From: "Littlefield, Tyler"
And we already do. I haven't campaigned for changes with TKInter or spoken
to anyone about them, because I haven't downloaded a program to find out
it was
written to use TKInter, and thus unacccessible. I'm not saying that there
aren't any, just saying it's not some
From: "Littlefield, Tyler"
>Because of this, many blind people try to show that they are like the
sighted, that they can do everything, that they are >independent, so they
like to
>talk about the movies they watch, they like to have touch-pad mobile
phones and so on, even though the accessibil
From: "Littlefield, Tyler"
>It would be great if the Tk/Tkinter developers would be interested in
making >this GUI lib accessible.
They're not going to do it without knowing what makes accessible
accessible, and why it needs to be so. So, rather than tell the world
about how -some- blind peopl
From: "Infinity77"
As a general rule, a GUI-newbie should try all the GUI
toolkits out there and settle with the one which looks easier/nicer/
Yes it would be nice, but... does it happen that way usually? :-)
Octavian
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On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Alan Franzoni wrote:
> Hello,
> I'd like to have a system which lets me do certain actions if the
> duck-type of a certain objects matches what I expect, i.e. I'd like to
> have a formalization of what it's sometimes done through getattr()
> calls:
>
> if getattr(m
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:16 AM, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jan 24, 10:51 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote:
>
> > No. I am saying as a matter of legal permissibility, it may be included
> > in the stdlib.
> >
> > But, as a matter of both policy and ethical behavior, it will not
> > without it being donate
Great thank you
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On Jan 24, 10:51 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote:
> No. I am saying as a matter of legal permissibility, it may be included
> in the stdlib.
>
> But, as a matter of both policy and ethical behavior, it will not
> without it being donated by the author.
I don't think you have any idea of what you are sa
At 10:39 PM 1/24/2011, Jason Swails wrote:
[snip]
Two valuable things I have taken away from this extended
argument: 1) This being my first super-high volume mailing list
with the occasional neurotically opinionated poster, MRAB introduced
me to Godwin's law for the first time. Considering it
You're looking at it wrong. It doesn't matter what type of cursor it
is, only if you can get the correct number. So use a try...except:
try:
cursor.execute("""
select last_insert_rowid()
""")
except:
cursor.execute("""
select currval('my_sequence')
""")
That's
On 1/24/11 8:32 PM, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jan 24, 9:54 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote:
>> On 1/24/11 2:16 PM, rantingrick wrote:
>
>> wxPython is open source, and technically anyone has the legal right to
>> include it in whatever they want -- but no module goes into stdlib,
>> period, without it bein
Oddly enough, this post STARTED right around the time I joined the list.
(Tkinter: The good, the bad, the ugly) It's been an interesting
metamorphosis to watch as the ranting(rick) started quasi-civil and
"discussionary", then evolved within a matter of weeks to violence and
hyperbole.
A lot of ra
On Jan 24, 9:54 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote:
> On 1/24/11 2:16 PM, rantingrick wrote:
> wxPython is open source, and technically anyone has the legal right to
> include it in whatever they want -- but no module goes into stdlib,
> period, without it being donated by its authors for that purpose.
Ok
On 1/24/11 2:16 PM, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jan 24, 3:58 pm, Infinity77 wrote:
>
>> I have been involved in the wxPython development for many years
>> (mostly on implementation of custom widgets, in the AGW library), and
>> I share Robin's concerns about this kind of "publicity" given to
>> wxPyt
On 01/18/2011 06:26 PM, Michael Rauh wrote:
I am new to python, and attempting to install the learning module
swampy. http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/swampy/install.html
Unfortunately, I am attempting to do this on windows vista, which does
not appear to be cooperating. Once I click on t
>I think you are lying about being blind. And if you are, i am disgusted.
