On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:36:41 +0200, candide wrote:
Le 28/10/2011 00:57, Hrvoje Niksic a écrit :
was used at class definition time to suppress it. Built-in and
extension types can choose whether to implement __dict__.
Is it possible in the CPython implementation to write something like
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:05:13 -0700, Fletcher Johnson wrote:
If I create a new Unicode object u'\x82\xb1\x82\xea\x82\xcd' how does
this creation process interpret the bytes in the byte string?
It doesn't, because there is no byte-string. You have created a Unicode
object from a literal string
I started a wiki page
here:
http://code.google.com/p/pynguin/wiki/InstallingPynguinOnWindows
but I can't even test if it actually
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:09:34 -0700, Patrick Maupin wrote:
On Oct 27, 5:31 pm, Steven D'Aprano steve
+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
From the outside, you can't tell how big a generator expression is. It
has no length:
I understand that.
Since the array object has no way of
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:00:57 -0700, DevPlayer wrote:
def isvalid_named_reference( astring ):
# varible name is really a named_reference
# import string # would be cleaner
I don't understand the comment about variable name.
valid_first_char =
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:52:40 +0200, candide wrote:
Le 28/10/2011 00:19, Steven D'Aprano a écrit :
What, you think it goes against the laws of physics that nobody thought
to mention it in the docs?wink
No but I'm expecting from Python documentation to mention the laws of
Python ...
You
On 10/28/2011 3:21 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
If the slice has too few elements, you've just blown away the entire
iterator for no good reason.
If the slice is the right length, but the iterator doesn't next raise
StopIteration, you've just thrown away one perfectly good value. Hope it
On 27/10/2011 20:53, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 10/27/2011 6:36 AM, Tim Golden wrote:
On 27/10/2011 11:27, Propad wrote:
the suggestion to add the optional second parameter fixed the problem,
spawnl now works on the Win 7 computer I'm responsible for (with
Python 2.2). So the suggested cause seems
candide candide@free.invalid writes:
Le 28/10/2011 00:57, Hrvoje Niksic a écrit :
was used at class definition time to suppress it. Built-in and
extension types can choose whether to implement __dict__.
Is it possible in the CPython implementation to write something like this :
foo.bar
Le 28/10/2011 10:43, ll.snark a écrit :
On 27 oct, 17:06, Laurent Claessensmoky.m...@gmail.com wrote:
J'aimerais donc pouvoir indiquer dans fonca, que la variable lst est
celle définie dans fonc1.
Je ne veux pas d'une variable locale à fonca, ni une variable globale
à tout mon
Le 28/10/2011 05:02, Patrick Maupin a écrit :
You can easily do that by subclassing a string:
class AnnotatedStr(str):
pass
x = AnnotatedStr('Node1')
x.title = 'Title for node 1'
Less or more what I did. But requires to transport the string graph
structure to the AnnotatedStr one.
Le 28/10/2011 10:01, Steven D'Aprano a écrit :
didn't think of it. This is hardly a surprise. Wanting to add arbitrary
attributes to built-ins is not exactly an everyday occurrence.
Depends. Experimented programmers don't even think of it. But less
advanced programmers can consider of it.
Le 28/10/2011 11:08, Hrvoje Niksic a écrit :
longer be allowed for the interpreter to transparently cache them. The
same goes for integers and other immutable built-in objects.
On the other hand, immutability and optimization don't explain the whole
thing because you can't do something
Woops. This was aimed to the french speaking python's usenet. Sorry.
Laurent
Le 28/10/2011 11:29, Laurent a écrit :
Le 28/10/2011 10:43, ll.snark a écrit :
On 27 oct, 17:06, Laurent Claessensmoky.m...@gmail.com wrote:
J'aimerais donc pouvoir indiquer dans fonca, que la variable lst
Am 28.10.2011 10:01, schrieb Steven D'Aprano:
hasattr(int, '__dict__') # Does the int class/type have a __dict__?
True
hasattr(42, '__dict__') # Does the int instance have a __dict__?
False
Also __dict__ doesn't have to be an instance of __dict__. Builtin types
usually have a dictproxy
Héllo,
There was a thread recently about the missed opportunity for Python to be a
language that could replace Javascript in the browser.
They are several attempts at doing something in this spirit here are the
ones I'm aware of:
- pyjamas aka. pyjs it is to Python what GWT is to Java :
I believe that python maybe had missed an opportunity to get in early and be
able to take over a large market share from javascript. But that doesn't
mean python is dead in the browser, it just means it will have more
competition if it wants to replace javascript for Rich Internet
Applications.
Find a new release of python-ldap:
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-ldap/2.4.4
python-ldap provides an object-oriented API to access LDAP directory
servers from Python programs. It mainly wraps the OpenLDAP 2.x libs for
that purpose. Additionally it contains modules for other LDAP-related
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:52:40 +0200, candide candide@free.invalid wrote:
[snip]
hasattr(42, '__dict__')
False
[snip]
Let'have a try :
hasattr(43, '__dict__')
False
so we have proved by induction that no integer instance has a
dictionnary attribute ;)
You left out an important step in
Hi,
I'm tryed to write my first application using SqlAlchemy. I'm using
declarative style. I need to get the attributes of the columns of my
table. This is an example of my very simple model-class:
class Country(base):
__tablename__ = bookings_countries
id =
Just a random note, I actually set about the task of re-implementing a
json encoder which can be subclassed, is highly extensible, and uses
(mostly) sane coding techniques (those of you who've looked at
simplejson's code will know why this is a good thing). So far
preliminary tests show the json
Python 2.7.2
I'm having trouble in a situation where I need to mix-in the
functionality of __getattr__ after the object has already been
created. Here is a small sample script of the situation:
=snip
import types
class Cow(object):
pass
# this __getattr__ works as advertised.
On Oct 27, 10:23 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
I do not think everyone else should suffer substantial increase in space
and run time to avoid surprising you.
What substantial increase? There's already a check that winds up
raising an exception. Just make it empty an iterator
I'm trying to generate a list of values where each value is dependent
on the previous value in the list and this bit of code needs to be
repeatedly so I'd like it to be fast. It doesn't seem that
comprehensions will work as each pass needs to take the result of the
previous pass as it's argument.
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:34 PM, dhyams dhy...@gmail.com wrote:
If I call __getattr__ directly, as in bessie.__getattr__('foo'), it
works as it should obviously; so the method is bound and ready to be
called. But Python does not seem to want to call __getattr__
appropriately if I mix it in
dhyams wrote:
Python 2.7.2
I'm having trouble in a situation where I need to mix-in the
functionality of __getattr__ after the object has already been
created. Here is a small sample script of the situation:
=snip
import types
class Cow(object):
pass
# this __getattr__ works
On 10/28/2011 2:05 PM, Patrick Maupin wrote:
On Oct 27, 10:23 pm, Terry Reedytjre...@udel.edu wrote:
I do not think everyone else should suffer substantial increase in space
and run time to avoid surprising you.
What substantial increase?
of time and space, as I said, for the temporary
On 10/28/2011 2:10 PM, Michael McGlothlin wrote:
I'm trying to generate a list of values
Better to think of a sequence of values, whether materialized as a
'list' or not.
where each value is dependent
on the previous value in the list and this bit of code needs to be
repeatedly so I'd like
Hi,
I would like to save many dicts with a fixed amount of keys
tuples to a file in a memory efficient manner (no random, but only
sequential access is required)
As the keys are the same for each entry I considered converting them to
tuples.
The tuples contain only strings, ints (long ints)
On 10/28/2011 1:20 PM, Nathan Rice wrote:
Just a random note, I actually set about the task of re-implementing a
json encoder which can be subclassed, is highly extensible, and uses
(mostly) sane coding techniques (those of you who've looked at
simplejson's code will know why this is a good
On Oct 28, 3:19 am, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 10/28/2011 3:21 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
If the slice has too few elements, you've just blown away the entire
iterator for no good reason.
If the slice is the right length, but the iterator doesn't next raise
StopIteration,
I've found that in a lot of cases getting a patch submitted is only
half about good engineering. The other half is politics. I like one
of those things, I don't like the other, and I don't want to take time
out of my coding schedule to write something if in the end a reviewer
shoots down my
In article mailman.2293.1319834877.27778.python-l...@python.org,
Gelonida N gelon...@gmail.com wrote:
I would like to save many dicts with a fixed amount of keys
tuples to a file in a memory efficient manner (no random, but only
sequential access is required)
There's two possible scenarios
On Oct 28, 4:51 pm, Patrick Maupin pmau...@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 28, 3:19 am, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 10/28/2011 3:21 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
If the slice has too few elements, you've just blown away the entire
iterator for no good reason.
If the slice is the
I'm trying to generate a list of values
Better to think of a sequence of values, whether materialized as a 'list' or
not.
The final value will actually be a string but it seems it is usually
faster to join a list of strings than to concat them one by one.
where each value is dependent
on
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:47:42 +0200, Gelonida N wrote:
Hi,
I would like to save many dicts with a fixed amount of keys tuples to a
file in a memory efficient manner (no random, but only sequential
access is required)
What do you call many? Fifty? A thousand? A thousand million? How many
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:27:37 -0700, Patrick Maupin wrote:
And, BTW, the example you give of, e.g.
a,b,c = (some generator expression)
ALREADY LOSES DATA if the iterator isn't the right size and it raises an
exception.
