Ned Deily wrote:
In article 49e3d34e.8040...@trueblade.com,
Eric Smith e...@trueblade.com wrote:
Before then, if anyone could build and test the py3k-short-float-repr
branch on any of the following machines, that would be great:
[...]
Something bigendian, like a G4 Mac
I'll crank up some
In article nad-d10aa9.19075613042...@news.gmane.org,
Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote:
In article 49e3d34e.8040...@trueblade.com,
Eric Smith e...@trueblade.com wrote:
Before then, if anyone could build and test the py3k-short-float-repr
branch on any of the following machines, that would be
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote:
Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote:
Eric Smith e...@trueblade.com wrote:
Before then, if anyone could build and test the py3k-short-float-repr
branch on any of the following machines, that would be great:
[...]
Something
Ned Deily wrote:
I'll crank up some OS X installer builds and run them on G3 and G4 Macs
vs 32-/64- Intel. Any tests of interest beyond the default regttest.py?
FIrst attempt was a fat (32-bit i386 and ppc) build on 10.5 targeted for
10.3 and above; this is the similar to recent python.org
By the way, a simple native build on OS X 10.4/PPC passed all tests (that
we're already failing before).
Mark
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On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com wrote:
By the way, a simple native build on OS X 10.4/PPC passed all tests (that
we're already failing before).
s/we're/weren't
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Mark Dickinson dickinsm at gmail.com writes:
But I'd expect that there are already similar issues
with a 'fat' build of py3k on OS X. After all, there's
already a 'WORDS_BIGENDIAN' in pyconfig.h.in. I
don't know where this is used.
It's used e.g. in unicode encoding/decoding, and in the IO
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote:
FIrst attempt was a fat (32-bit i386 and ppc) build on 10.5 targeted for
10.3 and above; this is the similar to recent python.org OSX installers.
What's the proper way to create such a build? I've been trying:
./configure
Okay, I think I might have fixed up the float endianness detection for
universal builds on OS X. Ned, any chance you could give this
another try with an updated version of the py3k-short-float-repr branch?
One thing I don't understand:
Is it true that to produce a working universal/fat build of
Mark Dickinson dickinsm at gmail.com writes:
Okay, I think I might have fixed up the float endianness detection for
universal builds on OS X. Ned, any chance you could give this
another try with an updated version of the py3k-short-float-repr branch?
If this approach is sane, could it be
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
If this approach is sane, could it be adopted for all other instances of
endianness detection in the py3k code base?
I think everything else is fine: float endianness detection (for marshal,
pickle, struct) is done at
Mark Dickinson dickinsm at gmail.com writes:
Has anyone tested a recent py3k using universal builds? Do all tests pass?
Do you know the right way to create a universal build?
Not at all, sorry.
Regards
Antoine.
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On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Mark Dickinson dickinsm at gmail.com writes:
Do you know the right way to create a universal build?
Not at all, sorry.
No problem :). I might try asking on the pythonmac-sig list.
Mark
In article loom.20090414t161327-...@post.gmane.org,
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Has anyone tested a recent py3k using universal builds? Do all tests pass?
It's done all the time. All of the current released installers (2.5,
2.6, 3.0) are 2-way (i386, ppc) universal and we
In article
5c6f2a5d0904140909x417d225ejd845de9c5c780...@mail.gmail.com,
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay, I think I might have fixed up the float endianness detection for
universal builds on OS X. Ned, any chance you could give this
another try with an updated version of the
In article
5c6f2a5d0904140930y7dc7cf4fg496d50fd34f89...@mail.gmail.com,
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you know the right way to create a universal build? If so, I'm in a
position
to test on 32-bit PPC, 32-bit Intel and 64-bit Intel.
The OSX installer script is in
Is it true that to produce a working universal/fat build of Python,
one has to first regenerate configure and pyconfig.h.in using autoconf
version = 2.62? If not, then I don't understand how the
AC_C_BIGENDIAN autoconf macro can be giving the right results.
The outcome of AC_C_BIGENDIAN
If this approach is sane, could it be adopted for all other instances of
endianness detection in the py3k code base?
Don't worry - the approach that we already take is already sane, so no
further changes are needed.
Regards,
Martin
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On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
The outcome of AC_C_BIGENDIAN isn't used on OSX. Depending on the exact
version you look at, things might work differently; in trunk,
Include/pymacconfig.h should be used [...]
Many thanks---that was the missing piece
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote:
The OSX installer script is in Mac/BuildScript/build-installer.py.
For 2-way builds, it essentially does:
export MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.3
configure -C --enable-framework
I rather like supporting short float representation. Given that CPython is
adopting it, I'm sure Jython will adopt this approach too as part of a
future Jython 3.x release.
- Jim
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.ukwrote:
Mark Dickinson wrote:
[snip...]
On 14 Apr, 2009, at 18:09, Mark Dickinson wrote:
Okay, I think I might have fixed up the float endianness detection for
universal builds on OS X. Ned, any chance you could give this
another try with an updated version of the py3k-short-float-repr
branch?
One thing I don't understand:
Is
Mark has uploaded our newest work to Rietveld, again at
http://codereview.appspot.com/33084/show. Since the last version, Mark
has added 387 support (and other fixes) and I've added localized
formatting ('n') back in as well as ',' formatting for float and int. I
think this addresses all open
2009/4/13 Eric Smith e...@trueblade.com:
Mark has uploaded our newest work to Rietveld, again at
http://codereview.appspot.com/33084/show. Since the last version, Mark has
added 387 support (and other fixes) and I've added localized formatting
('n') back in as well as ',' formatting for float
Benjamin Peterson wrote:
Cool. Will you use svnmerge.py to integrate the branch? After having
some odd behavior merging the io-c branch, suggest you just apply a
patch to the py3k branch,
We're just going to apply 2 patches, without using svnmerge. First we'll
add new files and the configure
In article 49e3d34e.8040...@trueblade.com,
Eric Smith e...@trueblade.com wrote:
Before then, if anyone could build and test the py3k-short-float-repr
branch on any of the following machines, that would be great:
[...]
Something bigendian, like a G4 Mac
I'll crank up some OS X installer
Mark Dickinson wrote:
[snip...]
Discussion points
=
(1) Any objections to including this into py3k? If there's
controversy, then I guess we'll need a PEP.
Big +1
(2) Should other Python implementations (Jython,
IronPython, etc.) be expected to use short float repr, or
It would have helped if I'd copied the list...
Sorry,
Paul.
2009/4/7 Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com:
2009/4/7 Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk:
Mark Dickinson wrote:
[snip...]
Discussion points
=
(1) Any objections to including this into py3k? If there's
Mark Dickinson wrote:
One PyCon 2009 sprint later, Eric Smith and I have
produced the py3k-short-float-repr branch, which implements
short repr of floats and also does some major cleaning
up of the current float formatting functions.
We've gone for the {fast, correct} pairing.
We'd like to get
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009, Mark Dickinson wrote:
Executive summary (details and discussion points below)
=
Some time ago, Noam Raphael pointed out that for a float x,
repr(x) can often be much shorter than it currently is, without
sacrificing the property that eval(repr(x)) ==
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