By golly, you caught me in the act! shhh, don't tell everyone; it's all
an elaborate front. The braille, the screen reader, the cane... I just
like to
fake it.
block quote
Well if i were a blind person i would use the mo
On Jan 24, 2:11 pm, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jan 22, 6:07 pm, rantingrick wrote:
>
> > I await any challengers...
>
> CODE UPDATE
>
> * fixed linux whiners bug
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/thefutureofpython/home/code-challenges
So what? Now that the code runs without segfault nobody has not
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:37:18 +0100, Alexander Kapps wrote:
> I *really* don't understand why RR gets so much attention. He has
> (massively!) insulted everybody around, has shown his low knowledge and
> understanding, his selfish and arrogant behaviour, etc.
http://xkcd.com/386/
--
Steven
--
There are two completely different issues here:
1. Tyler's/Octavian's very valid (but AFAICT now somewhat
over-expressed) point that Tk/Tkinter isn't accessible.
I accept this, but don't see any point against Tk(inter) in this per
se. Tk(inter) could be advanced to support screen readers and
On Jan 24, 2:16 pm, rantingrick wrote:
> And i know the real reason you and Robin do not want wxPython
> in the stdlib. Because you do not want to lose your selfish status
> within the wxPython community. When wxPython becomes a stdlib module
> then you will answer directly to Guido and Python-dev
On Jan 24, 5:31 pm, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2011-01-24, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:17:01 -0800, rantingrick wrote:
>
> >> I was being a closed minded idiot at the time. I have since evolved.
>
> > "Was"?
>
[...snip: Steven Trolling...]
> > Unfortunately I've wasted fa
On 2011-01-24, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:17:01 -0800, rantingrick wrote:
>
>> I was being a closed minded idiot at the time. I have since evolved.
>
> "Was"?
>
> It's been fun (for some definition of fun) watching your
> grandstanding, your haranguing the community into doing
For psycopg2: ''
(of course, this could also be due to RHEL5's ancient python).
Dima
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:17:01 -0800, rantingrick wrote:
> I was
> being a closed minded idiot at the time. I have since evolved.
"Was"?
It's been fun (for some definition of fun) watching your grandstanding,
your haranguing the community into doing things your way, your insulting
the blind for
On 1/24/2011 1:51 PM Alan said...
Why do function objects compare in this way to numbers?
To provide ordering capabilities. IIRC, comparisons of differing types
are arbitrary but consistent.
Emile
Thanks,
Alan Isaac
def f(): return
...
f>5
True
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On 1/24/2011 4:51 PM, Alan wrote:
Why do function objects compare in this way to numbers?
Thanks,
Alan Isaac
def f(): return
...
f>5
True
In 3.x
>>> def f(): pass
>>> f > 5
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
f > 5
TypeError: unorderable types: function() > int(
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:24:24 -0800, Robin Dunn wrote:
> On Jan 24, 12:03 pm, rantingrick wrote:
>> On Jan 24, 1:57 pm, Robin Dunn wrote:
>
>> > BTW, on behalf of the wxPython community I'd like to apologize for
>> > the havoc caused by the flaming troll escaping from his cage. In
>> > general
On Jan 24, 4:16 pm, rantingrick wrote:
> ...
> Good, and again i cannot stress how little we care about your opinion.
You keep using the word "we". I do not think it means what you think
it means.
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On 24/01/2011 21:51, Alan wrote:
Why do function objects compare in this way to numbers?
Thanks,
Alan Isaac
def f(): return
...
f>5
True
In Python 2 any object can be compared in this way to any other. The
result is arbitrary but consistent.
In Python 3 that has changed because in practi
On Jan 24, 4:19 pm, "Littlefield, Tyler" wrote:
> I say this all because I want to make a point. I don't expect the world
> to revolve around what is and isn't accessible. While laws do exist, if
> I ran around quoting the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) at
> everyone who didn't make things
On Jan 24, 2011 5:31 PM, "Alan" wrote:
>
> Why do function objects compare in this way to numbers?
