Re: IMAP4_SSL, libgmail, GMail and corporate firewall/proxy

2011-02-16 Thread Chris Rebert
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Malcolm Greene wrote: > Andrea, > > What type of result do you get trying port 993 ? i.e. The port Google explicitly says to use for IMAP in Gmail's help docs. Cheers, Chris -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: toy list processing problem: collect similar terms

2011-02-16 Thread WJ
Xah Lee wrote: > here's a interesting toy list processing problem. > > I have a list of lists, where each sublist is labelled by > a number. I need to collect together the contents of all sublists > sharing > the same label. So if I have the list > > ((0 a b) (1 c d) (2 e f) (3 g h) (1 i j) (2 k

Re: Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Adam Skutt wrote: > On Feb 16, 9:00 pm, Dan Stromberg wrote: >> So yeah, whether you use perl or anything else invoked with #!, you're >> pretty much better off with sudo, or a tiny C wrapper that's so simple >> it's hard to get wrong. > > UNIX makes this almost i

Re: IMAP4_SSL, libgmail, GMail and corporate firewall/proxy

2011-02-16 Thread Malcolm Greene
Andrea, What type of result do you get trying port 993 ? Malcolm -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: IMAP4_SSL, libgmail, GMail and corporate firewall/proxy

2011-02-16 Thread Andrea Gavana
Hi, On 17 February 2011 10:28, BJ Swope wrote: > Imap is not on port 443.  IIRC, it's late and I'm to lazy to even google it > right now, but it's port 143 isn't it. I have tried that, and I get the following with imaplib: Traceback (most recent call last): File "D:\MyProjects\gmail.py", line

Re: IMAP4_SSL, libgmail, GMail and corporate firewall/proxy

2011-02-16 Thread BJ Swope
Imap is not on port 443. IIRC, it's late and I'm to lazy to even google it right now, but it's port 143 isn't it. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Andrea Gavana wrote: > Hi All, > >I apologize in advance if I'm going to write very stupid things, > my expertise in http/socket/imap stuff is

Re: Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:10 PM, GSO wrote: >> pretty much better off with sudo, or a tiny C wrapper that's so simple >> it's hard to get wrong.  However, perl's taint feature would be useful > > This snippet is about as tiny as it gets in C I think: Well, it could be tinier really, and actually,

IMAP4_SSL, libgmail, GMail and corporate firewall/proxy

2011-02-16 Thread Andrea Gavana
Hi All, I apologize in advance if I'm going to write very stupid things, my expertise in http/socket/imap stuff is very close to zero. I'm using Python 2.6.5 on Windows XP SP3. I am trying to access my GMail account from my office, and it appears our company's firewall is blocking all SMTP/PO

Re: Is this a bug of str.join?

2011-02-16 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 16Feb2011 12:01, Terry Reedy wrote: | On 2/16/2011 1:32 AM, fireinice wrote: | >I'm sorry, I found it should be the terminal width caused visual | >problem, please kindly ignore this post. | | For future reference, the way to get more info about what is really | in a string is to print its rep

Re: Method chaining on decorator got SyntaxError

2011-02-16 Thread alex23
Makoto Kuwata wrote: > I'm sad about this restriction because: > >     @recipe.product('*.html').ingreds('$(1).rst') >     def file_html(c): >         # do something > > is enough simple and more readable than: > >     @recipe.product('*.html') >     @recipe.ingreds('$(1).rst') >     def file_html

Re: Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread GSO
I essentially don't want to take a risk with a home CCTV prog., so unless I can persuade a highly skilled Unix programmer to write a wrapper (which I can't), then I think I'm best sticking with sudo. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread GSO
> > Passing things through sudo(1) is really the only sensible route these > days but even that can be fraught with peril.  For something as simple > as, 'Write to a normally restricted area' it's probably no more secure > than an ACL (and potentially way less if you screw up the sudo > configurati

Re: Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread Nobody
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 01:47:10 +0100, Alexander Kapps wrote: >> Having said that I'm possibly arriving at the conclusion that a quick >> perl script might be the simplest/easiest and most secure option - I >> read perl includes code to safely run suid perl scripts - will dig out >> my perl tomes. >