Yes. What's your point? This fact doesn't support your proposal in the
On 10/27/2011 5:36 PM, Lee Harr wrote:
What message do you get when trying to download?
It said something like You're trying to download from a forbidden
country. That's all we know. Anyway, I was able to get the files.
Once everything is set up, it seems to work. I haven't done any serious
On Oct 28, 8:01 pm, Steven D'Aprano ALREADY LOSES DATA if the
iterator isn't the right size and it raises an
exception.
Yes. What's your point? This fact doesn't support your proposal in the
slightest.
You earlier made the argument that If the slice has too few elements,
you've just blown
On 10/29/2011 05:20 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Python only looks up __xxx__ methods in new-style classes on the class
itself, not on the instances.
So this works:
8
class Cow(object):
pass
def attrgetter(self, a):
print CAUGHT:
On 10/28/2011 8:49 PM, Michael McGlothlin wrote:
Better to think of a sequence of values, whether materialized as a 'list' or
not.
The final value will actually be a string but it seems it is usually
faster to join a list of strings than to concat them one by one.
.join() takes an iterable
En Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:10:14 -0300, Michael McGlothlin
micha...@plumbersstock.com escribió:
I'm trying to generate a list of values where each value is dependent
on the previous value in the list and this bit of code needs to be
repeatedly so I'd like it to be fast. It doesn't seem that
Charles-François Natali neolo...@free.fr added the comment:
Did you try with the current branches?
Yes, the test is pass against the current default and 2.7 branches.
One must remove EPIPE from the asyncore._DISCONNECTED frozenset to
make the test to fail.
OK. Then I'll add this test to
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./python -m test -v -u all test_ssl pass with issue13218.diff or
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I would be nice to have a third path for inegality with kind1==kind2, something
like:
else if (kind1 == PyUnicode_2BYTE_KIND kind2 == PyUnicode_2BYTE_KIND)
{
/* use Py_UCS2* pointers */
}
else if (kind1 == PyUnicode_4BYTE_KIND
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These 3 minor optimizations can make unicode_compare faster.
Can you please try to write a short benchmark script? (or just run a benchmark
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the typeclass change reflects the current output on 3.x
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Hello Antoine
Unloading would not be necessary if the DLL is just the python interpreter,
but if you build a DLL with python embedded that does quite a bit more than
some python interpreting (in my case complex C/C++ numerical calculations)
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New changeset 54abca0ab03b by Florent Xicluna in branch '3.2':
Fixes #13270: obsolete reference to old-style/new-style classes.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/54abca0ab03b
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New changeset 3e72de3c8ad5 by Ezio Melotti in branch '2.7':
#13278: fix typo.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/3e72de3c8ad5
New changeset 9c4b62f67a28 by Ezio Melotti in branch '3.2':
#13278: fix typo.
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Florent Xicluna florent.xicl...@gmail.com added the comment:
After changeset c72063032a7a I get this complain:
Python/bltinmodule.c: In function ‘builtin___build_class__’:
Python/bltinmodule.c:43: warning: unused variable ‘nbases’
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the table of contents in python documentation epub file is very very long. it
takes several long minutes to jump from first page to a part containing
language reference toc.
imho it would be great if first page of epub file contained pointers
New submission from Nicolas Évrard ni...@no-log.org:
While using pyflake on some of my file I noticed in a copied version of _group
two unused variables.
The attached patch fixed that very little annoyance.
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New changeset 41d41776aa6d by Ezio Melotti in branch '3.2':
#13273: fix a bug that prevented HTMLParser to properly detect some tags when
strict=False.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/41d41776aa6d
New changeset b194117f176c by
New submission from Burak Arslan burak.ars...@arskom.com.tr:
There's an issue with email.utils.formatdate function, illustrated here:
https://gist.github.com/1321994
for reference i'm on Europe/Istanbul timezone, which is +03:00 because of DST
at the time of this writing.
I'm on stable
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Fixed, thanks a lot for the report!
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New submission from Vilya Harvey vilya.har...@gmail.com:
The signal module is oblivious to any changes to the set of installed signal
handlers which occur outside of the module. This can happen when a native
module changes a signal handler, or when the python interpreter is embedded in
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turns out timetuple was not passing timezone information. the correct way of
converting a datetime.datetime object to a correct rfc-2822 compliant date
string seems to be:
email.utils.formatdate(time.mktime(a.utctimetuple()) + 1e-6 *
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Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com added the comment:
I realised I could use the convert_field() option in the custom formatter to
choose between several interpolation quoting options:
default - str + shutil.quote_ascii_whitespace
!q - str + shlex.quote
!u - unquoted (i.e. no conversion,
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com added the comment:
Some examples:
import shutil
shutil.shell_call(du -hs {}, ../py*)
594M../py3k
579M../py3k_pristine
480M../python27
301M../python31
382M../python32
288K../python_swallowed_whole
0
shutil.shell_call(du -hs {!q}, ../py*)
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New changeset 8e57b5d8f58f by Florent Xicluna in branch '3.2':
Closes #13258: Use callable() built-in in the standard library.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/8e57b5d8f58f
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Tobias Oberstein tobias.oberst...@tavendo.de added the comment:
Is that patch supposed to be in Python 2.7.2?