> Thanks,
> Alan Isaac
>
>
> >>> def f(): return
> ...
> >>> f>5
> True
>
Python 2 returned an arbitrary but consistent ordering for almost all
comparisons, just in case you were doing something wei
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Alan wrote:
> Why do function objects compare in this way to numbers?
> Thanks,
> Alan Isaac
>
>
def f(): return
> ...
f>5
> True
>
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>
They shouldn't, but did in 2.x, and no longer do in 3.x:
$ /
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Alan wrote:
> Why do function objects compare in this way to numbers?
> Thanks,
> Alan Isaac
>
>
def f(): return
> ...
f>5
> True
http://docs.python.org/library/stdtypes.html#comparisons
Python 3 fixes this particular wart.
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On Jan 24, 3:53 pm, "Littlefield, Tyler" wrote:
> RR, you idiot. Did you -not- read that I was blind and using a screen
> reader? And wasn't it -you- yelling at someone about reading and
> comprehention?
> On 1/24/2011 12:34 PM, MRAB wrote:
Are you telling me that you are blind? You better not be
Hi,
I'm a python newbie. By newbie I mean two days ago.
It was suggested to me that I work with python.
Unfortunately at work I must run this on a windows machiene.
However, I am having difficultly installing MySQLdb.
First is it even possible under my current environment?
I am using python(2.6.5
On Jan 24, 3:58 pm, Infinity77 wrote:
> I have been involved in the wxPython development for many years
> (mostly on implementation of custom widgets, in the AGW library), and
> I share Robin's concerns about this kind of "publicity" given to
> wxPython.
Who cares what you think about wxPython's
>Because of this, many blind people try to show that they are like the
sighted, that they can do everything, that they are >independent, so
they like to
>talk about the movies they watch, they like to have touch-pad mobile
phones and so on, even though the accessibility of >those gadgets is
rea
rantingrick:
> Not if we used the underlying MS library! Windows has such a rich
> library why not use it? Why must we constantly re-invent the wheel?
It is up to the GUI toolkit or application to implement the
interfaces defined by Windows Automation API on every object it
displays. The stand
>It would be great if the Tk/Tkinter developers would be interested in
making >this GUI lib accessible.
They're not going to do it without knowing what makes accessible
accessible, and why it needs to be so. So, rather than tell the world
about how -some- blind people want to be like sighted peo
On Jan 24, 9:57 pm, Robin Dunn wrote:
> On Jan 23, 4:31 pm, "Martin v. Loewis" wrote:
>
> > > WxPython Challenge 1 code updated...
>
> > > * Fixed tab traveral
> > > * Removed hand-holding code
> > > * Removed some cruft
>
> > > https://sites.google.com/site/thefutureofpython/home/code-challen
On Jan 24, 3:47 pm, Neil Hodgson wrote:
> Making Tk as accessible as Windows or GTK+ would be a huge job.
Not if we used the underlying MS library! Windows has such a rich
library why not use it? Why must we constantly re-invent the wheel?
Windowing GUIs are not recent technology. These thing
Why do function objects compare in this way to numbers?
Thanks,
Alan Isaac
>>> def f(): return
...
>>> f>5
True
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RR, you idiot. Did you -not- read that I was blind and using a screen
reader? And wasn't it -you- yelling at someone about reading and
comprehention?
On 1/24/2011 12:34 PM, MRAB wrote:
On 24/01/2011 18:48, rantingrick wrote:
On Jan 24, 12:21 pm, "Littlefield, Tyler" wrote:
[...snip: good dis
Octavian Rasnita:
> There are no many people that know about this thing,
> but there are standards like MSAA that can be followed
> by them if they really want to offer accessibility. I
> guess that if Tkinter would support MSAA (Microsoft
> Active Accessibility) in its Windows version, the screen
On Jan 24, 2:49 pm, Bryan wrote:
> On Jan 24, 2:33 pm, rantingrick wrote:
>
> > Yes and you made your selfishness quite clear! Be careful my friend,
> > because as Tyler found out, this mindset becomes a slippery slope
> > *very* quickly!