Re: Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread Adam Skutt
On Feb 16, 9:00 pm, Dan Stromberg wrote: > So yeah, whether you use perl or anything else invoked with #!, you're > pretty much better off with sudo, or a tiny C wrapper that's so simple > it's hard to get wrong. UNIX makes this almost impossible unless your wrapper is cooperative with whatever p

Re: Method chaining on decorator got SyntaxError

2011-02-16 Thread Makoto Kuwata
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:40 AM, MRAB wrote: > On 17/02/2011 01:55, Makoto Kuwata wrote: >> >> Thank you MRAB, >> >> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:49 AM, MRAB  wrote: >>> >>> You may want to read the discussion at: >>> >>> >>> https://groups.google.com/group/python-ideas/browse_thread/thread/1eebf486

Re: Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread Adam Skutt
On Feb 16, 8:40 pm, GSO wrote: > Apols for being a nuisance.  I'm normally if anything a web programmer. > > It looks like there are set-id functions in the os module.  Further I > don't actually need root privileges, just write access to a directory > that a user ordinarily does not have write ac

Re: Method chaining on decorator got SyntaxError

2011-02-16 Thread MRAB
On 17/02/2011 01:55, Makoto Kuwata wrote: Thank you MRAB, On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:49 AM, MRAB wrote: You may want to read the discussion at: https://groups.google.com/group/python-ideas/browse_thread/thread/1eebf486969c39a1/?hl=en -- I can't figure out what is the point or conclusion of t

Re: How to handle sockets - easily?

2011-02-16 Thread William Ahern
Bubba wrote: > William Ahern's log on stardate 16 vlj 2011 > /snip > > I think that there's an asynchronous all-Python MySQL library, but > > I'm not sure. Maybe one day I can open source my asynchronous MySQL C > > library. (I always recommend people to use PostgreSQL, though; which > > is supe

Re: Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread GSO
> pretty much better off with sudo, or a tiny C wrapper that's so simple > it's hard to get wrong.  However, perl's taint feature would be useful This snippet is about as tiny as it gets in C I think: #include int main (int argc, char ** argv) { int err; char *newenv[] = { NULL }; if ((err =

Re: Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Alexander Kapps wrote: > On 17.02.2011 01:00, GSO wrote: >> Having said that I'm possibly arriving at the conclusion that a quick >> perl script might be the simplest/easiest and most secure option - I >> read perl includes code to safely run suid perl scripts - wi

Re: Method chaining on decorator got SyntaxError

2011-02-16 Thread Makoto Kuwata
Thank you MRAB, On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:49 AM, MRAB wrote: > You may want to read the discussion at: > > https://groups.google.com/group/python-ideas/browse_thread/thread/1eebf486969c39a1/?hl=en > -- I can't figure out what is the point or conclusion of that discussion. Is there any technical

Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread GSO
Apols for being a nuisance.  I'm normally if anything a web programmer. It looks like there are set-id functions in the os module.  Further I don't actually need root privileges, just write access to a directory that a user ordinarily does not have write access to (and preferably not read).  So a

Re: How to handle sockets - easily?

2011-02-16 Thread Jean-Paul Calderone
On Feb 16, 1:59 pm, William Ahern wrote: > Bubba wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > import asyncore > > import socket > > import string > > import MySQLdb > > import sys > > >     def __init__(self, host, port): > >         asyncore.dispatcher.__init__(self) > >         self.create_socket(socket.

Re: Python Newbie needs some context

2011-02-16 Thread Fred Marshall
On 2/16/2011 11:45 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: Thanks for the advice! Is it the intent to generate code with wxGlade and then rather "import" that code into an Eclipse project context? Or, should one expect to be able to create hooks (e.g. for Tools) in Eclipse that will do that? If so, how? Tha

Re: Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread Alexander Kapps
On 17.02.2011 01:00, GSO wrote: OK, thanks for the tips. gksu* does not seem to be included with RHEL6 Desktop (though there is a package called beesu) On RHEL try consolehelper/userhelper instead which need additional configuration. The philosophy at the end of the day I think is do your

Re: How to use Python well?

2011-02-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:12:52 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Terry Reedy writes: > >> The most import thing is automated tests. > > Steven D'Aprano writes: > >> The most important thing is structured programming and modularization. > > > Steel-cage death match. FIGHT! To the death? No, to the p

Re: Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread GSO
OK, thanks for the tips. gksu* does not seem to be included with RHEL6 Desktop (though there is a package called beesu), and besides which it appears gksu is deprecated[1]. Either way c wrapper or sudo approach it is a tactical decision, and the former is probably a better option with the problem

Re: Method chaining on decorator got SyntaxError

2011-02-16 Thread MRAB
On 16/02/2011 23:25, Makoto Kuwata wrote: Hi, I have a question about decorator. I tried the following example and got Syntax Error. class deco(object): def __init__(self, name): self._name = name def foo(self, value): self._foo = value

Re: Problem with giant font sizes in tkinter

2011-02-16 Thread Rhodri James
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 07:06:35 -, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 23:42:06 +, Rhodri James wrote: On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 02:08:01 -, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:48:47 +, Cousin Stanley wrote: Steven D'Aprano wrote: I have a tkinter application

Method chaining on decorator got SyntaxError

2011-02-16 Thread Makoto Kuwata
Hi, I have a question about decorator. I tried the following example and got Syntax Error. class deco(object): def __init__(self, name): self._name = name def foo(self, value): self._foo = value return self def __call__(self, func):

Re: How to use Python well?

2011-02-16 Thread Roy Smith
In article , snorble wrote: > I use Python a lot, but not well. I usually start by writing a small > script, no classes or modules. One anti-pattern that I see in my own code is starting out thinking, "this is just a little script, I doesn't need any real structure". That almost always turn

Re: How to use Python well?

2011-02-16 Thread Ben Finney
Terry Reedy writes: > The most import thing is automated tests. Steven D'Aprano writes: > The most important thing is structured programming and modularization. Steel-cage death match. FIGHT! -- \ “[W]e are still the first generation of users, and for all that | `\ we may have

Re: How to use Python well?

2011-02-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:35:28 -0800, snorble wrote: > I use Python a lot, but not well. I usually start by writing a small > script, no classes or modules. Then I add more content to the loops, and > repeat. It's a bit of a trial and error learning phase, making sure I'm > using the third party mod

Please post Chuck Missler Bible audio/video

2011-02-16 Thread Keith Anthony
Anything from Chuck Missler . I've lost my collection. Thanks. -- - --- -- - Posted with NewsLeecher v4.0 Final Web @ http://www.newsleecher.com/?usenet --- - -- - -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 2/16/2011 1:26 PM GSO said... I'm sure this question is as old as time, but what is the best way to gain root privileges? (Am using Python 2.6.5, pygtk2 v2.16, Gtk v2.18.9, on RHEL6.) have root's password? Emile -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread Alexander Kapps
On 16.02.2011 23:02, Ian Kelly wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Mahoney wrote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:26:26 +, GSO wrote: I'm sure this question is as old as time, but what is the best way to gain root privileges? (Am using Python 2.6.5, pygtk2 v2.16, Gtk v2.18.9, on RHEL6.

Re: How to use Python well?

2011-02-16 Thread Terry Reedy
On 2/16/2011 1:35 PM, snorble wrote: I use Python a lot, but not well. I usually start by writing a small script, no classes or modules. Then I add more content to the loops, and repeat. It's a bit of a trial and error learning phase, making sure I'm using the third party modules correctly, and s

Re: [newbie/2.5.1.1] Computing value of a word?

2011-02-16 Thread Chris Colbert
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:27 AM, Chris Rebert wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Gilles Ganault wrote: > > Hello, > > > > For a game, I need to go through a wordlist, and for each word, > > compute its value, ie. a=1, b=2, etc. > > > > So for instance, NewYork = 14 + 5 + 23 + 25 + 15 + 18

Re: Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread Alister Ware
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:26:26 +, GSO wrote: > I'm sure this question is as old as time, but what is the best way to > gain root privileges? (Am using Python 2.6.5, pygtk2 v2.16, Gtk > v2.18.9, on RHEL6.) > > Ta, > > > G. > > gmotion > PyGTK desktop GUI for Motion (software motion detector)

Problems of Symbol Congestion in Computer Languages

2011-02-16 Thread Xah Lee
might be interesting. 〈Problems of Symbol Congestion in Computer Languages (ASCII Jam; Unicode; Fortress)〉 http://xahlee.org/comp/comp_lang_unicode.html -- Problems of Symbol Congestion in Computer Languages (ASCII Jam; Unicode; Fortress) Xah Lee,

Re: How to use Python well?