If so, it doesn't work for ws:
ws://example.com/somewhere?foo=bar#dgdg
F:\scm\Autobahn\testsuite\websockets\serverspython
Python 2.7.2 (default, Jun 12 2011, 15:08:59) [MSC v.1500 32
Charles-François Natali neolo...@free.fr added the comment:
So it's impossible to reliably save and restore signal handlers through
python when they can also be changed outside the python interpreter.
signal.getsignal() or signal.signal() return the current/previous handler as a
Python
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Thank you for the great work, Python project!
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 5:36 AM, Ezio Melotti rep...@bugs.python.org wrote:
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Fixed, thanks for the report!
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Could it return an opaque wrapper object, rather than just the raw address?
Something like:
typedef struct _PyNativeSignalHandler {
PyObject_HEAD
sighandler_t handler_func;
} PyNativeSignalHandler;
where the type object doesn't expose
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Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:
[Guido]
What's holding this up?
- I haven’t updated the patch for function and module objects yet
- I need to catch up with the python-ideas discussion
- There is at least one strong argument against the idea (I’ll point it out on
the ML)
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The custom formatter idea sounds brilliant. Can you test that auto-escaping of
spaces works well with glob patterns?
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len(dir())
4
import urllib.request import *
len(dir())
88
In this list we find 14 modules:
['base64', 'collections', 'ssl', 'bisect', 'http', 're', 'email', 'socket',
'os', 'posixpath', 'hashlib', 'io', 'time', 'sys']
And many
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Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:
The remaining test
(test_command_install_data.InstallDataTestCase.test_simple_run) was
broken in r1152.
This looks like a local revision number, which has no meaning outside of one
specific repository. What is the changeset identifier? (see
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
default - str + shutil.quote_ascii_whitespace
!q - str + shlex.quote
!u - unquoted (i.e. no conversion, str.format default behaviour)
The default doesn't look very understandable to me. Why would you quote only
some characters and not all
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This is technically backward incompatible, so if we define an __all__ with most
of these names, we are officially making them public, if we leave them out,
from urllib.request import * will break for someone.
You could argue that import *
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Let's deprecate some of these (or add deprecation warnings) for
upcoming release. But, doing from xxx import * is not a recommended
way for any module, as we know that it stands to pollute the namespace
with unneccesary functions/methods. I
Brett Cannon br...@python.org added the comment:
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The remaining test
(test_command_install_data.InstallDataTestCase.test_simple_run) was
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This looks like a local revision number, which has no meaning outside of one
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Barry A. Warsaw ba...@python.org added the comment:
I can't test this on OS X 10.7 because of issue 13241 but it works fine on OS X
10.6.
I'm going to go with the first diff (i.e. the non-sense changing version). I
can't say why I favor that version but since you've both verified it works on
Florent Xicluna florent.xicl...@gmail.com added the comment:
We should only expose the names which are documented.
The modules and the objects from urllib.parse don't need to be exposed in
urllib.request.
I suggest to apply this patch on 3.3 only.
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Florent Xicluna florent.xicl...@gmail.com added the comment:
This patch looks good.
Is it relevant for minor releases 2.7.3 and 3.2.3? I cannot confirm.
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priority: normal - low
versions: +Python 3.2, Python 3.3
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Changes by Florent Xicluna florent.xicl...@gmail.com:
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stage: - needs patch
type: - behavior
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http://bugs.python.org/issue13286
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Changes by Ned Deily n...@acm.org:
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resolution: accepted - fixed
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http://bugs.python.org/issue6877
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Roundup Robot devn...@psf.upfronthosting.co.za added the comment:
New changeset 3c225f938dae by Barry Warsaw in branch '2.7':
- Issue #13218: Fix test_ssl failures on Debian/Ubuntu.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/3c225f938dae
New changeset 415e2c998e18 by Barry Warsaw in branch '3.2':
- Issue
New submission from John Nagle na...@users.sourceforge.net:
The SSL module still doesn't return much information from the
certificate. SSLSocket.getpeercert only returns a few basic items
about the certificate subject. You can't retrieve issuer information,
and you can't get the extensions
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