[Python-ideas] Re: Python, Be Bold!

2020-01-06 Thread Ronald Oussoren via Python-ideas
> On 5 Jan 2020, at 22:41, Andrew Barnert via Python-ideas > wrote: > > On Jan 5, 2020, at 00:17, James Lu wrote: >> >>  >> I use macOS, and using Python is very confusing. >> >> - Apple's bundled Python 2.7. > > Apple has made a mess of things, but they’ve actually fixed that mess in >

[Python-ideas] Re: Python, Be Bold!

2020-01-05 Thread Andrew Barnert via Python-ideas
On Jan 5, 2020, at 00:17, James Lu wrote: > >  > I use macOS, and using Python is very confusing. > > - Apple's bundled Python 2.7. Apple has made a mess of things, but they’ve actually fixed that mess in 10.15—they now give you 3.7 and 2.7, and neither one is broken or weird. That being

[Python-ideas] Re: Python, Be Bold!

2020-01-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 7:19 PM James Lu wrote: > > I use macOS, and using Python is very confusing. > > - Apple's bundled Python 2.7. > - Anaconda (Python scientific stack package manager) Python and conda. > - Homebrew (3rd party package manager for macOS) Python and pip. > I also believe that

[Python-ideas] Re: Python, Be Bold!

2020-01-05 Thread James Lu
I use macOS, and using Python is very confusing. - Apple's bundled Python 2.7. - Anaconda (Python scientific stack package manager) Python and conda. - Homebrew (3rd party package manager for macOS) Python and pip. I also believe that there is a PSF Python installer, but I am not sure. Python,

[Python-ideas] Re: Python, Be Bold!

2020-01-03 Thread Andrew Barnert via Python-ideas
Where’s the initial email you’re replying to here? I don’t have it in my inbox, and it isn’t on the Mailman archive either, and since you snipped it down to a single line I have no idea what that snippet was referring to. Meanwhile: > On Jan 2, 2020, at 18:14, James Lu wrote: > >  >

[Python-ideas] Re: Python, Be Bold!

2020-01-03 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 1:16 AM Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > If you really want to save disk space measured in MB, I guess you'd > probably want LRU semantics, and possibly a blacklist of modules that > are only used interactively and at most once a day or so, so the time > to import doesn't

[Python-ideas] Re: Python, Be Bold!

2020-01-03 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
James Lu writes: > Ideally, we'd have a functional package manager: one that can > delete binaries when disk space is running low, and recompiles from > sources when the binary is needed again. First, that's not what package managers do. Package managers manage dependencies, not disk space.

[Python-ideas] Re: Python, Be Bold!

2020-01-02 Thread James Lu
Ideally, we'd have a functional package manager: one that can delete binaries when disk space is running low, and recompiles from sources when the binary is needed again. It could store Python 2 as a series of diffs against Python 3. On Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 2:22 AM Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: