Re: [Python-ideas] Things that won't change (proposed PEP)

2017-01-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 13, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Greg Ewing wrote: >Criticisms Frequently Levelled Against Python Missteps Or Nonfeatures Guido Obviously Ordered, Saddling Everyone (Yes, okay, I know python's aren't venomous, but never let facts get in the way of a good, bad, tortured, or mentally mushed

Re: [Python-ideas] Things that won't change (proposed PEP)

2017-01-13 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 at 20:05 Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 13 January 2017 at 12:43, Stephen J. Turnbull > wrote: > > Mark E. Haase writes: > > > > > I don't think an informational PEP would make threads like Python > Review > > > shorter

Re: [Python-ideas] How to respond to trolling (Guido van Rossum)

2017-01-13 Thread Sven R. Kunze
Moreover, when I read "explicit self" is a wart, then I think, "you have absolutely no idea how fantastic 'explicit self' is". Thus, inferring from a single data-point these seems to be personal "dislike lists". In this regard, I tend to prefer Guido's one before any others if there is even