>
> I merely made the observation that most programmers do
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:23:13 -0800, rantingrick wrote:
> I am not
> trying to create a working file browser so you can steal my code.
2011/1/24 rantingrick :
This thread has been an eye opener for myself [...]
> we cannot even work together to get some simple code
debugged.
Aha! So you want
Peter
> > I can't run your code because you didn't make it standalone,
Thanks for the heads up, I've made a simple version of the clusterer
which you can view on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/7HmAkmfj If you have time
to look through
my code I would be very grateful!
> > but in your case th
From: "Mark Roseman"
> "Littlefield, Tyler" wrote:
>> Rather, I believe
>> those pushing accessibility should concentrate on the root cause; that
>> of fixing TKInter, and not forcing everyone else to use a different library.
>
>
> Here, here. From my queries to some of the Tcl/Tk folks, it
From: "rantingrick"
> Obviously it
> would be awesome, but I think Octavian is just focusing on himself, and
> not the actual big picture here.
Yes Octavian is the only disabled person in the world. What
a selfish, selfish person he is. Shame on you Octavian, Shame on You!
You just showed your
From: "MRAB"
> On 24/01/2011 18:05, rantingrick wrote:
>> On Jan 24, 12:00 pm, Bryan wrote:
>>
>>> Accessibility, like internationalization, is something few programmers
>>> spend much time thinking about.
>>
>> Thats another uninformed statement by you we can add to the mountains
>> of useless c
From: "Bryan"
I wish I could respond to that, but I have no experience with screen
readers. Are there any free ones, or ones with free trials, that I
could try out? I'm not yet convinced it's any better or worse than
wxPython since you're only a single datapoint, but of course it's
possible. If y
From: "Mark Roseman"
> Octavian, thank you for very clearly making and repeating your point
> about screen readers. It is very obvious that at this point in time Tk
> (and hence Tkinter) is not a suitable candidate if screen readers are an
> important concern.
The screen readers are always a
From: "Littlefield, Tyler"
> Hello,
>
> I have been on another list with Octavian, and he takes his
> accessibility a bit to seriously. If things went his way, he wants laws
> where -everything- has to be accessible, and it is illegal not to do so.
Is the discrimination legal in your country
From: "Ethan Furman"
> Octavian Rasnita wrote:
>> From: "rantingrick"
>>> WxPython versus Tkinter (A code battle to the death!)
>>>
>>> by Rick Johnson.
> [...]
>
> Octavian,
>
> Please do not repost rr's crap in its entirety, or you'll find yourself
> added to many killfiles -- just like he i
On Jan 24, 2:33 pm, rantingrick wrote:
>
> Yes and you made your selfishness quite clear! Be careful my friend,
> because as Tyler found out, this mindset becomes a slippery slope
> *very* quickly!
I merely made the observation that most programmers don't think about
these topics and it would be
On 24/01/2011 19:44, dmaziuk wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've wrapper class around some sql statements and I'm trying to add a
method that does:
if my_cursor is a sqlite cursor, then run "select
last_insert_rowid()"
else if it's a psycopg2 cursor, then run "select
currval( 'my_sequence' )"
etc.
On Jan 24, 7:44 pm, dmaziuk wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've wrapper class around some sql statements and I'm trying to add a
> method that does:
> if my_cursor is a sqlite cursor, then run "select
> last_insert_rowid()"
> else if it's a psycopg2 cursor, then run "select
> currval( 'my_sequence'
On Jan 24, 1:23 pm, Bryan wrote:
> Ok, great. You've identified one programmer who thinks about
> internationalization. Not much of a compelling argument there.
Oh Bryan your view so simplistic. There is a whole world out there you
know.
