On 17 November 2016 at 02:50, Stephen J. Turnbull
wrote:
> Matthias Bussoni writes:
>
> > Please be mindful when replying, even if some of the lurker know
> > who some of you are and can figure out that some of the reply to
> > this thread below this message are sarcastic, not all readers
> >
On 17 November 2016 at 03:07, Stephen J. Turnbull
wrote:
> Paul Moore writes:
>
> > PS Note for anyone who wants to take this off on a wild tangent - my
> > above comment is *in the context of Python as it has been defined for
> > 20+ years*.
>
> Not quite. Augmented assignment operators were
On 17 November 2016 at 02:42, Stephen J. Turnbull
wrote:
> But I am not a draconian security policy QA/security reviewer. I'd
> take anything Paul Moore says pretty seriously, as he operates in such
> an environment.
For context, my environment is one that doesn't formally use Python,
but needs
On 17 November 2016 at 10:22, Paul Moore wrote:
> On 17 November 2016 at 03:07, Stephen J. Turnbull
> wrote:
>> Paul Moore writes:
>>
>> > PS Note for anyone who wants to take this off on a wild tangent - my
>> > above comment is *in the context of Python as it has been defined for
>> > 20+ ye
On 17.11.2016 11:16, Mikhail V wrote:
> Citation from
> http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0203/
>
> """
> Expressions of the form
>
> =
>
> are common enough in those languages to make the extra syntax
> worthwhile, and Python does not have significantly fewer of those
>
> On 16 Nov 2016, at 14:53, Paul Moore wrote:
>
> I'm not a web developer as such, although I do write code that
> consumes web services on occasion. I don't know what OIDC is, but I do
> know, for example, that some services use OAuth. So I can imagine
> being in a situation of saying "I want t
Nick Coghlan writes:
> In that context, the problem is the old "batteries that leak acid
> everywhere can be worse than no batteries at all" one: we know from
> painful experience with the SSL module that the standard library's
> typical release and adoption cycle can be seriously problematic
On 17 November 2016 at 10:58, Cory Benfield wrote:
> Paul, you mentioned that discovery on PyPI is a problem: I don’t contest that
> at all. But I don’t think the solution to that problem is to jam modules into
> the standard library, and I think even less of that idea when there is no
> formal
On 17 November 2016 at 11:12, Stephen J. Turnbull
wrote:
> > However, when it comes to draconian security policies, *transitive
> > recommendations have power*: if CPython is approved, and python-dev
> > collectively says "we recommend pip, virtualenv, and requests", then
> > folks in locked d
> On 17 Nov 2016, at 11:35, Paul Moore wrote:
>
> On 17 November 2016 at 10:58, Cory Benfield wrote:
>> Paul, you mentioned that discovery on PyPI is a problem: I don’t contest
>> that at all. But I don’t think the solution to that problem is to jam
>> modules into the standard library, and I
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 12:07:34PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Nick Timkovich writes:
>
> > I think the best way to remove compound operators would be to go
> > back in time and hit Dennis Ritchie with a bat at the exact moment
> > when the notion of them crosses his mind.
>
> True eno
> On 17 Nov 2016, at 12:58, Cory Benfield wrote:
>
>
>> On 16 Nov 2016, at 14:53, Paul Moore wrote:
>>
>> I'm not a web developer as such, although I do write code that
>> consumes web services on occasion. I don't know what OIDC is, but I do
>> know, for example, that some services use OAuth
On 17 November 2016 at 12:27, Cory Benfield wrote:
> This isn’t me disagreeing with you, just me pointing out that the fuzziness
> around this makes me nervous. It has been my experience that a large number
> of protocol implementations in the standard library are already struggling to
> meet t
Hello,
Following is my code :
#!/usr/bin/python
import socket
import struct
import binascii
rawSocket = socket.socket(socket.PF_PACKET,socket.SOCK_RAW,socket.htons(0x0800))
# use 0x0800 for IPv4 packets , 0x0003 is for sniffing all kinds of packets
while True:
pkt= rawSocket.recvfrom(2
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 11:51 PM, Roland Hedberg wrote:
>> A quick query of the PyPI download database for the three months shows the
>> following download counts for those modules:
>>
>> - requests-oauthlib == 1,897,048
>> - oauth2 == 349,759
>> - pyoidc == 10,520
>>
>> This is not intended to b
> On 17 Nov 2016, at 13:42, Paul Moore wrote:
>
> On 17 November 2016 at 12:27, Cory Benfield wrote:
>> This isn’t me disagreeing with you, just me pointing out that the fuzziness
>> around this makes me nervous. It has been my experience that a large number
>> of protocol implementations in
On 17 November 2016 at 14:45, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Personally, when I hit step 6, I search the web. PyPI search is
> exhaustive but not very usefully ranked (for this purpose). Searching
> for a keyword or protocol will give undue weight to a module whose
> name is simply that word, even if tha
Ayush,
This list is for new ideas for developing the Python language and
standard libraries. You are unlikely to get a useful answer here.
You would be better off asking on python-l...@python.org or Stack
Overflow, which are channels devoted to helping you write code with
Python.
Regards,
Ayush
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> > > Except Perl.
> >
> > Please don't.
>
> I don't think there is any need for that. No harm is done by a
> little light-hearted banter relating to the rivalry between
> programming language communities.
I don't disagree with that principle, just with the evalu
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 07:37:36AM +0100, Mikhail V wrote:
> On 17 November 2016 at 01:06, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> > It doesn't matter what keyword you come up with, you still have the
> > problem that this idea introduces a new keyword. New keywords always
> > break backwards compatibility, w
On 17 November 2016 at 21:35, Paul Moore wrote:
> On 17 November 2016 at 10:58, Cory Benfield wrote:
>> Instead, I think we need a way to be able to ask the question: “what does
>> the wider Python development community consider to be the gold standard for
>> solving problem X?”.
>
> Agreed, t
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