2011-02-16 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:35 AM, snorble wrote: > I use Python a lot, but not well. I usually start by writing a small > script, no classes or modules. Then I add more content to the loops, > and repeat. It's a bit of a trial and error learning phase, making > sure I'm using the third party modul

Re: Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Mahoney wrote: > On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:26:26 +, GSO wrote: > >> I'm sure this question is as old as time, but what is the best way to >> gain root privileges?  (Am using Python 2.6.5, pygtk2 v2.16, Gtk >> v2.18.9, on RHEL6.) > > Gain root privileges for

Re: Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:29:53 -0600, Daniel Mahoney wrote: > On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:26:26 +, GSO wrote: > >> I'm sure this question is as old as time, but what is the best way to >> gain root privileges? (Am using Python 2.6.5, pygtk2 v2.16, Gtk >> v2.18.9, on RHEL6.) > > Gain root privilege

Re: unicode shutil.copy() changes a file name during copy?

2011-02-16 Thread dave
thanks to your hint about drive format, i contacted MacDrive and they confirmed it was an incorrect setting, i have since fixed the setting and all is working! not a python bug! thanks for the replies. -dave -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Editor/IDE with Python coverage support?

2011-02-16 Thread Dan Stromberg
I use vim, but I've considered switching to pycharm. I don't know if pycharm does this or not. Anyway, coverage.py will produce an HTML report describing how well your automated tests cover your code - I like to add it into my Makefile's default rule, and then view the HTML once in a while using

Re: Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread Daniel Mahoney
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:26:26 +, GSO wrote: > I'm sure this question is as old as time, but what is the best way to > gain root privileges? (Am using Python 2.6.5, pygtk2 v2.16, Gtk > v2.18.9, on RHEL6.) Gain root privileges for a script? Write a c wrapper to call the script, chown it (the w

Best way to gain root privileges

2011-02-16 Thread GSO
I'm sure this question is as old as time, but what is the best way to gain root privileges? (Am using Python 2.6.5, pygtk2 v2.16, Gtk v2.18.9, on RHEL6.) Ta, G. gmotion PyGTK desktop GUI for Motion (software motion detector) http://code.google.com/p/gmotion/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/

Re: unicode shutil.copy() changes a file name during copy?

2011-02-16 Thread dave
ah! an interesting point! hmm yes when i'm running parallels, both the source and destination are sortof "Network Drive"'s, they're actually my native mac drives (file system reported as "PrlSF"). In this situation all works well. the reported getfilesystemencoding() is 'mbcs' which is a convenie

interfacing python with emacs

2011-02-16 Thread Andrea Crotti
I decided that I finally want to get auto-completion and other really cool things for my python/emacs environment. Rope also looks really great and being able to refactor easily would really be a dream :) (no more excuses from java developers then) http://rope.sourceforge.net/ Pymacs is already

Re: unicode shutil.copy() changes a file name during copy?

2011-02-16 Thread dave
ah! an interesting point! hmm yes when i'm running parallels, both the source and destination are sortof "Network Drive"'s, they're actually my native mac drives (file system reported as "PrlSF"). In this situation all works well. the reported getfilesystemencoding() is 'mbcs' which is a convenie

Another MySQLdb Q

2011-02-16 Thread Victor Subervi
Hi; I have this code: db = MySQLdb.connect(host, user, passwd, db) cursor= db.cursor() cursor.execute(sql, id) db.commit() It throws no errors and gives every indication that it executes the command. I've printed out the command and the id and executed it successfully in mysql...but not in

Re: Python Newbie needs some context

2011-02-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-02-16, Fred Marshall wrote: > I can already program in a few languages That should make things easy. > (but not C++) That should help even more > and, since Python comes to highly recommended, I figured to venture > into it. > > I'm used to using an IDE. > > So, after some web browsi

Re: logging module -- better timestamp accuracy on Windows

2011-02-16 Thread Brian Curtin
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:23, benhoyt wrote: > > > AFAIK, the Windows performance counter has long-term accuracy issues, > > so neither is perfect. Preferably we should have a timer with the long- > > term accuracy of time.time and the short-term accuracy of time.clock. > > Thanks for the tip --

Editor/IDE with Python coverage support?

