Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Oleg Broytman writes: Back on the topic, I don't think a drop-down list of all modules is workable even in browsers that display them as combo boxes. How many modules do we have in std lib? About 100? Maybe more. What if the bug affects several modules? What if the patch modifies

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-21 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: ..      In this particular case I'd rather tend to agree - an editable   single-line box to enter space-*and*-comma-separated modules list   would be the best interface. For active developers, yes.  But this is

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Alexander Belopolsky writes: On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote: ..      In this particular case I'd rather tend to agree - an editable   single-line box to enter space-*and*-comma-separated modules list   would be the best interface.

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-20 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 20.07.2010 06:37, schrieb Stephen J. Turnbull: Mark Lawrence writes: Is this the same login as for the issue tracker or is a new one needed? It's different. Both trackers are supposed to support OpenID logins, I believe. (However, there are somewhat frequent reports of difficulties

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-20 Thread Éric Araujo
Le 18/07/2010 23:17, Alexander Belopolsky a écrit : On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Maybe going off on a tangent, but I find it frustrating because you (plural) can't find a given module on the issue tracker. Say I'm looking for issues relating

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-20 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:45:42 +0200, mer...@netwok.org wrote: On 18/07/2010 23:17, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Maybe going off on a tangent, but I find it frustrating because you (plural) can't find a given module

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-20 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:16 PM, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote: .. During the most recent discussion I can remember, I thought I remembered Stephen Trumble saying that they'd tried that in xemacs and it really hadn't worked very well.  Since he now says he thinks it's a good idea

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-20 Thread Oleg Broytman
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 02:53:53PM -0400, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: Have you ever cursed these extra clever address forms that make you select a state from a drop-down list of 50 if not a country from the list of 100+? Well, I have never, because in any of these drop-down lists I can

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-20 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Oleg Broytman p...@phd.pp.ru wrote: ..   Well, I have never, because in any of these drop-down lists I can press a few first letters of the name and the cursor jumps to the country. I often select countries in such lists in web browsers. Really? What

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-20 Thread Oleg Broytman
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 03:13:41PM -0400, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Oleg Broytman p...@phd.pp.ru wrote: ..   Well, I have never, because in any of these drop-down lists I can press a few first letters of the name and the cursor jumps to the country. I

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-20 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Oleg Broytman p...@phd.pp.ru wrote: .. Really?  What smartphone are you using?  :-)   Are you developing an interface for smartphones? Wouldn't it hurt usability for desktops/notebooks? You missed the smiley in my response. But seriously, I do find the

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-20 Thread Oleg Broytman
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 04:27:45PM -0400, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Oleg Broytman p...@phd.pp.ru wrote: .. Really?  What smartphone are you using?  :-)   Are you developing an interface for smartphones? Wouldn't it hurt usability for desktops/notebooks?

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-20 Thread Terry Reedy
In any case, a module list should be separate from components. On 7/20/2010 4:43 PM, Oleg Broytman wrote: In this particular case I'd rather tend to agree - an editable single-line box to enter space-*and*-comma-separated modules list would be the best interface. An interesting idea. In

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-20 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Alexander Belopolsky alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote: The only problem I can see with this feature is how to design a usable UI.  Have you ever cursed these extra clever address forms that make you select a state from a drop-down list of 50 if not a country

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-20 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 20.07.2010 23:09, schrieb Terry Reedy: In any case, a module list should be separate from components. On 7/20/2010 4:43 PM, Oleg Broytman wrote: In this particular case I'd rather tend to agree - an editable single-line box to enter space-*and*-comma-separated modules list would be

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-20 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
R. David Murray writes: During the most recent discussion I can remember, I thought I remembered Stephen Trumble saying that they'd tried that in xemacs and it really hadn't worked very well. Since he now says he thinks it's a good idea (or more likely I misremembered what he said the

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-19 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 18/07/2010 23:38, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Martin v. Löwismar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Maybe going off on a tangent, but I find it frustrating because you (plural) can't find a given module on the issue tracker. Say I'm looking for issues relating to

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-19 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: .. Is this the same login as for the issue tracker or is a new one needed? AFAIK, it is separate. I also suspect that subsections for Extension Modules would be extremely useful for our C developers, thoughts

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-19 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 July 2010 20:57, Glyph Lefkowitz gl...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: On Jul 18, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: We already have posponed and remind resolutions, but these are exclusive of accepted.   I

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-19 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Lawrence writes: Is this the same login as for the issue tracker or is a new one needed? It's different. Both trackers are supposed to support OpenID logins, I believe. (However, there are somewhat frequent reports of difficulties with it; I don't know if the system is fully debugged.

[Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-18 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 17/07/2010 22:57, Terry Reedy wrote: .. I am certainly reluctant to recruit others to help, as I did for #9222, if there will be no action indefinitely. This is standard Python behavour.  The worst case I've

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-18 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
On Jul 18, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: We already have posponed and remind resolutions, but these are exclusive of accepted. I think there should be a clear way to mark the issue accepted and would be applied if X.Y was out already. Chances are one of the resolution

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-18 Thread Paul Moore
On 18 July 2010 20:57, Glyph Lefkowitz gl...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: On Jul 18, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: We already have posponed and remind resolutions, but these are exclusive of accepted.   I think there should be a clear way to mark the issue accepted and would be

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-18 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 18/07/2010 18:46, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Mark Lawrencebreamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 17/07/2010 22:57, Terry Reedy wrote: .. I am certainly reluctant to recruit others to help, as I did for #9222, if there will be no action indefinitely. This is

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-18 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 July 2010 20:57, Glyph Lefkowitz gl...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: .. This is what branches are for. When the X.Y release cycle starts, there should be a branch for X.Y.  Any would be applied patches can simply be

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-18 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
[Removing idle-dev from CC] On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: .. Maybe going off on a tangent, but I find it frustrating because you (plural) can't find a given module on the issue tracker.  Say I'm looking for issues relating to smtplib, all I can

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-18 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Maybe going off on a tangent, but I find it frustrating because you (plural) can't find a given module on the issue tracker. Say I'm looking for issues relating to smtplib, all I can do is look in the title of the issue. Have I missed something, or is there a need to have subsections so that if

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-18 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Maybe going off on a tangent, but I find it frustrating because you (plural) can't find a given module on the issue tracker. Say I'm looking for issues relating to smtplib, all I can do is look in the title of the

Re: [Python-Dev] What to do with languishing patches?

2010-07-18 Thread Terry Reedy
On 7/18/2010 5:05 PM, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Paul Moorep.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 July 2010 20:57, Glyph Lefkowitzgl...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: .. This is what branches are for. When the X.Y release cycle starts, there should be a branch for X.Y.