Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-13 Thread Walter Dörwald
C. Titus Brown wrote: [...] I have had a hard time getting a good sense of what core code is well tested and what is not well tested, across various platforms. While Walter's C/Python integrated code coverage site is nice, it would be even nicer to have a way to generate all that

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread Martin v. Löwis
2x keyring package -- see http://tarekziade.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/pycon-hallway-session-1-a-keyring-library-for-python/. The poorer one of these will probably be axed unless Tarek gives it strong support. I don't think these are good core projects. Even if the students come up with a

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread Mario
He says vague things about patches too, but I'm not sure what. If he wanted to make that into a 'patchbot' that just applied every patch in isolation and ran 'make make test' and posted results in the tracker I'd be a happy camper. Jack, how about you write that idea down on the wiki

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread C. Titus Brown
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:21:18PM +0200, Mario wrote: - He says vague things about patches too, but I'm not sure what. If he - wanted to make that into a 'patchbot' that just applied every patch in - isolation and ran 'make make test' and posted results in the - tracker I'd be a happy

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread C. Titus Brown
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 08:13:35AM +0200, Martin v. L?wis wrote: - 2x keyring package -- see - http://tarekziade.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/pycon-hallway-session-1-a-keyring-library-for-python/. - The poorer one of these will probably be axed unless Tarek gives it - strong support. - - I don't

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread Tarek Ziadé
- I'm also skeptical that this is a good SoC project in the first place. What is a good SoC project from your point of view ? - Coming up with a wrapper for, say, Apple Keychain, could be a good - project. Coming up with a unifying API for all keychains is out of - scope, IMO; various past

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Ok what about this then: I am changing the scope a little bit, and I think the students will be fine with this change since it's the same work. The project will consist of creating a plugin system into Distutils to be able to store and retrieve the username/password used by some commands, without

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I'm using core projects as a shorthand for projects that directly address the core development environment, the stdlib, and priorities of committers on python-dev. Tarek is a committer, and it sounded like you, Jim, and Georg were all interested in this project, too -- that pushes it well

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Tarek Ziadé wrote: - I'm also skeptical that this is a good SoC project in the first place. What is a good SoC project from your point of view ? As a core project - tricky. Implement some long-standing complex feature request, or fix a pile of outstanding bug reports for a module (like the

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread Martin v. Löwis
The student will also provide some plugins for a maximum number of existing keyring systems. Some of these plugins might be included in Distutils, and some of them in a third-party package. This is slightly better, but see my previous message (that is feature creep in distutils, and likely,

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-11 Thread Ron DuPlain
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 4:38 PM, C. Titus Brown c...@msu.edu wrote: Unquestionably core by my criteria above: 3to2 tool -- 'nuff said. I worked on the 3to2 tool during the sprint last week at PyCon. I can chip in for GSoC in the event it does get picked up. -Ron PS - I'm out of town next

[Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-10 Thread C. Titus Brown
Hi all, this year we have 10-12 GSoC applications that I've put in the relevant to core Python development category. These projects, if mentors etc are found, are *guaranteed* a slot under the PSF GSoC umbrella. As backup GSoC admin and general busybody, I've taken on the work of coordinating

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-10 Thread Guilherme Polo
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 5:38 PM, C. Titus Brown c...@msu.edu wrote: Hi all, this year we have 10-12 GSoC applications that I've put in the relevant to core Python development category.  These projects, if mentors etc are found, are *guaranteed* a slot under the PSF GSoC umbrella.  As backup

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-10 Thread C. Titus Brown
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 05:53:23PM -0300, Guilherme Polo wrote: - - IDLE/Tkinter patch integration improvement -- deal with ~120 tracker - ? ? ? ?issues relating to IDLE and Tkinter. - - - Is it important, for the discussion, to mention that it also involves - testing this area (idle and

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-10 Thread Tennessee Leeuwenburg
Well, I think Numpy is of huge importance to a major Python user segment, the scientific community. I don't know if that makes it 'core', but I strongly agree that it's important. Better testing is always useful, and more core, but IMO less important. -T On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 6:38 AM, C. Titus

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-10 Thread Guilherme Polo
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:02 PM, C. Titus Brown c...@msu.edu wrote: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 05:53:23PM -0300, Guilherme Polo wrote: - - IDLE/Tkinter patch integration improvement -- deal with ~120 tracker - ? ? ? ?issues relating to IDLE and Tkinter. - - - Is it important, for the

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-10 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2009/4/10 C. Titus Brown c...@msu.edu: 2x improve testing tools for py3k -- variously focus on improving test        coverage and testing wrappers.        One proposes to provide a nice wrapper to make nose and py.test        capable of running the regrtests, which (with no change to        

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Summer of Code/core Python projects - RFC

2009-04-10 Thread Jack diederich
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 4:38 PM, C. Titus Brown c...@msu.edu wrote: [megasnip] roundup VCS integration / build tools to support core development --        a single student proposed both of these and has received some        support.  See http://slexy.org/view/s2pFgWxufI for details. From the