Re: [Python-Dev] outdated info on download pages for older versions

2012-05-03 Thread Michael Foord

On 2 May 2012, at 18:06, Ezio Melotti wrote:

> On 02/05/2012 19.33, Michael Foord wrote:
>> On 2 May 2012, at 16:55, Terry Reedy wrote:
>>> I would send the above to webmas...@python.org (should be at the bottom of 
>>> pages). We develop CPython but do not directly manage the website.
>> Not true. The download pages are administered by the release managers not 
>> the web team.
>> 
>> For the record, the best way of contacting the web team (such as it is) is 
>> the pydotorg-www mailing list. There are precious few people (even fewer 
>> than there are in the web team...) responding to emails on the webmaster 
>> alias. :-)
>> 
>> Michael
> 
> I'm pretty sure that several core devs are able (and possibly willing) to 
> help out with the website, but AFAIU they have to request commit right for a 
> separate repo where the website lives or report issues via mail.  Is there 
> any practical reason why the repo for the website is not on hg with all the 
> other repos (cpython/devguide/peps/etc.) except that no one ported it yet?


Anyone willing to assist with website maintenance (even occasional typo fixes) 
should email their ssh keys to the pydot...@python.org mailing list (no need to 
join) and send an intro to the pydotorg-www mailing list (preferable to join).

Michael

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Re: [Python-Dev] outdated info on download pages for older versions

2012-05-02 Thread Martin v. Löwis

Are the download pages for older Python versions supposed to be kept up
to date at all?


I occasionally update them when I see issues with them. Your specific 
issue, I missed so far.


If you would like to make this kind of update, please let me know.

Regards,
Martin

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Re: [Python-Dev] outdated info on download pages for older versions

2012-05-02 Thread Martin v. Löwis

On 02.05.2012 17:55, Terry Reedy wrote:

On 5/2/2012 10:16 AM, Carl Meyer wrote:

Hi all,

Are the download pages for older Python versions supposed to be kept up
to date at all? I just noticed that the 2.4.6 download page
(http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.4.6/) says things like
"Python 2.4 is now in security-fix-only mode" (whereas in fact it no
longer gets even security fixes), and "Python 2.6 is the latest release
of Python."

While checking to see if there was a SIG that would be more appropriate
for this question, I also noticed that if one clicks on Community |
Mailing Lists in the left sidebar of python.org, there's a "Special
Interest Groups" link under "Mailing Lists" which is a 404 (not to
mention redundant, as there's also one parallel to "Mailing Lists" that
works).

(Please do let me know if there is a more appropriate forum for website
issues/questions).


I would send the above to webmas...@python.org (should be at the bottom
of pages).


Please don't (unless you want your message ignored).

Regards,
Martin

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Re: [Python-Dev] outdated info on download pages for older versions

2012-05-02 Thread Brian Curtin
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Ezio Melotti  wrote:
> On 02/05/2012 19.33, Michael Foord wrote:
>>
>> On 2 May 2012, at 16:55, Terry Reedy wrote:
>>>
>>> I would send the above to webmas...@python.org (should be at the bottom
>>> of pages). We develop CPython but do not directly manage the website.
>>
>> Not true. The download pages are administered by the release managers not
>> the web team.
>>
>> For the record, the best way of contacting the web team (such as it is) is
>> the pydotorg-www mailing list. There are precious few people (even fewer
>> than there are in the web team...) responding to emails on the webmaster
>> alias. :-)
>>
>> Michael
>
>
> I'm pretty sure that several core devs are able (and possibly willing) to
> help out with the website, but AFAIU they have to request commit right for a
> separate repo where the website lives or report issues via mail.  Is there
> any practical reason why the repo for the website is not on hg with all the
> other repos (cpython/devguide/peps/etc.) except that no one ported it yet?

I don't know if there's a practical reason, but given that the website
will eventually be changing anyway, I think it's a waste of time to
port it to hg. You'd also have to port the build chain to hg, since it
rebuilds the site when svn is updated.