2011-02-16 Thread Matt Chaput
Are there any editors/IDEs with good support for line-coloring from Python test coverage results? (I normally use Eclipse + PyDev but PyDev's current coverage support isn't much better than nothing.) Thanks, Matt -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How to handle sockets - easily?

2011-02-16 Thread Bubba
William Ahern's log on stardate 16 vlj 2011 /snip > I think that there's an asynchronous all-Python MySQL library, but > I'm not sure. Maybe one day I can open source my asynchronous MySQL C > library. (I always recommend people to use PostgreSQL, though; which > is superior in almost every way,

Python Newbie needs some context

2011-02-16 Thread Fred Marshall
I can already program in a few languages (but not C++) and, since Python comes to highly recommended, I figured to venture into it. I'm used to using an IDE. So, after some web browsing and reading, I did the following: Installed Python Installed EasyEclipse Installed wxPython Installed wxGlad

Re: unicode shutil.copy() changes a file name during copy?

2011-02-16 Thread Jerry Hill
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:28 PM, dave wrote: > figure it out.  it's very easy to test it yourself, just make a file > with the section symbol in it, then try to copy it with python 2.7.1 This works fine for me on Windows XP and python 2.6.4 on an NTFS formatted drive. Are either your source or d

Re: How to use Python well?

2011-02-16 Thread Kurt Smith
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:35 PM, snorble wrote: > I use Python a lot, but not well. I usually start by writing a small > script, no classes or modules. Then I add more content to the loops, > and repeat. It's a bit of a trial and error learning phase, making > sure I'm using the third party modul

Re: How to handle sockets - easily?

2011-02-16 Thread William Ahern
Bubba wrote: > import asyncore > import socket > import string > import MySQLdb > import sys > def __init__(self, host, port): > asyncore.dispatcher.__init__(self) > self.create_socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_STREAM) > self.set_reuse_addr() > self.bind((ho

How to use Python well?

2011-02-16 Thread snorble
I use Python a lot, but not well. I usually start by writing a small script, no classes or modules. Then I add more content to the loops, and repeat. It's a bit of a trial and error learning phase, making sure I'm using the third party modules correctly, and so on. I end up with a working script, b

Re: logging module -- better timestamp accuracy on Windows

2011-02-16 Thread benhoyt
> For example, are you assuming that your clock() call in logging is > the very first call made? Yes, we were making that assumption (the time.clock() call in the import of our log module), which was true in our code, but I can see where it's not a good thing to assume generally. > Also, IIUC

Re: unicode shutil.copy() changes a file name during copy?

2011-02-16 Thread dave
i don't see an "active python 3.2" i see "3.1" and "Many 3rd-party modules and extensions that you may depend upon may not yet be available for Python 3. As a result you may want to continue to use Python 2 for the time being". and i depend on some 3rd party modules. no i really think it's someth

Re: logging module -- better timestamp accuracy on Windows

2011-02-16 Thread benhoyt
> AFAIK, the Windows performance counter has long-term accuracy issues, > so neither is perfect. Preferably we should have a timer with the long- > term accuracy of time.time and the short-term accuracy of time.clock. Thanks for the tip -- yes, I hadn't thought about that, but you're right, Quer

Re: How to handle sockets - easily?

2011-02-16 Thread Bubba
Richard Kettlewell's log on stardate 10 vlj 2011 > Rewrites can help but they can also go badly wrong. Rewriting into a > language you don't yet know seems especially likely to fall into the > latter category! Indeed. However, it seems to be quite "doable", as it took me from 0 knowledge of Pyt

Re: unicode shutil.copy() changes a file name during copy?

