tarball. Shall I check this into the
HEAD and release24-maint?
Yes.
Okay, done.
Can I say that I've had
() \
or path.Path() == os.getcwdu()
Dunno if that causes other weirdnesses with the API, though.
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to the trunk, right?
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[Trent Mick wrote]
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-checkins/2005-March/045185.html
Note that I also could not build PyWin32 against 2.4.1c1 and I suspect
this was the same problem. (Still checking to see if this change fixes
the PyWin32 build for me.
...
It doesn't. Investigating
[Trent Mick wrote]
[Trent Mick wrote]
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-checkins/2005-March/045185.html
Note that I also could not build PyWin32 against 2.4.1c1 and I suspect
this was the same problem. (Still checking to see if this change fixes
the PyWin32 build for me
broken for other projects for me -- e.g.
'pywin32'.
Cheers,
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Howdy,
The copyright date was updated to 2005 in Python/getcopyright.c. Should
the same be done in PC/python_nt.rc? Or perhaps, is there any reason
python_nt.rc should NOT be updated?
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