Then by the time you're done, there's zero net gain and it all gets thrown away.
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Re: [Python-Dev] outdated info on download pages for older versions

2012-05-02 Thread Ezio Melotti

On 02/05/2012 19.33, Michael Foord wrote:

On 2 May 2012, at 16:55, Terry Reedy wrote:

I would send the above to webmas...@python.org (should be at the bottom of 
pages). We develop CPython but do not directly manage the website.

Not true. The download pages are administered by the release managers not the 
web team.

For the record, the best way of contacting the web team (such as it is) is the 
pydotorg-www mailing list. There are precious few people (even fewer than there 
are in the web team...) responding to emails on the webmaster alias. :-)

Michael


I'm pretty sure that several core devs are able (and possibly willing) 
to help out with the website, but AFAIU they have to request commit 
right for a separate repo where the website lives or report issues via 
mail.  Is there any practical reason why the repo for the website is not 
on hg with all the other repos (cpython/devguide/peps/etc.) except that 
no one ported it yet?


Best Regards,
Ezio Melotti
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Re: [Python-Dev] outdated info on download pages for older versions

2012-05-02 Thread Michael Foord

On 2 May 2012, at 16:55, Terry Reedy wrote:

> On 5/2/2012 10:16 AM, Carl Meyer wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Are the download pages for older Python versions supposed to be kept up
>> to date at all? I just noticed that the 2.4.6 download page
>> (http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.4.6/) says things like
>> "Python 2.4 is now in security-fix-only mode" (whereas in fact it no
>> longer gets even security fixes), and "Python 2.6 is the latest release
>> of Python."
>> 
>> While checking to see if there was a SIG that would be more appropriate
>> for this question, I also noticed that if one clicks on Community |
>> Mailing Lists in the left sidebar of python.org, there's a "Special
>> Interest Groups" link under "Mailing Lists" which is a 404 (not to
>> mention redundant, as there's also one parallel to "Mailing Lists" that
>> works).
>> 
>> (Please do let me know if there is a more appropriate forum for website
>> issues/questions).
> 
> I would send the above to webmas...@python.org (should be at the bottom of 
> pages). We develop CPython but do not directly manage the website.


Not true. The download pages are administered by the release managers not the 
web team. 

For the record, the best way of contacting the web team (such as it is) is the 
pydotorg-www mailing list. There are precious few people (even fewer than there 
are in the web team...) responding to emails on the webmaster alias. :-)

Michael

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Re: [Python-Dev] outdated info on download pages for older versions

2012-05-02 Thread Terry Reedy

On 5/2/2012 10:16 AM, Carl Meyer wrote:

Hi all,

Are the download pages for older Python versions supposed to be kept up
to date at all? I just noticed that the 2.4.6 download page
(http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.4.6/) says things like
"Python 2.4 is now in security-fix-only mode" (whereas in fact it no
longer gets even security fixes), and "Python 2.6 is the latest release
of Python."

While checking to see if there was a SIG that would be more appropriate
for this question, I also noticed that if one clicks on Community |
Mailing Lists in the left sidebar of python.org, there's a "Special
Interest Groups" link under "Mailing Lists" which is a 404 (not to
mention redundant, as there's also one parallel to "Mailing Lists" that
works).

(Please do let me know if there is a more appropriate forum for website
issues/questions).


I would send the above to webmas...@python.org (should be at the bottom 
of pages). We develop CPython but do not directly manage the website.


--
Terry Jan Reedy

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[Python-Dev] outdated info on download pages for older versions

2012-05-02 Thread Carl Meyer

Hi all,

Are the download pages for older Python versions supposed to be kept up 
to date at all? I just noticed that the 2.4.6 download page 
(http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.4.6/) says things like 
"Python 2.4 is now in security-fix-only mode" (whereas in fact it no 
longer gets even security fixes), and "Python 2.6 is the latest release 
of Python."


While checking to see if there was a SIG that would be more appropriate 
for this question, I also noticed that if one clicks on Community | 
Mailing Lists in the left sidebar of python.org, there's a "Special 
Interest Groups" link under "Mailing Lists" which is a 404 (not to 
mention redundant, as there's also one parallel to "Mailing Lists" that 
works).


(Please do let me know if there is a more appropriate forum for website 
issues/questions).


Carl
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