2011-02-16 Thread Terry Reedy
On 2/15/2011 11:50 PM, dave wrote: i'm on windows, using active python 2.7.1 i've written a script to copy a folder of files to dest folder.. one if the files in this folder has the section symbol (§, '\x15') as part of the file name shutil.copy(src_file, dst_file) "can't find the file specifie

OT: Need Interactivity With the Browser

2011-02-16 Thread Victor Subervi
Hi; I would like to build a component where the user can go to a page, say he'd like to upload so many ("x") number of photos, click a button and without leaving the page have three sets of upload widgets pop up. I think this is done with Json; however, I can't find much info or tutorials on the sa

Re: logging module -- better timestamp accuracy on Windows

2011-02-16 Thread Brian Curtin
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 09:34, sturlamolden wrote: > On 16 Feb, 15:30, benhoyt wrote: > > > It seems to me that the logging module should use a millisecond-accurate > timestamp (time.clock) on Windows, just like the "timeit" module does. > > AFAIK, the Windows performance counter has long-term a

Re: Is this a bug of str.join?

2011-02-16 Thread Terry Reedy
On 2/16/2011 1:32 AM, fireinice wrote: On Feb 16, 1:24 am, fireinice wrote: Hi, all I'm just working around to generate some fake file for parsing. and I notice some weired thing happen. time = str(random.randint(1000, )) s_id = str(random.randint(1

Re: logging module -- better timestamp accuracy on Windows

2011-02-16 Thread sturlamolden
On 16 Feb, 15:30, benhoyt wrote: > It seems to me that the logging module should use a millisecond-accurate > timestamp (time.clock) on Windows, just like the "timeit" module does. AFAIK, the Windows performance counter has long-term accuracy issues, so neither is perfect. Preferably we should

Re: logging module -- better timestamp accuracy on Windows

2011-02-16 Thread Vinay Sajip
On Feb 16, 2:30 pm, benhoyt wrote: > It seems to me that the logging module should use a millisecond-accurate > timestamp (time.clock) on Windows, > just like the "timeit" module does. It's not an unreasonable request, though I don't think logging should be used to time things accurately. I'm a

Re: logging module -- better timestamp accuracy on Windows

2011-02-16 Thread benhoyt
> A simpler solution would be to caclulate the time it takes to the handle > the request using time.clock() and include it in the log message. > Something like: Thanks, Ross. Actually, we are doing exactly that already -- it's how we noticed the timestamp issue in the first place. However, that

Re: Another related OO Python ?

2011-02-16 Thread Eric Brunel
In article <6849fd3f-5116-4b35-b274-dc76ae39f...@a11g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, RJB wrote: > On Feb 16, 12:48 am, Eric Brunel > wrote: > > In article , > >  Doug Epling wrote: > > > > > hey, does anyone find the UML useful during Python development of larger > > > projects? > > > > Well, UML

70% [* SPAM *] Re: shelve trying to import bsddb

2011-02-16 Thread DPalao
El Wednesday February 16 2011, DPalao escribió: > Dear all, > I'm trying to use shelve to store some data, but sheve itself tries to > import > > bsddb, which results in: > > File "/usr/lib64/python2.6/shelve.py", line 239, in open > > > > return DbfilenameShelf(filename, flag, protocol,

Re: Map vs. List Comprehensions (was "lint warnings")

2011-02-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:55:50 -0500, Gerald Britton wrote: > So, what's the feeling out there? Go with map and the operators or > stick with the list comps? Stick to whatever feels and reads better at the time. Unless you have profiled your code, and determined that the map or list comp was the

Archiving Modules

2011-02-16 Thread peter
I am writing a small Tkinter utility to control archive files in multiple formats (mainly for my own amusement and education). Basically it presents the user with two adjacent listboxes, one with the contents of the target directory and one with the contents of the archive. By clicking buttons labe

Re: Another related OO Python ?

2011-02-16 Thread RJB
On Feb 16, 12:48 am, Eric Brunel wrote: > In article , >  Doug Epling wrote: > > > hey, does anyone find the UML useful during Python development of larger > > projects? > > Well, UML being very Java/C++ oriented, I found out that Python idioms > were really difficult to represent in the diagrams

Re: interleave string

2011-02-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:39:30 -0800, alex23 wrote: > Andrea Crotti wrote: >> At the moment I have this ugly inliner >>         interleaved = ':'.join(orig[x:x+2] for x in range(0, >>         len(orig), 2)) > > I actually prefer this over every other solution to date. Agreed. To me, it's the simp

