[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 659: Specializing Adaptive Interpreter

2021-05-26 Thread Mark Shannon
Hi Brett, On 26/05/2021 3:56 am, Brett Cannon wrote: On Tue., May 25, 2021, 12:58 Guido van Rossum, > wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 12:34 PM Brett Cannon mailto:br...@python.org>> wrote: I personally think it should be a Standards Track PEP. This PEP

[Python-Dev] IRC #python-dev channel is now on Libera Chat (bye bye Freenode)

2021-05-26 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, The #python-dev IRC channel moves from Freenode to Libera Chat: https://libera.chat/ I'm connected as vstinner, see you there ;-) Join the channel if you would like to talk about the development of Python itself (the VM, bytecode, stdlib, etc.)! Moreover, bots notifications (GitHub,

[Python-Dev] Re: IRC #python-dev channel is now on Libera Chat (bye bye Freenode)

2021-05-26 Thread Thomas Wouters
On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 6:01 PM Guido van Rossum wrote: > What a mess! I hope the PSF is healthy enough that that will never happen > to us. > Well, yes, so do I! :) In reality, though, I would say that the PSF has enough safe-guards, checks and balances, community support and legal clout to

[Python-Dev] Re: IMPORTANT: Python 3.10b2 release blockers

2021-05-26 Thread Pablo Galindo Salgado
Hi, Friendly reminder that the Python3.10 beta 2 is still blocked on: https://bugs.python.org/issue42972 Thanks for your help, Regards from stormy London, Pablo Galindo Salgado On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 23:54, Pablo Galindo Salgado wrote: > Small correction: > >

[Python-Dev] Re: IRC #python-dev channel is now on Libera Chat (bye bye Freenode)

2021-05-26 Thread Ammar Askar
This section on wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenode#Ownership_change_and_conflict and this article have a good summary: https://hackaday.com/2021/05/20/freenode-debacle-prompts-staff-exodus-new-network/ Essentially what happened is that freenode was bought out a while ago by a

[Python-Dev] Re: IRC #python-dev channel is now on Libera Chat (bye bye Freenode)

2021-05-26 Thread Guido van Rossum
Could someone provide more background on this event? Are there wars going on between different IRC providers?!? On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 6:43 AM Victor Stinner wrote: > By the way, #python also moved to Libera Chat: > https://www.pound-python.org/ > > The PSF (Group Contact) owns #python*,

[Python-Dev] Re: IRC #python-dev channel is now on Libera Chat (bye bye Freenode)

2021-05-26 Thread Guido van Rossum
What a mess! I hope the PSF is healthy enough that that will never happen to us. On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 8:55 AM Ammar Askar wrote: > This section on wikipedia > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenode#Ownership_change_and_conflict > and this article have a good summary: > >

[Python-Dev] Re: IRC #python-dev channel is now on Libera Chat (bye bye Freenode)

2021-05-26 Thread Victor Stinner
By the way, #python also moved to Libera Chat: https://www.pound-python.org/ The PSF (Group Contact) owns #python*, #pypa* and #psf* channels on Libera. I updated the IRC informations in the Python devguide. I'm still migrating #python-dev-notifs bots to Libera. Victor On Wed, May 26, 2021

[Python-Dev] Re: IRC #python-dev channel is now on Libera Chat (bye bye Freenode)

2021-05-26 Thread Fred Drake
I found this article about what's up with FreeNode: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/ -Fred On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 11:48 AM Guido van Rossum wrote: > Could someone provide more background on this event? Are there wars

[Python-Dev] Re: IRC #python-dev channel is now on Libera Chat (bye bye Freenode)

2021-05-26 Thread Thomas Wouters
On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 5:49 PM Guido van Rossum wrote: > Could someone provide more background on this event? Are there wars going > on between different IRC providers?!? > Not really a war between them, more like a split community. A change of administration on Freenode (which led to

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 659: Specializing Adaptive Interpreter

2021-05-26 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 4:23 AM Mark Shannon wrote: > Hi Brett, > > On 26/05/2021 3:56 am, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > > > On Tue., May 25, 2021, 12:58 Guido van Rossum, > > wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 12:34 PM Brett Cannon >

[Python-Dev] Re: IRC #python-dev channel is now on Libera Chat (bye bye Freenode)

2021-05-26 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Thu, 27 May 2021 at 00:52, Dan Stromberg wrote: > > > On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 4:25 PM Greg Ewing > wrote: >> >> > On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 8:55 AM Ammar Askar > > > wrote: >> > >> > most >> > recently if your topic mentioned libera.chat, the new freenode

[Python-Dev] Re: IRC #python-dev channel is now on Libera Chat (bye bye Freenode)

2021-05-26 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 4:25 PM Greg Ewing wrote: > > On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 8:55 AM Ammar Askar > > wrote: > > > > most > > recently if your topic mentioned libera.chat, the new freenode owners > > will take it over, ban anyone from chatting in it and

[Python-Dev] Re: IRC #python-dev channel is now on Libera Chat (bye bye Freenode)

2021-05-26 Thread Greg Ewing
On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 8:55 AM Ammar Askar > wrote: most recently if your topic mentioned libera.chat, the new freenode owners will take it over, ban anyone from chatting in it and change the topic My goodness. Let's hope the new owners eventually