> However, I think you missed my point. My point wasn't t
On Jan 24, 12:03 pm, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jan 24, 1:57 pm, Robin Dunn wrote:
> > BTW, on behalf of the wxPython community I'd like to apologize for the
> > havoc caused by the flaming troll escaping from his cage. In general
> > wxPython users are much less militant and zealotty and honor
>
On Jan 22, 6:07 pm, rantingrick wrote:
> I await any challengers...
CODE UPDATE
* fixed linux whiners bug
https://sites.google.com/site/thefutureofpython/home/code-challenges
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On Jan 24, 1:57 pm, Robin Dunn wrote:
> On Jan 23, 4:31 pm, "Martin v. Loewis" wrote:
>
> > > WxPython Challenge 1 code updated...
>
> > > * Fixed tab traveral
> > > * Removed hand-holding code
> > > * Removed some cruft
>
> > > https://sites.google.com/site/thefutureofpython/home/code-challe
On Jan 24, 1:34 pm, MRAB wrote:
> [snip]
> I'd like to invoke Godwin's law at this point.
Actually no. And i'll give good reason.
Tyler's argument, which lacked greatly in compassion for people with
disabilities brought out my accusation. It was not an accusation meant
to merely insult just to
I'm having similar issue but everything seems to be installed in correct
places.
Loaded "CX_ORACLE.PYD" at address 0x6BD8. Successfully hooked module.
Loaded "OCI.DLL" at address 0x1000. Successfully hooked module.
Unloaded "CX_ORACLE.PYD" at address 0x6BD8.
Unloaded "OCI.DLL" at ad
On Jan 23, 4:31 pm, "Martin v. Loewis" wrote:
> > WxPython Challenge 1 code updated...
>
> > * Fixed tab traveral
> > * Removed hand-holding code
> > * Removed some cruft
>
> > https://sites.google.com/site/thefutureofpython/home/code-challenges
>
> > Good luck!
>
> Still crashes the interpret
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Hi everyone,
I've wrapper class around some sql statements and I'm trying to add a
method that does:
if my_cursor is a sqlite cursor, then run "select
last_insert_rowid()"
else if it's a psycopg2 cursor, then run "select
currval( 'my_sequence' )"
etc.
The best I can come up with is import bo
On 24/01/2011 18:48, rantingrick wrote:
On Jan 24, 12:21 pm, "Littlefield, Tyler" wrote:
[...snip: good discussion...]
Rather, I believe
those pushing accessibility should concentrate on the root cause; that
of fixing TKInter, and not forcing everyone else to use a different library.
Now
On 1/24/2011 8:13 AM Grant Edwards said...
On 2011-01-24, rantingrick wrote:
Bryan you are clearly an idiot. I am demanding that from now on, you
must have at least a 120 or higher IQ before participating in any of
my threads.
Rantingrick thinks certain threads belong to him.
'nuf said.
On Jan 24, 12:31 pm, "Littlefield, Tyler" wrote:
> Bryan: Here's a pretty good list for you.
> Windows:
> Jaws for Windows (http://freedomscientific.com). Not free, but you get a
> 40 minute demo before you need to reboot.
> Nonvisual Desktop Access:http://www.nvda-project.org/
> Free, open source
On 24/01/2011 18:05, rantingrick wrote:
On Jan 24, 12:00 pm, Bryan wrote:
Accessibility, like internationalization, is something few programmers
spend much time thinking about.
Thats another uninformed statement by you we can add to the mountains
of useless cruft you have offered so far. Uni
On Jan 24, 12:05 pm, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jan 24, 12:00 pm, Bryan wrote:
>
> > Accessibility, like internationalization, is something few programmers
> > spend much time thinking about.
>
> Thats another uninformed statement by you we can add to the mountains
> of useless cruft you have offere
"Littlefield, Tyler" wrote:
> Rather, I believe
> those pushing accessibility should concentrate on the root cause; that
> of fixing TKInter, and not forcing everyone else to use a different library.
