[Python-ideas] Is it Python 3 yet?

2017-01-26 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, The download button of https://www.python.org/ currently gives the choice between Python 2.7 and 3.6. I read more and more articles saying that we reached a point where Python 3 became more popular than Python 2, Python 3 has now enough new features to convince developers, etc. Is it time to

Re: [Python-ideas] globals should accept parenteses for extending beyond 1 line

2017-01-26 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 23 January 2017 at 22:29, MRAB wrote: > On 2017-01-23 20:09, Nick Timkovich wrote: >> >> Related and probably more common is the need for the line-continuation >> operator for long/multiple context managers with "with". I assume that's >> come up before, but was it

Re: [Python-ideas] Is it Python 3 yet?

2017-01-26 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 26.01.2017 17:11, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > The download button of https://www.python.org/ currently gives the > choice between Python 2.7 and 3.6. I read more and more articles > saying that we reached a point where Python 3 became more popular than > Python 2, Python 3 has now enough

Re: [Python-ideas] Is it Python 3 yet?

2017-01-26 Thread Victor Stinner
If you only want to vote +1 or -1 with no rationale, you may prefer to vote on my Twitter poll: https://twitter.com/VictorStinner/status/824654597235040257 Otherwise, please explain a little bit. Victor ___ Python-ideas mailing list

Re: [Python-ideas] Is it Python 3 yet?

2017-01-26 Thread Ryan Birmingham
It's certainly an interesting transition period. I'm not sure that the community is quite ready to just drop 2.7, but we could take a hint from angular 's solution to this issue and use small descriptions to guide more people to 3.6 rather than 2.7, then move to 2.7 being

Re: [Python-ideas] Is it Python 3 yet?

2017-01-26 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 26 January 2017 at 17:11, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > The download button of https://www.python.org/ currently gives the > choice between Python 2.7 and 3.6. I read more and more articles > saying that we reached a point where Python 3 became more popular than >

Re: [Python-ideas] Is it Python 3 yet?

2017-01-26 Thread Victor Stinner
2017-01-26 17:21 GMT+01:00 Paul Moore : > On a similar note, I always get caught out by the fact that the > Windows default download is the 32-bit version. Are we not yet at a > point where a sufficient majority of users have 64-bit machines, and > 32-bit should be seen as a

Re: [Python-ideas] Python-ideas Digest, Vol 122, Issue 100

2017-01-26 Thread Lesego Moloko
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Re: [Python-ideas] Is it Python 3 yet?

2017-01-26 Thread David Mertz
Big YES! On Jan 26, 2017 12:19 PM, "Berker Peksağ" wrote: > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Victor Stinner > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The download button of https://www.python.org/ currently gives the > > choice between Python 2.7 and 3.6. I

Re: [Python-ideas] Is it Python 3 yet?

2017-01-26 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 at 08:39 Paul Moore wrote: > On 26 January 2017 at 16:11, Victor Stinner > wrote: > > Is it time to "hide" Python 2.7 from the default choice and only show > > Python 3.6 *by default*? > > Actually, looking back at the

Re: [Python-ideas] Is it Python 3 yet?

2017-01-26 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 6:46 PM, Matthias Bussonnier wrote: > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > >> It's also relatively common to need a 64-bit Python, e.g. if running >> programs that need more than 4 GiB of address space.

Re: [Python-ideas] Is it Python 3 yet?

2017-01-26 Thread Matthias Bussonnier
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > I also don't know why your numbers are so much larger than mine... That's because copy/pasting from the html table prepend the row number to the download count. >> Also % seem swapped depending on python2 vs Python3, and

Re: [Python-ideas] Is it Python 3 yet?

2017-01-26 Thread Terry Reedy
On 1/26/2017 5:32 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Many applications on Windows are still 32-bit applications and unless you process large amounts of data, a 32-bit Python system is well worth using. In some cases, it's even needed, e.g. if you have to use an extension which links to a 32-bit library.

Re: [Python-ideas] Is it Python 3 yet?

2017-01-26 Thread Rob Cliffe
On 26/01/2017 17:49, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: -1 on hiding Python 2.7. It's our LTS release, so something we should be proud of until it goes out of support. +1 on emphasizing the 3.6 button and de-emphasizing 2.7, e.g. by making the 3.6 button yellow and the 2.7 grey. Quite. Please,

Re: [Python-ideas] Is it Python 3 yet?

2017-01-26 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 26.01.2017 23:09, Random832 wrote: > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017, at 11:21, Paul Moore wrote: >> On a similar note, I always get caught out by the fact that the >> Windows default download is the 32-bit version. Are we not yet at a >> point where a sufficient majority of users have 64-bit machines,

Re: [Python-ideas] Is it Python 3 yet?

2017-01-26 Thread eryk sun
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Paul Moore wrote: > On 26 January 2017 at 22:32, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> On 26.01.2017 23:09, Random832 wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017, at 11:21, Paul Moore wrote: On a similar note, I always get caught out by the fact