70% [* SPAM *] shelve trying to import bsddb

2011-02-16 Thread DPalao
Dear all, I'm trying to use shelve to store some data, but sheve itself tries to import bsddb, which results in: > File "/usr/lib64/python2.6/shelve.py", line 239, in open > return DbfilenameShelf(filename, flag, protocol, writeback) > File "/usr/lib64/python2.6/shelve.py", line 223, in _

Re: return an object of a different class

2011-02-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:17:13 -0700, spam wrote: > I didn't explain my problem, chose a terrible example. This is more what > I'm trying to do: [snip "thingy" class] No, your first example was better. This one is terrible -- it's so generic it's meaningless. In any case, you don't explain why

Re: return an object of a different class

2011-02-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:23:39 -0700, spam wrote: > How can I do something like this in python: > > #!/usr/bin/python3.1 > > class MyNumbers: >def __init__(self, n): > self.original_value = n > if n <= 100: >self = SmallNumers(self) > else: >self = BigNumbers(sel

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Re: Displaying SVG in tkinter using cairo and rsvg

2011-02-16 Thread Arndt Roger Schneider
Martin P. Hellwig schrieb: On 02/16/11 09:04, Arndt Roger Schneider wrote: [snip] tkpath does not seem to come standard with Python's tk version when I looked into it a couple of years ago, but maybe it has now? tk canvas and tkpath share the same interface, the first tkpath was a plugin i

Re: Displaying SVG in tkinter using cairo and rsvg

2011-02-16 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
On 02/16/11 09:04, Arndt Roger Schneider wrote: raster images from SVG: There are multiple methods to convert a scalable vector graphic into a bitmap. In addition to cairo, librsvg and rsvg imageMagick contains a vector graphic format similar to svg--gradients and transparency are problematic fo

[ANN] New package: SpaceFuncs (2D, 3D, ND geometric modeling, optimization, solving)

2011-02-16 Thread dmitrey
Hi all, I'm glad to inform you about new, 4th OpenOpt Suite module: SpaceFuncs - a tool for 2D, 3D, N-dimensional geometric modeling with possibilities of parametrized calculations, numerical optimization and solving systems of geometrical equations. For details see its home page http://openopt.o

Re: [newbie/2.5.1.1] Computing value of a word?

2011-02-16 Thread Chris Rebert
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Gilles Ganault wrote: > Hello, > > For a game, I need to go through a wordlist, and for each word, > compute its value, ie. a=1, b=2, etc. > > So for instance, NewYork = 14 + 5 + 23 + 25 + 15 + 18 + 11 = 111. > > Before I write the obvious While loop to go through

[newbie/2.5.1.1] Computing value of a word?

2011-02-16 Thread Gilles Ganault
Hello, For a game, I need to go through a wordlist, and for each word, compute its value, ie. a=1, b=2, etc. So for instance, NewYork = 14 + 5 + 23 + 25 + 15 + 18 + 11 = 111. Before I write the obvious While loop to go through each line in the input text file, I was wondering if Python didn't al

Re: return an object of a different class

2011-02-16 Thread Karim
On 02/16/2011 06:05 AM, Richard Thomas wrote: On Feb 16, 2:23 am, s...@uce.gov wrote: How can I do something like this in python: #!/usr/bin/python3.1 class MyNumbers: def __init__(self, n): self.original_value = n if n<= 100: self = SmallNumers(self) else:

Re: Displaying SVG in tkinter using cairo and rsvg

2011-02-16 Thread Arndt Roger Schneider
Martin P. Hellwig schrieb: Hi all, Information on using tkinter for displaying an svg image seems a bit low spread on the Internet. I recently played around with pygame and svg and realized, hold on this can be done with tk too. So I thought I post a little example for future generations :-)

Re: How does IDLE do it?

2011-02-16 Thread Eric Brunel
In article , "Richard D. Moores" wrote: > I recently wrote some code that prints information about the 'jukugo' > used in Japanese newspaper articles. A jukugo is a Japanese word > written with at least 2 kanji. An example of a 2-kanji jukugo is 危機 > (kiki -- crisis). I found that I could no

Re: Another related OO Python ?

2011-02-16 Thread Eric Brunel
In article , Doug Epling wrote: > hey, does anyone find the UML useful during Python development of larger > projects? Well, UML being very Java/C++ oriented, I found out that Python idioms were really difficult to represent in the diagrams. So I'm using it to a very small extent and for doc