Here, here. From my queries to some of the Tcl/Tk folks, it seems that
while the knowledge a
On Jan 24, 8:49 am, Mike Driscoll wrote:
>
> Bryan, on the other hand, has been aTkinterluminary who has helped
> me in the past when I was learningTkinterand I won't be too
> surprised if he helps me again. I'm sorry he's had so much trouble
> with wx though.
Thanks for the kind words, I appreci
On Jan 24, 12:21 pm, "Littlefield, Tyler" wrote:
[...snip: good discussion...]
> Rather, I believe
> those pushing accessibility should concentrate on the root cause; that
> of fixing TKInter, and not forcing everyone else to use a different library.
Now you go too far!
And this is an ironic
On Jan 24, 8:15 am, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jan 24, 6:33 am, Bryan wrote:
>
> > I think I'm qualified, though I guess only you can tell me if I
> > measure up to your standards.
>
> Go on...
>
> > I have 15 years or so of tk development,
> > though admittedly mostly with Tcl. Most recently I've s
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:57 PM, rantingrick wrote:
> Why don't you just tell him to shut the hell up Mark?
> accidentally quoting me too much. You guys are very disappointing to
> this community. Everyone here needs a voice. We must never engage in
> behaviors that would limit speech from our c
Bryan: Here's a pretty good list for you.
Windows:
Jaws for Windows (http://freedomscientific.com). Not free, but you get a
40 minute demo before you need to reboot.
Nonvisual Desktop Access: http://www.nvda-project.org/
Free, open source, written in python (with some core stuff in c/c++).
Linux
On Jan 24, 12:11 pm, Bryan wrote:
> It is a provable fact that wxPython segfaults. You yourself proved
> that. That is, in and of itself, *not* a reason to pick some other
> toolkit. It's merely a datapoint. It's not a datapoint you can just
> sweep under the rug, however, like you seem to want t
Mark Roseman wrote:
I don't object and in fact commend you for advocating for accessibility.
I do feel you are not acknowledging and fully respecting that others may
be in situations where accessibility may not be the primary concern.
Well said.
~Ethan~
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Hello,
I have been on another list with Octavian, and he takes his
accessibility a bit to seriously. If things went his way, he wants laws
where -everything- has to be accessible, and it is illegal not to do so.
As a sidenote, I would like to preface everything I'm going to say by
mentioning
On Jan 24, 7:32 am, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jan 24, 7:24 am, Bryan wrote:
>
> > On Jan 24, 12:06 am, rusi wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 24, 9:16 am, "Littlefield, Tyler" wrote:
>
> > > Of course as Steven pointed out wx is written in C++ which is almost
> > > certainly where the crash is occurring.
> >
On Jan 24, 12:00 pm, Bryan wrote:
> Accessibility, like internationalization, is something few programmers
> spend much time thinking about.
Thats another uninformed statement by you we can add to the mountains
of useless cruft you have offered so far. Unicode IS
internationalization and Guido t
On Jan 24, 7:27 am, "Octavian Rasnita" wrote:
> From: "Bryan"
>
> > It would be hard (but not impossible, by any
> > stretch) for me to duplicate your code. Certainly, it would take more
> > lines of code but that's about it. OTOH, it would be very difficult
> > indeed to create atkinterprogram t
Dnia Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:09:31 -0800, santosh hs napisał(a):
> Hi All,
> i am beginner to python please tell me which is the best available
> reference for beginner to start from novice
For most CS stuff O'Reilly is most often a good bet. Therefore I think
you'll find Mark Lutz's "Learning Pytho
On Jan 24, 11:39 am, Mark Roseman wrote:
> "Octavian Rasnita" wrote:
>
> > But unfortunately it is not accessible for screen readers and it
> > discriminates many potential users.
