On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 11:30:50AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano writes:
>
> > Ironically, Ricky's in-fun suggestion that we use the tilde operator for
> > swapcase was the only suggestion in these two threads that actually met
> > the invariant for an inverse that ~~x =
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> Ironically, Ricky's in-fun suggestion that we use the tilde operator for
> swapcase was the only suggestion in these two threads that actually met
> the invariant for an inverse that ~~x == x.
You forgot about Turkish, I think it is, that has three cases (the
third
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 12:02 PM <2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com> wrote:
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> On 2021-10-20 at 11:48:30 +1100,
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> > TBH swapcase is a bit of a minefield if you don't know what language
> > you're working with.
>
> [...]
>
> > The most logical "negation" of a string woul
On 2021-10-20 at 11:48:30 +1100,
Chris Angelico wrote:
> TBH swapcase is a bit of a minefield if you don't know what language
> you're working with.
[...]
> The most logical "negation" of a string would be reversing it, which
> WOULD be... well, reversible. But that doesn't need an operator, si
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 11:35 AM Steven D'Aprano wrote:
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> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 11:10:52AM +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 11:02 AM Steven D'Aprano
> > wrote:
> > > Ironically, Ricky's in-fun suggestion that we use the tilde operator for
> > > swapcase was the only s
I'm here all week. Tip your wait staff.
Also, genuine apologies if mine was perceived as mean-sarcastic. It was
definitely sarcastic but I hoped it was fun enough in tone not to seem
mean-spirited. I apologize sincerely and without reservation and I would do
it better next time. :)
On Tue, Oct 19
On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 05:30:13PM -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> I would also like to remind various other posters that sarcasm is *not* a
> good way to welcome newbies. The name of the list is python-ideas, not
> python-ideas-to-shoot-down-sarcastically.
Guido, it isn't fair of you to jump in
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 11:10:52AM +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 11:02 AM Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > Ironically, Ricky's in-fun suggestion that we use the tilde operator for
> > swapcase was the only suggestion in these two threads that actually met
> > the invariant for a
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 11:02 AM Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Ironically, Ricky's in-fun suggestion that we use the tilde operator for
> swapcase was the only suggestion in these two threads that actually met
> the invariant for an inverse that ~~x == x.
>
>>> x = "ß"
:) Okay, so it's *mostly* an in
On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 05:10:45PM -0700, Jelle Zijlstra wrote:
> Your other post mostly attracted sarcastic replies, so I'll be more direct:
> It's highly unlikely that this will go anywhere.
Jelle, the second part of your sentence may be true, but the first part
is not. It is unfair and inaccu
(gonna test highlighting)
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Now I didn't expect this thread to blow up in replies with alternatives,
specifically `str1 / str2` for 'str1.split(str2)' and `seq1 * str` for
'str.join(seq1)'.
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13.10.21 03:10, Jelle Zijlstra пише:
> To get a new operator on a builtin type, you'll have to show that:
> - It's a common operation;
> - There's no convenient way to do it already; and
> - The meaning of the operator is reasonably clear to a reader of the code.
>
> Recent examples of new feature
13.10.21 03:05, MarylandBall Productions пише:
> I would think `~string` could be good for a shorthand way to convert a string
> to an integer, considering you’re “inverting” the string to another type,
> though a downside to this would be that explicit is always better than
> implicit and ~stri
It was written:
> How is `int(string, 16)` "inverting"?
It's the inverse of f"{number:x}", of course. Mappings between types
are ubiquitous, and (more or less) invertible ones are not uncommon.
It's an honest question, but I suggest we let slightly odd usage,
especially in scare quotes, pass.
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 12:05:35AM -, MarylandBall Productions wrote:
> I would think `~string` could be good for a shorthand way to convert a
> string to an integer, considering you’re “inverting” the string to
> another type
How is `int(string, 16)` "inverting"?
Inverting means to flip o
On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 11:50:27PM -, Jeremiah Vivian wrote:
> I posted a previous thread about overloading the unary `+` operator in
> strings with `ord`, and that expanded to more than just the unary `+`
> operator. So I'm saying now, there should be these implementations:
Did you actuall
On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 5:21 PM Jeremiah Vivian <
nohackingofkrow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So I guess I'll just have to keep this to myself.
>
I know this is disappointing, but in this case I agree with Jelle -- this
particular idea does not fit well in Python's design, it looks like an
attempt at
> "inverting" the string to another type
...That doesn't make any sense.
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On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 11:21 AM MarylandBall Productions
wrote:
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> I would think `~string` could be good for a shorthand way to convert a string
> to an integer, considering you’re “inverting” the string to another type,
> though a downside to this would be that explicit is always better than
So I guess I'll just have to keep this to myself.
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I would think `~string` could be good for a shorthand way to convert a string
to an integer, considering you’re “inverting” the string to another type,
though a downside to this would be that explicit is always better than implicit
and ~string will be a confusing operation to many users.
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El mar, 12 oct 2021 a las 16:51, Jeremiah Vivian (<
nohackingofkrow...@gmail.com>) escribió:
> I posted a previous thread about overloading the unary `+` operator in
> strings with `ord`, and that expanded to more than just the unary `+`
> operator. So I'm saying now, there should be these impleme
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 10:53 AM Jeremiah Vivian
wrote:
>
> I posted a previous thread about overloading the unary `+` operator in
> strings with `ord`, and that expanded to more than just the unary `+`
> operator. So I'm saying now, there should be these implementations:
> > +string - `int(stri
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