>
> Octavian, thank you for very clearly making and repeating your point
> about screen readers. It is very obvious
On 24-Jan-11 12:38 PM, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote:
santosh hs wrote:
Hi All,
i am beginner to python please tell me which is the best available
reference for beginner to start from novice
Hi,
You could have searched the archive, this question was raised many times.
http://wiki.python.org/mo
"Octavian Rasnita" wrote:
> But unfortunately it is not accessible for screen readers and it
> discriminates many potential users.
Octavian, thank you for very clearly making and repeating your point
about screen readers. It is very obvious that at this point in time Tk
(and hence Tkinter)
santosh hs wrote:
Hi All,
i am beginner to python please tell me which is the best available
reference for beginner to start from novice
Hi,
You could have searched the archive, this question was raised many times.
http://wiki.python.org/moin/IntroductoryBooks
I read "Learning Python" whe
search for byte of python in google its good book for beginners . .
CHEERS
CNA
9986229891
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:39 PM, santosh hs wrote:
> Hi All,
> i am beginner to python please tell me which is the best available
> reference for beginner to start from novice
> --
> http://mail.python
On Jan 22, 2:22 pm, Rikishi42 wrote:
> I'm in need for a graphical pop-up that will display a (unicode ?) string in
> a field, allow the user to change it and return the modified string.
>
> Maybe also keep the original one displayed above it.
>
> Something like this:
> +--
On Jan 24, 10:38 am, Mike Driscoll wrote:
> I haven't gotten my ideas fleshed out yet. When I do, I will describe
> them.
I look forward to any proposals and i would like to be a part of this
challenge both for wxPython and Tkinter since i have used both.
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On Jan 24, 7:32 am, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote:
> rantingrick wrote:
> > I am demanding that from now on, you
> > must have at least a 120 or higher IQ before participating in any of
> > my threads.
>
> You mean, you are putting yourself in your own killfile ;)
:)
Actually i never use t
On 1/23/11 12:43 AM, Slie wrote:
I found that there was a code submission at NumPy 1.4 but I can not find in the
documentation search for Date nor have found anything other then that
discussion of the ability.
Anyone have any ideas suggestions? I just want my program to be able to
calculate
Hi All,
i am beginner to python please tell me which is the best available
reference for beginner to start from novice
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From: "Littlefield, Tyler"
> >Or you have started to use Linux and now you don't care about the
> majority of >users that need to use a screen reader?
> I said nothing the like. TkInter does have problemns with Jaws, but I'm
> not going to sit here and say the same thing over and over as you are
Octavian Rasnita wrote:
From: "rantingrick"
WxPython versus Tkinter (A code battle to the death!)
by Rick Johnson.
[...]
Octavian,
Please do not repost rr's crap in its entirety, or you'll find yourself
added to many killfiles -- just like he is.
~Ethan~
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On Jan 24, 9:02 am, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jan 24, 8:49 am, Mike Driscoll wrote:
>
> > On Jan 24, 7:24 am, Bryan wrote:
> > > In my experience, segfaults with wxPython aren't daily, but they are
> > > pretty much weekly. There are weeks that can go by without them, but
> > > then I'll have seve
On Jan 24, 10:13 am, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2011-01-24, rantingrick wrote:
>
> > Bryan you are clearly an idiot. I am demanding that from now on, you
> > must have at least a 120 or higher IQ before participating in any of
> > my threads.
>
> Rantingrick thinks certain threads belong to him.
Terry Reedy wrote:
The straightforward code
if a in L and b in L and c not in L and d not in L
scans the list 4 times.
of course for a single scan one can setify the list and write
S=set(L)
if a in S and b in S and c not in S and d not in S
or even, I guess, something like
{a,b} <= S and
On 2011-01-24, Corey Richardson wrote:
> Python (and supposedly wxPython) are cross-platform. Code that runs on
> one should run on the other unmodified.
No, that's not what "cross-platform" really means. Cross-platform
means that it's possible (and reasonably stright-forward) to write
code th
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